Crystal Addiction

**stogie bear** · 12-15-2007, 12:51 PM

It's bad news for sure, but from where you are there's not a thing you can do. Sorry about your one time long time friend, but only she can make the changes, not you.

**rxpharm** · 12-15-2007, 12:56 PM

That's bad news to hear from someone you care about. It's been discussed in the forums and use of ice seems to be increasing among the working girls, both lbs and gg.

There is little you can do from where you are now. She does admit to being a user, but does she admit to being an addict? That is the first step. There are some organizations that help lbs who are addicted, - Sister's Home in Pattaya is one, but I am not sure they have any branches in Phuket.

However, she must want to get help before she can stop. Another thing is that she must remove herself from her friends who are users - and that would be difficult for her.

You probably know most of this already, but hard to help when you're so far away.

**Fred_Nguyen** · 12-15-2007, 01:11 PM

(LoveYouLongTime @ Dec. 15 2007,20:31) I just got off the phone with my old girlfriend and we were having a heart to heart conversation. Talking about the past and where we went wrong and then out of nowhere she tells me she has been doing crystal! She has been up for 4 days!!! She tells me she and her ladyboy friends have been doing it for over a year!!! She is ashamed and doesn't want to do it, but what can she do(Guilt trip on me...) I am in the States and I just want to fly over there and shake her up and try to straighten her out. She is only 21 years old... What can I do? I have been on and off with her for 5 years. We even went through the tsunami together on Phi Phi. We have been through hard times and had many good (and fun) times together...what should I and what can I do???

First of all I would counsel you to grow a brain and get a grip. Because saving her from herself is not within the power or capability of a gullible foreigner. You have already demonstrated extreme naivete. What makes you think you will not be further charmed and hoodwinked?

Second, how can you have a "heart to heart conversation" with someone high on crystal who has not slept in 4 days?

Third, based on everything you conceded, she is surely a sex worker (even if you are oblivious to that reality). I suspect then that you maybe made a typo when describing her age, as you wrote that you have been "on and off with her for 5 years". Unless "on and off" means you were just occasionally engaging in witty conversation with a fully clothed 16 year old who speaks another language.

**stogie bear** · 12-15-2007, 01:17 PM

Another thing is that she must remove herself from her friends who are users - and that would be difficult for her.

Very true. Nothing propogates an individuals use of drugs (or any behaviour, really) more than being surrounded by it.

The best thing she can do is move back to her home town and the best thing you can do is keep your fingers crossed.

Drugs are a bitch slapping pimp these days.

**perth_couple** · 12-15-2007, 01:17 PM

(rxpharm @ Dec. 15 2007,20:56) That's bad news to hear from someone you care about. It's been discussed in the forums and use of ice seems to be increasing among the working girls, both lbs and gg.

There is little you can do from where you are now. She does admit to being a user, but does she admit to being an addict? That is the first step. There are some organizations that help lbs who are addicted, - Sister's Home in Pattaya is one, but I am not sure they have any branches in Phuket.

However, she must want to get help before she can stop. Another thing is that she must remove herself from her friends who are users - and that would be difficult for her.

You probably know most of this already, but hard to help when you're so far away.

Wise words from rxpharm. If she has told you she wants help, be supportive and direct her to one of the local service providers to seek assistance locally. There is nothing you can do from where you are apart from support her to try and help herself....

Just our two baht's worth..

PC

**Guest** · 12-15-2007, 05:16 PM

Do not start sending her money!! That is usually what the guilt trip is all about. Also time to find a new one....that is always the best way to get over an old one who is too far gone. The only cure for love is to find new love!!

**post-op lover** · 12-15-2007, 06:05 PM

I'm with Fred. She was chatting up foreigners from age 16? You were chatting up a 16 year old in Thailand? She's far gone.

POL

**Zboy** · 12-15-2007, 06:53 PM

Move on with your life.

**Guest** · 12-16-2007, 12:21 AM

That might be his entire life!!!

**daveduke007** · 12-16-2007, 01:29 AM

(Fred_Nguyen @ Dec. 15 2007,13:11) First of all I would counsel you to grow a brain and get a grip

I certainly wouldn't HIRE you Fred

**Fred_Nguyen** · 12-16-2007, 02:42 AM

(daveduke007 @ Dec. 16 2007,09:29)
I certainly wouldn't HIRE you Fred

Good, because I'm not interested in short-time or long-time with you.

**dmlbl2001** · 12-16-2007, 09:54 PM

Very sad indeed. As others have stated the only person that can do this is herself. Unfortunately the odds are against her. The damage has already been done and there really isnt much you can do about it at this point. Wish her the best and move on with your life. Hers is over at this point.

**PigDogg** · 12-16-2007, 10:08 PM

(LoveYouLongTime @ Dec. 15 2007,05:31) We even went through the tsunami together on Phi Phi.

It's natural to want to help a friend especially on you went through the tsunami with.

But as other's have pointed out there's really nothing you can do. Her Thai speaking drug buddies have way more influence than you. Any money would simply buy more drugs.

**BAM** · 12-16-2007, 11:00 PM

That drug is so super addictive it's scary as hell.... The other problem is it's part of her lifestyle like with many LB's these days... it's a party drug and they like to party and it keeps them awake for days and that allows them to make more money. Even if you got her off the drug you'd have to take her away from her friends and the party lifestyle and that too will be near impossible.

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