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  • #61
    WWIII

    Sooner or later one will be forced to take sides.

    If World War Three hasnt started were certainly slipping into it slowly. Most of the known oil is in the Islamic Arc that stretches from Arabia to Indonesia. Kazakastan has 15Billion tons, the Russians only have 7.5 billion tons left for example..... the West is meanwhile desperate to get influence in Kazakstan . Also How long will Kazakstan stay a Secular musilm state as well as the other so called temporal muslim countries.

    Why do you think the west is so desperate to keep the Afghans under control... because its near the oil..

    In 20 years time the Russian North will be freeziing to death while the Kazaks and the other Stans lap it up.,
    Are the Ruskys going to sit back.... no chance.....

    In 20 to fifty years time we will have little or no copper, tin, platinum , oil, etc etc. WWIII for sure in our lifetime perhaps. Solar panels are not going to save humanity.

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    • #62
      Thanks for that lighthearted look at life, Tomcat!!
      seriously pig headed,arrogant,double standard smart ass poster!

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      • #63
        yes , one has to look on the bright side.

        The Russians cant be overlooked and lets face it the Muslims are on their doorstep. It doesnt look good.

        Anyway by the time it all kicks off big time i hope to be staring out of some Cryogenic chamber on the North Pole.

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        • #64
          (Tomcat @ Jan. 26 2007,19:21) yes , one has to look on the bright side.

          The Russians cant be overlooked and lets face it the Muslims are on their doorstep. It doesnt look good.

          Anyway by the time it all kicks off big time i hope to be staring out of  some Cryogenic chamber on the North Pole.
          Not sure I want to continue in anyway shape or form after "death"!
          Robin

          You pays your money & takes your chance. This isn't a rehearsal do it now, it's no good looking back when it's a lover & wishing.... ITS TOO LATE.

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          • #65
            (Tomcat @ Jan. 26 2007,17:26) In 20 years time the Russian North will be freeziing to death while the Kazaks and the other Stans lap it up.,
            Are the Ruskys going to sit back.... no chance.....
            Read Mark Steyn's take on the Russians and their suicidal demographic demise...


            THE BEAR GOES WALKABOUT

            You gotta love these alternative theories for the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, the late €œRussian dissident€ (and there€™s a phrase one hadn€™t expected to make a comeback quite so soon). Relax, say the Kremlinologists (and there€™s another), it wasn€™t Putin who had the guy whacked. It was rogue elements within the state apparatus who gained access to supposedly secure facilities and then contaminated five international jets and dozens of joints all over London in order to pull off the world€™s first radiological assassination.

            Oh, well, that€™s okay then. Nothing to worry about.

            The late Mr Litvinenko, on the other hand, added to the story some last-minute wrinkles of his own. On his deathbed, the former KGB agent converted to Islam and asked that one day his corpse be reburied in a peaceful and independent Chechnya.

            Now what€™s that about? Well, like many in Russian political and media circles €“ including his fellow murder victim Anna Politkovskaya €“ Litvinenko had become intrigued by the 1999 Moscow apartment-house attacks that killed 300 people and provided the pretext for the Second Chechen War: Were they, in fact, a set-up intended to advance the career of Vladimir Putin? In other words, his entire presidency is founded on a lie. One can understand why a belief in such a conspiracy might destroy one€™s faith in one€™s country, and even that it might lead one to embrace Chechen separatist leaders, as Litvinenko did. But it doesn€™t entirely explain the Muslim conversion business.

            I say somewhere or other in my new book that, just as the export of Russia€™s ideology was the biggest destabilizing factor in the last century, so the implosion of that ideology could be one of the biggest in this century. That€™s to say, what€™s left of the Soviet Union has hit the apocalyptic jackpot: the Middle East has Islamists, Africa has Aids and North Korea has nukes, but only Russia has the lot €“ a disease-riddled Slav population and a fast growing Muslim population jostling atop a colossal nuclear arsenal. The Litvinenko murder is only the first of many stories in which Islam, nuclear materials and Russian decline will intersect in novel ways.

