YO from Cascades

[Stogie]

I told her I would not be paying her if she could not get hard for the second time...

Tough crowd!  

Must be more to it than that, right?

I heard about Yo from Ozzies source also and he's right, so be careful with her.

[Ozzie]

(Stogie @ Apr. 18 2009,10:51)

I told her I would not be paying her if she could not get hard for the second time...

Tough crowd!  

Must be more to it than that, right?

I heard about Yo from Ozzies source also and he's right, so be careful with her.

When I took her and Sai from Cascade (Who btw for Boarhogs benefit she did not seal anything except my cum) about a week earlier she could not get hard and told me it was because she was on hormones.

When I took her again for the second time on the trip I told her before going back that if she could not get hard then she would not be getting anything as the last time I had paid her the agreed amount even though she only stayed for about 30 minutes.

Maybe I am just not handsome man like Boarhog but then again after seeing his girlfriend I am not so sure about that

[Guest]

So wait a minute you took her a 2nd time knowing she couldn't get hard 1st time? then when she couldn't get hard the 2nd straight time, you wouldn't pay her? Who is stealing from who? Classy move stiffing the lb because she couldn't get stiff. Two months ago? She got rock hard for me 4 times in two nights of action? If she didn't I would have just fucked her after a sound blow job on her part and been happy. I sure the hell wouldn't have stiffed her by not paying her.

As far as Yo goes, its may be from a reliable source for you but maybe she had to steal when your source didn't pay her. I would rather take Up to Me's recent experience as a reference than hearsay from a guy who stiffs lb's based on performance. No offense, I'm just saying.

I hope my experience with taking an outside lb to guess Bar is more isolated than the norm. However its the overall attitute that people were posting about on that thread. Many sighted various reasons. Halla stated that bring outside lb was unpopular. Fiona said said only a couple of Guess girls were nice to hear and had a cold reception. I took my ex 4 times and it wasn't until the last time when she was insulted by the boss. So you can say whatever you want Ozzie, I just contributed a recent experience I had at Guess Bar April 3rd and appropriatly put it on Guess Bar in decline thread, which many others reported negative experiences.

Are you trying to help forum guys out here by these warnings or just get back at lbs?

I'll take Up to Me's reference than hear say from your unamed source who hasnt posted here on this thread. she sounds very accomadating and if she was a thief I don't think she would be such a poser just like Nina.

Nina aka Nam hardened April 11th.

[rxpharm]

These reports go to show how different experiences we can have with different ladies. One cannot guarantee the same experience with each lb that another had. It is not only a chemistry thing but also whatever the situation in her life was.

In the case of Nina - if she decided to stay off hormones for 2 months after her experience with Ozzie, she would be able to perform with Boarhog. That's not an outrageous proposition as she may have decided it was better to be functional to make sure she could make her customers happy and be paid.

In the case of Yo - perhaps she had money problems when she met Ozzie's friend and may have been tempted to be light fingered - or perhaps she was on Yabba/Ice in the past was stealing for her habit and is now clean.

Jumping on guys for warning/reports is not a good idea unless it is totally out of character with other reports about a lady. Being alert with an lb who had a bad report is a good precaution. If she turns out ok with you, then great. However, if you are alert and she tries something then a problem is hopefully averted.

[Ozzie]

(Boarhog @ Apr. 18 2009,11:17) So wait a minute you took her a 2nd time knowing she couldn't get hard 1st time? then when she couldn't get hard the 2nd straight time, you wouldn't pay her? Who is stealing from who? Classy move stiffing the lb because she couldn't get stiff. Two months ago? She got rock hard for me 4 times in two nights of action? If she didn't I would have just fucked her after a sound blow job on her part and been happy. I sure the hell wouldn't have stiffed her by not paying her.

As far as Yo goes, its may be from a reliable source for you but maybe she had to steal when your source didn't pay her. I would rather take Up to Me's recent experience as a reference than hearsay from a guy who stiffs lb's based on performance. No offense, I'm just saying.

