AE ~ 18 (Kaos Bar)

[Guest]

There is some confusion here of sex and gender. Ladyboy, femboy or whatever designation we give them, their sex is male--as tampanugget said, one X, one Y, and sex never changes--even those who undergo radical SRI remain male.

Gender, however, is more malleable. It appears that many things besides the X and Y chromosomes influence gender. There is some research suggesting that transgendered individuals (whether M-F or F-M) score on psychological tests more like individuals of the sex with which they identify, than with the sex of their genetic makeup. This even applies to areas that are not easily subjected to conscious manipulation. And, when you're with a ts, you know that, they are definitely girls in their responses, reactions and thoughts.

My point, Ae is cute, sexy and developing as a pubescent female in most major characteristics besides outer genitalia. And those are fun. She's a very cute, sexy, girl, with a small, sexy cock I would love to fondle.

[Tomcat]

Stogie is 100% spot on.

Most of you homos have lost the plot im afraid. As far as i can remember Sunee Plaza has been the Mecca for Femboys and thats where the true femboys lurk.....of which Ae is a fine example.

remember the adage, " if it walks like a duck ,sounds like a duck and looks like a duck...then.....

Of course some approximation is called for but its better to be approximately right than precisely wrong.

[tampanugget_2001]

(brocklanders @ Sep. 06 2007,15:06) But tampanugget, one thing trumps your argument.  This isnt a femboy.   This is a boy or young man.  There is just a guy with some makeup and slightly longer hair.

I think you miss my point. My point is that they are all boys (femboys, ladyboys, boys with long hair). I'm not saying this is good or bad, but its just the way it is. Whether they have tits or not does not change the underlying nature of things, and my point was that it is silly for some to think they are somehow better or less gay because the ladyboys that they have sex with have tits does not make sense.

My further point is that once your engaged in this alternate lifestyle (and I include myself somewhat reluctantly in this point) that a line has been crossed and genetic girls are one the other side of that line.

[strocube]

I think you miss my point. My point is that they are all boys (femboys, ladyboys, boys with long hair). I'm not saying this is good or bad, but its just the way it is. Whether they have tits or not does not change the underlying nature of things, and my point was that it is silly for some to think they are somehow better or less gay because the ladyboys that they have sex with have tits does not make sense.

My further point is that once your engaged in this alternate lifestyle (and I include myself somewhat reluctantly in this point) that a line has been crossed and genetic girls are one the other side of that line. [I]

I agree with Mr. TN here.
We're all a bunch of pole smoking up in here.

[Tomcat]

(strocube @ Sep. 06 2007,23:48) We're all a bunch of pole smoking    up in here.  

God knows what Alfred Kinsey would have made of you lot . He would have added a few notches to the scale eh!.......

I bet hes rolling in his grave

[jonstroud]

If someone had to describe the difference between "feminine" and "effeminate" using just pictures then Ae would be the perfect definition of "effeminate".

I can see absolutely nothing feminine in the boy, and adding makeup wouldn't make the slightest difference. Perhaps when the hormones start kicking in things will change.

[brocklanders]

As I said a million times before, its a continuum.  And this one is just slightly to the right of pure boy.    There is a big difference between flat man chest and hormone tits and even more so when they get fake tits.    As much as many of you want to pontificate differently, the tits do make a difference.  Tits put the lady in ladyboy.  Doesnt need to be fake tits but hormone tits are a must.    Granted there are some femboys with incredible passable faces who look like girls when they have clothes on and thats where the confusion lies. This may have been one of those cases.  You cant necessarily tell how passable a femboy/ladyboy is with their clothes off per se.

As for strocube...not all of us are pole smokers.

[stogie bear]

And this one is just slightly to the right of pure boy...

Maybe... but I see a reference to 'pure boy' as something of a reflection of a persons masculinity and in this case you are implying that Ae is 100% masculine (if that's what 'pure boy' means to you.)

Still - as you say it's a continuum and worse (and more confusing) is that it's obviously open to a rather wide interpretation!

[katoeylover]

Anyway, whats it matter what we think if it makes you feel good?

[Tomcat]

IMO

I think once they reach 20-21 YO the word femboy has no or liitle meaning regardless of tits or no tits. Maybe we can get a LB encyclopedia going , like Wikpedia ...TransXpedia..with all the bits and pieces listed.

Where do you slot in on the Kinsey Scale . I reckon all of us homos who have airmiles with Kaos deserve an upgrade...i want a slot in the pastel section , im fed up with lingering in grey. Anyone for the pink!

[azza33]

Nice find SB...

I reckon you've found a keeper here....

In twelve months all the guys will be going how did
me miss that one... mark my words!!!

Would love to know location of Kaos bar
for the upcoming November sojourn.....

[azza33]

(daveduke007 @ Sep. 06 2007,08:21)

(stogie bear @ Sep. 05 2007,21:23)

Might as well admit it Stogie your a "poofter"

Gold Dave~~~ Pure Gold

[rxpharm]

azza33, there are a few posts about Kaos Bar and Sunee Plaza.

Here are a couple of the more useful ones:

Kaos Bar

Sunee Plaza

You may not feel comfortable in these areas as they are predominantly "gay" and just a few "femme boys" around. Also the term "femme boy" is not used in Thailand, so if you do venture into these areas, you can ask for ladyboys and be directed to the objects of your desire.

Remember the search function is your friend!

[azza33]

thanks for the heads up there

- couple of use links

-despite the issues, i gotta take a look

Always curious to find new places....

I guess the main issue for anyone to answer...

Is it safe to walk alone in these areas??
Is crime a problem or just more and issue of an unexpected ?

Thanks in advance

[Tomcat]

(azza33 @ Sep. 07 2007,22:28) Is it safe to walk alone in these areas??

I must admit walking down SoiVC sometimes give me the shivers and you prob got more chance getting rolled over around Sunee that Soi 4 Nana but the actual odds i have no clue... the area just gives me the creeps a bit...maybe its all in the mind.