            There are ten million people in Moscow. Do you know how many of them are Muslim? Two and a half million. Or about a quarter of the population. The ethnic Russians are older; the Muslims are younger. The ethnic Russians are already in net population decline; the Muslim population in the country has increased by 40% in the last 15 years. Seven out of ten Russian pregnancies (according to some surveys) are aborted; in some Muslim communities, the fertility rate is ten babies per woman. Russian men have record rates of heart disease, liver disease, drug addiction and Aids; Muslims are the only guys in the country who aren€™t face down in the vodka.

            Faced with these trends, most experts extrapolate: thus, it€™s generally accepted that by mid-century the Russian Federation will be majority Muslim. But you don€™t really need to extrapolate when the future€™s already checking in at reception. The Toronto Star (which is Canada€™s biggest-selling newspaper and impeccably liberal) recently noted that by 2015 Muslims will make up a majority of Russia€™s army.

            Hmm. That€™ll add an interesting dimension to the Chechen campaign. Say what you like about Russia but it doesn€™t want for plot twists. It is, in that sense, a textbook example of Donald Rumsfeld€™s €œknown unknowns€: a thing we know we don€™t know. What will happen in Russia? A remorseless evolution into a majority Muslim state? Bosnian-style civil war? The secession of a dozen or so of Russia€™s 89 federal regions? A Muslim military coup? Or a panicky attempt to arrest decline by selling off your few remaining assets, including national resources to the Chinese and nukes to anyone who wants them? None of us knows, but we should know enough to know we don€™t know. The Russia of 15 years ago is already ancient history.

            Which brings me, alas, to the Iraq Study Group. This silly shallow report, of which James Baker, Lee Hamilton and the rest should be ashamed, betrays no understanding of how fast events are moving. It falls back on the usual multilateral mood music. It wants Iraq, Iran, Syria, Israel and everything else to be mediated by the transnational jet set €“ the Big Five at the UN, the EU, the Arab League. Just for starters, look at the permanent members of the Security Council: America, Britain, France, Russia, China. What€™s the old line on those fellows? The World War Two victory parade preserved in aspic? If only. By 2050, Russia will be the umpteenth Muslim nuclear power, but the first with a permanent seat on the UNSC. Or maybe the second, if France gets there first. And, judging from London literary offerings like George Walden€™s Time To Emigrate?, Britain might not be far behind. But, as I said above, forget the extrapolations: already, domestic Muslim constituencies are an important factor in the foreign policy thinking of three out of the big five. Are Baker and Hamilton even aware of that?

            As I always say, there is no €œstability€. We thought we€™d €œcontained€ Soviet Communism. Instead, the social pathologies that took hold during the Russian people€™s half-century of €œcontainment€ will have profound consequences for us and the rest of the world long after the last Commie is dead and buried.

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            • #66
              (hastings @ Jan. 23 2007,11:20) I will stay out of this rant which I find to be more than a bit racist.  
              This is a foolish statement.

              Islam transcends race. Further, Islam is a political movement that is better termed islamofascism for too many of its adherents.

              Hey, call me a bigot and ignore the threat. But please, educate yourself about what is happening in southern Thailand, Nigeria or any other country along Islam's bloody borders.

              A ladyboy sodomizer like yourself has the most to lose from Sharia law and a return to the middle ages.

              Ah, but at least you're not racist.

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              • #67
                (Tomcat @ Jan. 24 2007,20:24) Just this week a woman muslim police officer refused to shake hands with the head of the Met. police at a ceremony in the capital.

                And she is A POLICE WOMAN.....

                So just guess what the rest think. Its bad bad news.
                Mohammed is now the most common name given to babies in England now. And check this out.

                From a Christopher Hitchens essay...