I hope my experience with taking an outside lb to guess Bar is more isolated than the norm. However its the overall attitute that people were posting about on that thread. Many sighted various reasons.  Halla stated that bring outside lb was unpopular. Fiona said said only a couple of Guess girls were nice to hear and had a cold reception. I took my ex 4 times and it wasn't until the last time when she was insulted by the boss.  So you can say whatever you want Ozzie, I just contributed a recent experience I had at Guess Bar April 3rd and appropriatly put it on Guess Bar in decline thread, which many others reported negative experiences.  

Are you trying to help forum guys out here by these warnings or just get back at lbs?

I'll take Up to Me's reference than hear say from your unamed source who hasnt posted here on this thread. she sounds very accomadating and if she was a thief I don't think she would be such a poser just like Nina.

Nina aka Nam hardened April 11th.

Sorry I don't have as much class as you Boarhog.


Given I told her before we even went back to my hotel that she would not be getting paid if she could not perform and she insisted she could. What would you have done? I suppose you would have given her your usual 1000 baht for long time right? Yes your very classy indeed

Also why would I want to get back at a ladyboy? I am trying to do other forum members a favour by letting know to be careful when in the company of certain light fingered ladyboys.

So my friend did not pay her hey? Well lets just say he paid her a lot more than you do and he did not even have sex with her as it was for a photo shoot.

[Guest]

Given I told her before we even went back to my hotel that she would not be getting paid if she could not perform and she insisted she could. What would you have done?

Like I said I would have gladly recieved a nice blow before giving her a hard fucking. That is if i didn't have some Kamagra if the hard one is what I ultimately wanted. I assure she wasn't induced with any performance enhancers when I was with her.

I suppose you would have given her your usual 1000 baht for long time right? Yes your very classy indeed

I give what the market demands, and if i don't like it i move to the next one who may be a little more ambitious lets say. I have also put many on incentive plan of 1000 base pay with 500 baht performance incentive. Every one on that plan has recieved the bonus so the plan must be working. What i pay is none of your buisness, but will tell you I have paid Drift spunk price up to 2000 baht for lbs, it all depends on the lb and the night.

I hope you dont go with Nina a 3rd time, no telling what you might do if she doesnt get hard.

[Ozzie]

(Boarhog @ Apr. 18 2009,11:38)
Given I told her before we even went back to my hotel that she would not be getting paid if she could not perform and she insisted she could. What would you have done?

Like I said I would have gladly recieved a nice blow before giving her a hard fucking. That is if i didn't have some Kamagra if the hard one is what I ultimately wanted. I assure she wasn't induced with any performance enhancers when I was with her.

I suppose you would have given her your usual 1000 baht for long time right? Yes your very classy indeed

I give what the market demands, and if i don't like it i move to the next one who may be a little more ambitious lets say. I have also put many on incentive plan of 1000 base pay with 500 baht performance incentive.  Every one on that plan has recieved the bonus so the plan must be working. What i pay is none of your buisness, but will tell you I have paid Drift spunk price up to 2000 baht for lbs, it all depends on the lb and the night.

I hope you dont go with Nina a 3rd time, no telling what you might do if she doesnt get hard.
   

If what you pay is none of my business then why do you plaster it all over the forum?

Wow you pay up to 2000 baht the last of the big spenders

So you would have gladly received a blow job and so therefore I should have done the same right even though I did not want a blow job I wanted her to get hard?

I have been with Nina/Nam 7 or 8 times and first time was a few years back when she started in Cascade. It was only on recent occasions I have had trouble with her.

[TTChang]

I recall that Yo's 'Souvenir'* from the photoshoot is actually mentioned on her page in Ladyboy Crush

* 'Souvenir' (not sure what that is in Thai - Ozzie can tell us) is what the LBs call anything taken from a customer's room. So lock it all up.  

Glad that Uptome didn't lock up his camera.  Neither did Khun Snick ...  for this one he took in Cascades last year.

[Ozzie]

Yo sure is easy on the eye no doubt about that at all.

The souvenir if memory serves was a bottle of scotch . Don't think Boarhog will believe me though as I was not there so only second hand information.

