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    Womb environment 'makes men gay!'

    A man's sexual orientation may be determined by conditions in the womb, according to a study. Previous research had revealed the more older brothers a boy has, the more likely he is to be gay, but the reason for this phenomenon was unknown.

    But a Canadian study has shown that the effect is most likely down to biological rather than social factors.

    The research is published in the journal of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Professor Anthony Bogaert from Brock University in Ontario, Canada, studied 944 heterosexual and homosexual men with either "biological" brothers, in this case those who share the same mother, or "non-biological" brothers, that is, adopted, step or half siblings.

    These results support a prenatal origin to sexual orientation development in men Professor Anthony Bogaert

    He found the link between the number of older brothers and homosexuality only existed when the siblings shared the same mother.

    The amount of time the individual spent being raised with older brothers did not affect their sexual orientation.

    'Maternal memory'

    Writing in the journal, Professor Bogaert said: "If rearing or social factors associated with older male siblings underlies the fraternal birth-order effect [the link between the number of older brothers and male homosexuality], then the number of non-biological older brothers should predict men's sexual orientation, but they do not.

    "These results support a prenatal origin to sexual orientation development in men."

    He suggests the effect is probably the result of a "maternal memory" in the womb for male births.

    A woman's body may see a male foetus as "foreign", he says, prompting an immune reaction which may grow progressively stronger with each male child.

    The antibodies created may have effect the developing male brain.

    In an accompanying article, scientists from Michigan State University said: "These data strengthen the notion that the common denominator between biological brothers, the mother, provides a prenatal environment that fosters homosexuality in her younger sons."
    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/h...th/5120004.stm


    I've read some rubbish in my time but this one must be top of the list!

  • #2
    Hello Stogie,

    I remember someone coming out with this or something similar years ago.

    While reading it I really thought it was wind-up  -  until I clicked on the link  -  I see it is the BBC website not a spoof.

    Now if I understand this right  -  if woman only has one male child then he cannot possibly be gay......            Right........

    RR.
    Pedants rule, OK. Or more precisely, exhibit certain of the conventional trappings of leadership.

    "I love the smell of ladyboy in the morning."
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    • #3
      What i wana know is who funds these people?
      Up The Ass Of Every Successful Business Man Lies a Ladboys Thick Long Cock!

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      • #4
        (Bit Beefy @ Jul. 03 2006,03:54) What i wana know is who funds these people?  
        you and me and all other taxpayers!!!!!
        seriously pig headed,arrogant,double standard smart ass poster!

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        • #5
          (Bit Beefy @ Jul. 03 2006,03:54) What i wana know is who funds these people?  
          Liberal left-wing media!
          I'm a rough-ridin', hootin' and hollerin', ladyboy lovin' cowboy! Bang bang yer dead!!!

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          • #6
            (katoeylover @ Jul. 02 2006,18:41)
            (Bit Beefy @ Jul. 03 2006,03:54) What i wana know is who funds these people?  
            you and me and all other taxpayers!!!!!  
            There is a group out there, somewhat like fact check .org who basically check the validity of these "studies" and they state that less than 50 % are ever proven to be true. If I can find the name of the scorce, I'll pass it on.
            RM
            ain't life grand

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            • #7
              Cheers RM
              Up The Ass Of Every Successful Business Man Lies a Ladboys Thick Long Cock!

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              • #8
                (katoeylover @ Jul. 03 2006,11:41)
                (Bit Beefy @ Jul. 03 2006,03:54) What i wana know is who funds these people?  
                you and me and all other taxpayers!!!!!  
                When u think about it us in the UK How muxh tax overall do u think we pay? i mean cumon lol. Vat, National insurance, road tax, council tax, tax on savings then tax on savings.. why dont they just take half of what we earn and leave us alone
                Up The Ass Of Every Successful Business Man Lies a Ladboys Thick Long Cock!

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                • #9
                  http://www.quackwatch.org/

                  Is this the site, RandyMan?

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                  • #10
                    This report was also in new Scientist last week and these guys dont print any old bullshit.

                    Not all Science is correct but at least is not made up ad hoc. In other words Theory, test, experiment.......
                    Obviously what its pointing to is nature not nurture and that seems pretty much par for the course.

                    theories are there to be knocked down and i would think that this has been peer reviewed in any case. before we knock it lets see if it stands the test of time.

                    bad theories are usually overturned pretty quickly

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                    • #11
                      (Randyman @ Jul. 03 2006,09:18) [ they state that less than 50 % are ever proven to be true.
                      No theory can be proven to be true. Thats the idea of a theory, that it can be falsfied and proven untrue by other Scientists.

                      e.g
                      Einsteins theories arnt true, just the best explanations that we had available at the time using the scientific method.

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                      • #12
                        bad theories are usually overturned pretty quickly
                        Not always, that tinned fish one went on for years
                        When she walks, she’s like a samba
                        That swings so cool and sways so gentle

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                        • #13
                          Thats why i said "usually.

                          If this guys theory is obvious quackery, which i doubt, then it will be overturned . Of course there are bad eggs out there, like the Korean cloning guy, but thats the same anywhere in life.

                          My point is that i think the Theory mentioned is Science not "Pseudo- Science" as is suggested and so will need reasoned argument to kill it off.

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                          • #14
                            (Tomcat @ Jul. 04 2006,08:44)
                            (Randyman @ Jul. 03 2006,09:18) [ they state that less than 50 % are ever proven to be true.
                            No theory can be proven to be true. Thats the idea of a theory, that it can be falsfied and proven untrue by other Scientists.

                            e.g
                            Einsteins theories arnt true, just the best explanations that we had available at the time using the scientific method.
                            sorry, never said "theory" I said "Studies"

                            Thanks Stogie but that's not it

                            RM
                            ain't life grand

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                            • #15
                              Study- Theory
                              In this case i think its the same thing.

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