UK politics; Enlighten me

[stogie bear]

Just a bunch of hate induced racists trying to hide under some idea of decency.

Yes... they said the same thing about the visionary Enoch Powell.

[rob69in]

(stogie bear @ May 02 2007,19:12)

Just a bunch of hate induced racists trying to hide under some idea of decency.

Yes... they said the same thing about the visionary Enoch Powell.  

I have to say I am with you on this point SB, altho whether the BNP is the solution I'm not sure. But the generally law abiding TAX paying indiginous population of the UK have been virtually turned into 2nd class citizens, & any comment you might make about it you are immediately branded a racist bigot! This goverment has been one of the absolute worst in recent history & has well & truly sold us down the river on everything.

[stogie bear]

We are not alone...

To say that the BNP are racists and bigots smacks of some of the smear tactics used by a political force who fears the BNP. Their astonishing rise in the public spotlight is obviously a reflection of their increasing popularity.

Most BNP are simply people who don't want to have forced integration thrust upon them. You don't have to hate someone or a type of person to want to live apart from them.

Global integration and social tolerance has caused more riots and racism that anything else has.

I'm all for people wearing smocks in church and spears through their noses, but not in the UK, thanks. Let's have a little dignity, eh?

What pisses me off the most is that every life lost in two world wars was a fucking waste.

Now we are a nation of criminal immigrants who see the cops and polititions in this country as an easy touch for a better life. The new Oz!

Law abiding peaceful citizens no longer have a voice in the UK. The BNP is the only 'solution!'

[Guest]

(stogie bear @ May 02 2007,20:11) Most BNP are simply people who don't want to have forced integration thrust upon them. You don't have to hate someone or a type of person to want to live apart from them.

This is the problem with Britain and other European countries... their biggest immigrant bloc, Muslims, to a large extent do not want to integrate anyway.

The Britons with the highest birthrates are the murderous Muslims bent on destroying Western civilization...

This is from a speech by Niall Ferguson called "The End of Europe":

"I want to speak this evening about what may seem a rather dramatic subject--the end of Europe, by which I don't mean its disappearance from the map, but a fundamental transformation in the political and economic institutions of the European Union.

In order to illustrate my argument, I want to take you back very far in time. In fact, I want to take you back to the year 732. In Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, in Chapter 52, Part 2, he describes what might have happened if the Muslim that had invaded across the Straits of Gibraltar and invaded Spain and then France in the year 711 had won what became known in the West as the Battle of Poitiers. So let me quote Gibbon, that much greater Oxford historian.

'A victorious line of march had been prolonged above a thousand miles from the Rock of Gibraltar to the banks of the Loire; the repetition of an equal space would have carried the Saracens to the confines of Poland and the Highlands of Scotland; the Rhine is not more impassable than the Nile or Euphrates, and the Arabian fleet might have sailed without a naval combat into the mouth of the Thames. Perhaps'--and here is the quintessential Gibbon--'perhaps the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet.' ...

"Long before the mariachis play in Harvard Yard, long before that, there will be minarets, as Gibbon foretold, in Oxford. Indeed, ladies and gentlemen, there already is one. The Center for Islamic Studies is currently building in my old university a new center for Islamic studies. I quote: 'Along the lines of a traditional Oxford college around a central cloistered quadrangle, the building will feature a prayer hall with traditional dome and minaret tower.' It will open next year. I wonder what Gibbon would have said."

[allstar88]

lets hope  los never has a far right goverment that wants non tax paying,non thai speaking farangs  kicked out?  

[stogie bear]

I'd support and respect their choices to kick out all foreigners even if it would hurt me. It's their country.

[kahuna]

From this side of the Pond... ...Mr. Blair appears to be a Bush toady...

Do you Brits preceive him that way or am I mistaken?

[Road Runner]

A cartoon appeared in one of the UK papers depicting Blair as a poodle with George Dubbya holding his leash.

RR.

[allstar88]

its like 1939 all over again!!

[Guest]

To bring things back to my original question...

So I get that he's taking a lot of heat. What I don't understand, if he's not under threat of some kind of removal (do you have impeachment over there), why would he step down?

I don't really see who it helps. Why does anyone think his turning things over to another labor party follower will help them going into the next election?

[TTChang]

(kahuna @ May 03 2007,03:43) From this side of the Pond... ...Mr. Blair appears to be a Bush toady...

Do you Brits preceive him that way or am I mistaken?

You are not mistaken, my friend  

[katoeylover]

(grunyen @ May 02 2007,22:33) To bring things back to my original question...

So I get that he's taking a lot of heat. What I don't understand, if he's not under threat of some kind of removal (do you have impeachment over there), why would he step down?

I don't really see who it helps. Why does anyone think his turning things over to another labor party follower will help them going into the next election?

He's only taking heat from his own party, who want a left-wing candidate back in No. 10, and to this end he said at last year's conference he would go this year, so now he is seen as somewhat of a lameduck.

No - he has not been impeached, but his wife has some explaining to do...

The Labour Party think that it is the party , not blair who will win the next election. Personally i think they dont have a chance without him. The personality is intoxicating, and yes he is Bush's personal poodle.

[katoeylover]

To say that the BNP are racists and bigots smacks of some of the smear tactics used by a political force who fears the BNP. Their astonishing rise in the public spotlight is obviously a reflection of their increasing popularity

They will be lucky if they win 30 council seats. Hardly an astonishing rise.

Global integration and social tolerance has caused more riots and racism that anything else has.

Apart from Religion.

Law abiding peaceful citizens no longer have a voice in the UK. The BNP is the only 'solution!'

Agree, but hope there is a better solution.

lets hope los never has a far right goverment that wants non tax paying,non thai speaking farangs kicked out?

Emigration of middle class whites from the UK is now a higher figure than immigration. HELP!

[Snick]

As a fellow yank, it looks to me like his own party turned on him, and made him promise to set a date to step down. Part of that was that his #2 guy, Gordon Brown, has been drooling over getting the top job himself for years.

( its is thought that Blair and Brown made a 'deal' years ago when Blair first ran for PM, that Brown would not oppose him but would instead become #2 and then Blair would eventually step down in favor of Brown )

[Tomcat]

The Iraq war is one of the main reasons why his own party want to disown him. I agreed with the war but never mind....i agree with all wars.

Whatever ones view on the war what it has done ,it has brought to the surface the fact that the Muslim/Pakistani population are fifth columnists and can never be trusted...The enemy within...would you want to be in a trench with one of these treacherous swine...

Just on todays news.....
The USA are right to consider visas for all UK citizens of Pakistani descent.... i totally agree.