[Guest]

(Ozzie @ Apr. 18 2009,14:39) Yo sure is easy on the eye no doubt about that at all.

The souvenir if memory serves was a bottle of scotch . Don't think Boarhog will believe me though as I was not there so only second hand information.  

Maybe I am just not handsome man like Boarhog but then again after seeing his girlfriend I am not so sure about that

I don't claim to be a handsome man Oz, and I don't know what her looks have to do with my looks. I never claimed my ex-grilfriend was a glamour, or young or most of the guys on heres type. I was with her for two years and I can assure you it wasn't for her looks alone.

The only reason I commented to you about lbs stealing is that you dropped two negative comments on a lb who I just had two great nights with. One saying she couldn't get hard which contradicted my experience with her just 2 months after you. Look how white her cum is, not consistant with hormone use.

The 2nd you labelled her as some one to watch out for stealing which also didn't see in my 2 nights and one day with her. You failed to mention that you stiffed her for payment after she told you she could get hard but couldn't.

The I see the Yo thread and your labeling another lb as a thief, and failed to say anything positive about either until youre last post about Yo being easy on the eyes.

You rip me about not being classy for paying just a 1000 baht? WTF That was price she named, and I met it in full. Even bought her one of those 130 baht colas, and a breezer down at GB2. You on the other hand refused her payment for not getting hard. I would have loved to see her looking for something a value to take while you booted her out her to the curb.

So after dissing two lbs who just had positive reports and sexy as photos I didn't view you as such a realiable critic. I'll have to dig through some old threads to see if you have any positive things to say about lbs, because I havent seen it on these two recent honeys.

Say what you want about my ex-gf, but realise a few guys on this forum found her sexy enough to be with her, and a few others have tried. I'm kind of happy you don't find her attractive, would hate to see her get stiffed by anyone. She got hard for me, but you might soften her up.



Nina's hard cock exploding white cum.

[Ozzie]

(Boarhog @ Apr. 19 2009,16:26) I don't claim to be a handsome man Oz, and I don't know what her looks have to do with my looks.  I never claimed my ex-grilfriend was a glamour, or young or most of the guys on heres type. I was with her for two years and I can assure you it wasn't for her looks alone.

The only reason I commented to you about lbs stealing is that you dropped two negative comments on a lb who I just had two great nights with. One saying she couldn't get hard which contradicted my experience with her just 2 months after you.  Look how white her cum is, not consistant with hormone use.

The 2nd you labelled her as some one to watch out for stealing which also didn't see in my 2 nights and one day with her. You failed to mention that you stiffed her for payment after she told you she could get hard but couldn't.

The I see the Yo thread and your labeling another lb as a thief, and failed to say anything positive about either until youre last post about Yo being easy on the eyes.

You rip me about not being classy for paying just a 1000 baht? WTF That was price she named, and I met it in full. Even bought her one of those 130 baht colas, and a breezer down at GB2. You on the other hand refused her payment for not getting hard.  I would have loved to see her looking for something a value to take while you booted her out her to the curb.

So after dissing two lbs who just had positive reports and sexy as photos I didn't view you as such a realiable critic. I'll have to dig through some old threads to see if you have any positive things to say about lbs, because I havent seen it on these two recent honeys.

Say what you want about my ex-gf, but realise a few guys on this forum found her sexy enough to be with her, and a few others have tried. I'm kind of happy you don't find her attractive, would hate to see her get stiffed by anyone. She got hard for me, but you might soften her up.



Nina's hard cock exploding white cum.

Maybe English is not your first language?

I did not pay Nam because she did not deliver what she promised and she knew that before we even went back to my hotel that is she did not live up to what she promised she would be getting anything and she agreed to such terms.

So it is ok for you to agree with a ladyboy for a 1000 baht and pay her the agreed amount but it is not for ok me to agree on an amount based on her performance and pay her accordingly? You yourself said you had a performance based price.

Well I have been around the scene for quite a while mate and hardly if ever said anything bad about a ladyboy but when it comes to stealing I believe I should inform others as I would hope they would do so for me.