                Jack Straw, now the leader of the House of Commons, made a speech in his northern English constituency in October, in which he said that he could no longer tolerate Muslim women who came to his office wearing veils. The speech catalyzed a long-postponed debate not just on the veil but on the refusal of assimilation that it symbolizes. It seems to have swung the Labour Party into a much firmer position against what I call one-way multiculturalism. Prime Minister Tony Blair confirmed the shift with a December speech emphasizing the €œduty€ of immigrants to assimilate to British values. And Martin Amis, speaking to the London Times, had this to say:

                There€™s a definite urge€”don€™t you have it?€”to say, €œThe Muslim community will have to suffer until it gets its house in order.€ What sort of suffering? Not letting them travel. Deportation€”further down the road. Curtailing of freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they€™re from the Middle East or from Pakistan. . . . Discriminatory stuff, until it hurts the whole community and they start getting tough with their children. . . . They hate us for letting our children have sex and take drugs€”well, they€™ve got to stop their children killing people.

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                • #68
                  (sangabriel @ Jan. 26 2007,21:41) it€™s generally accepted that by mid-century the Russian Federation will be majority Muslim.
                  Is that your statement or Mark Steyns. generally i agree with Steyn but that seems scary. Im not sure if the muslim republics seceded from Russia? some years ago. I know that Chechnya is still in but the others?

                  The most racist city on the planet is St Petersburg according to some reports. methinks that European Russia and the other lot may also split. The Economist had an article last week which said that Putin is trying to cleanse Moscow of non Slavs.

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                  • #69
                    (rob69in @ Jan. 26 2007,19:47) Not sure I want to continue in anyway shape or form after "death"!
                    Speak for yourself. But I doubt most care about whatever faeries, trolls or virgins you hope to meet someday in heaven.

                    Too bad an English police constable, Sharon Beshenivsky, mother of 5, cannot speak for herself anymore since being allegedly murdered by Mustaf Jamma, a Muslime immigrant, who then fled reportedly the country unimpeded by wearing a full-body women's veil.

                    Air security folks at Heathrow were too afraid to offend Muslims, despite an all-ports alert...

                    Full Story...

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                    • #70
                      (Tomcat @ Jan. 26 2007,22:02)
                      (sangabriel @ Jan. 26 2007,21:41) it€™s generally accepted that by mid-century the Russian Federation will be majority Muslim.
                      Is that your statement or Mark Steyns.  generally i agree with Steyn but that seems scary. Im not sure if the muslim republics seceded from Russia? some years ago. I know that Chechnya is still in but the others?

                      The most racist city on the planet is St Petersburg according to some  reports. methinks that European Russia and the other lot may also split. The Economist had an article last week which said that Putin is trying to cleanse Moscow of non Slavs.
                      That is Mr. Steyn's statement. But he is probably right, given the fact that Russians have the lowest birthrate in the world, die early in huge numbers and share their country with a large population of very fertile Muslims.

                      Putin may try to cleanse St. Petersburg of non-slavs, but he can't create slavs. Then someday it will be an empty, cold icebox. Unless, of course, the caliphate spreads east from the Islamic Republic of Europe...

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                      • #71
                        thanks Sangy, you are correct about the Russian population,

                        also
                        The Russians passed laws last month which means that non Russians cannot work anymore in the federation  in certain trades such as market stalls vendors etc etc.
                        non Slavic faces are questioned by police. The police are pretty rough in Moscow as well......

                        The Russians(Soviets) did try to crush the muslims before in Afghanistan but we know what happned there. At least they tried.

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                        • #72
                          For those of you Brits familiar with the controversy Jade Goody has caused with her alleged racist remarks
                          here is a statement from her

                          Jade Goody has decided to change her name and adopt the muslim faith to prove she isn't racist
                          She know wants to be known as Yaffat Fouka
                          Your got yer Mother in a whirl
                          Shes not sure if your a Boy or a Girl

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