BTW Nina/Nam has cum for me many times prior to this so that is why I took her again and even gave her a second chance.

In the case of Nina - if she decided to stay off hormones for 2 months after her experience with Ozzie, she would be able to perform with Boarhog. That's not an outrageous proposition as she may have decided it was better to be functional to make sure she could make her customers happy and be paid.

You don't seem to believe she could not get hard but I suppose you are some sort of medical expert? Even Rxpharm who is pharmacist has said that what I said is entirely feasible.

But I suppose you are just some Casanova that all the girls get hard for no matter whether they are on hormones or not?

[Guest]

I'm glad you got a Doctors excuse.


I was just pointing out the white colour of her cum, not clear cum.

I'm no expert mate, and not been around as long as you old timer.

As for price based on performance, I don't do this, however sometimes offer a performance bonus.

Its no wonder she couldn't get hard with all the pressure you put on her to get hard or no pay! I guess were just different mate, but I would never not pay a lb and would never make that stipulation in first place. I guess we just differ as I would be getting a world class blow job from her, thinking she is going to work her as off to make up for not getting hard, and if wasn't very good then I would be paying out on that ass holding off on cumming as long as possible.

No hard feelings Oz it just seemed strange that these two recent posts of great experiences were both accussed of stealing. Its all good to warn other fellas, but it just appeared unsubstantiated.

If you had said you went with her 6 or 7 times and then described your agreement that didn't hold up so to speak, then it would have looked more positive on her. I don't really think she earned the label of a thief, and her english isn't that strong in my opinion, may not have fully understood your agreement, or in a haste to make money just said yes to your pregame plan. She may not have understood all the implications, otherwise don't think she would have went knowing she might not be able to get hard for your pleasure.

[Ozzie]

(Boarhog @ Apr. 19 2009,18:13)
I'm glad you got a Doctors excuse.  
   

I was just pointing out the white colour of her cum, not clear cum.

I'm no expert mate, and not been around as long as you old timer.

As for price based on performance, I don't do this, however sometimes offer a performance bonus.

Its no wonder she couldn't get hard with all the pressure you put on her to get hard or no pay! I guess were just different mate, but I would never not pay a lb and would never make that stipulation in first place. I guess we just differ as I would be getting a world class blow job from her, thinking she is going to work her as off to make up for not getting hard, and if wasn't very good then I would be paying out on that ass holding off on cumming as long as possible.

No hard feelings Oz it just seemed strange that these two recent posts of great experiences were both accussed of stealing. Its all good to warn other fellas, but it just appeared unsubstantiated.  

If you had said you went with her 6 or 7 times and then described your agreement that didn't hold up so to speak, then it would have looked more positive on her. I don't really think she earned the label of a thief, and her english isn't that strong in my opinion, may not have fully understood your agreement, or in a haste to make money just said yes to your pregame plan. She may not have understood all the implications, otherwise don't think she would have went knowing she might not be able to get hard for your pleasure.

I am only 39 so not an old timer although have been around the ladyboy scene in Thailand for a few years.

I speak Thai pretty well and she repeated to me what was said so saying she did not understand is certainly not what happened here.

So the fact that she had my camera and other phone in her purse does not make her a thief? Well you and I have very different definitions on that then mate.

[Guest]

Lets see, you take Nina 5 or 6 times before without incident, then the time you don't pay her she takes some things.

I reckon you could have went back to her bar and probably paid her and got your phone and camera back.

You make these little pre-nups before every lb you take now? or just her because she couldn't get hard the time before.

Anyone have any photos of Yo, I'm getting tired defending lbs. Thanks TT for that one of Yo at Cascades, hard to get photos inside, and a very nice one at that.

[TTChang]

Photo of Yo in Cascades (last October) was courtesy of  Snick Publications. He previously posted it on his Halloween thread I think.  Snick doesn't work by the rules on   .... he flashes wherever he can!

Here's another one from that night. Looks as if Yo has stolen an identity  ......     Not so easy on the eye this time