Speaking my mind

[Guest]

some of you guys may have been surprised to see some of my posts from yesterday, but that stuff was all fresh on my mind and i wanted to relate it all as soon as i got back from Phuket and phi phi. it may have seemed angry and just downright ornary, but to be truthful I have been feeling like this for over a year now; as i said, i first made posts like this on the old yellow forum way back in fall of 2002, 15 months ago, but a few guys wrote me privately and basically said 'don't be such a downer; the guys up here look to you for guidence and don't want to hear that all these girls are mercenary and money-hungry', so i stopped speaking my mind for a while.

not anymore......we are all adults here and if people don't want to read or believe what i have to say about the scene here they don't have to. Like Cynic and Angelo and a few of the other guys that stay here most of the time, I have seen many things these last 5 years and want to relate them.

as they say, sometimes the truth hurts, but I will relate it anyway. the posts i made from yesterday still stand; i believe it is about 99% impossible to have a full-time, committed relationship with the same ladyboy for life [or even for an extended period] unless you are willing to shell out lots of cash, which I am not. so like donnnny, i will just continue to butterfly and have fun when I have it.

Jon

Jon

[stogie bear]

i believe it is about 99% impossible to have a full-time, committed relationship with the same ladyboy for life [or even for an extended period]

Depends where you look for them!

It's unlikely that ANY relationship is going to go the distance if you met the girl/boy/ladyboy/donkey in a shop that sells sex!

Every time I say that there are loads of girls who are just plain normal sexy and fun ladyboys who aren't money grabbing greedy parasites I get a flood of emails saying 'Where?'... The answer is always the same... 'Not where you're looking!'

i will just continue to butterfly and have fun when I have it.

Doesn't sound to me much like you are having fun anymore!

[Stewart]

>>>Every time I say that there are loads of girls who are just plain normal sexy and fun ladyboys who aren't money grabbing greedy parasites I get a flood of emails saying 'Where?'... The answer is always the same... 'Not where you're looking!'  >>>

I suspect we were looking for something a little more specific!! Now, if you want to be a money grabbing greedy parasite, I will pay you for this information!

[Guest]

hahahahahaha nice one stewart

[stogie bear]

Well, of course that isn't the answer I gave! But it is true none-the-less!

Your expectations of finding true love are unrealistic unless you actually live here. And even then it is almost all chance! (Doesn't that sound like everyplace on earth?)

If I was on my two week company vacation looking for a GG in Lima, Peru I would expect pretty much the same results!

But I don't think it is any harder for us pervees... Let's face it: The girls (not on the game) are really hungry for a nice chap to take care of them and they know their options are limited!

More power to the guys who wanna bonk them good and hard and then just dump them. I am jealous in a way and I would like tou have gone through a few before I met Kui... But I didn't and I have no regrets!

[Guest]

jon - you will recognize who i am...as we were in thailand at the same time...me in koh samui and you in phuket leaving for phi phi...

...well...were do i begin...first i agree with you that LB life is seedy and totally transparent. as you know, my first visit last year resulted in nailing JeJe, Manny, Golf, and several genetic duo's at eden club, some freelancers, and a massage tech in phuket.....this year (weeks ago)....i assaulted anney's anus, Aon's (sorry pal, you were right..she's lame)....again 4 duo's at eden, 3 non-pro genetics, and for the first time...i visited Obsessions and Casanova...what a rip and scam. yes, i did get ripped off by Jessy and Apple...but chocked it up to experience....and as a big boy i knew what a rip the bar scene is and would be...just figured i would see it once (should have called chompoo as you suggested)..

as you say...the ONLY motivation for having ANYTHING to do with us farangs is money...pure and simple. a short story....on samui, i hooked up with a hot local genetic. we did the gf thing for two days and it was fun....lazy days on the beach, afternoon sessions....enjoyed the jealous looks of fat farang wives on the beach with my 'lil cunt....but....the last day walking down chewang beach...she casually handed me a slip of paper...on it was a series of numbers that she explained was her "transfer bank account"....so totally transparent...and she also asked me for a motorscooter.... so..what did i do? took a long slow look at her...smiled slightly and said 'i can probably deposit something".....

took her back to my room...royally fucked her with 8x6 inches of hard meat for 2-3 hours so hard she had trouble walking...gaged her several times with some very enjoyable forced deep sucking, and made an arrangement to meet her at her place before lunch....except.....paradisiac checked out as planned and left for bkk...i made a point of tossing that scrap of paper ceremoniously in a trash bin at terminal one.

alright....i know some of you guys will jump me for being so cynical...but jon is right...its about MONEY dudes.

that is not to say...if you treat a LB with dignity and respect..which i ALWAYS do...some great experiences are possible.....for example.....

The JeJe affair was so hot and tender...I like hotels like the Landmark...i had the hottest sex you can imagine....we had dinner in bed...watched some great pay-for-view flicks and had both tender and very passionate sex....she came 7 times through the evening and night...no joke.

This time....Anney was a dream...she is so sensual and tender...a great lover. Again the Landmark...picture that smooth hot body (and huge cock) napping in the sunlight after a hot fuck session....memories like this are priceless. i fed her, she slept, we cuddled, kissed and fell asleep together...it was an experience.....AND that's the point guys.....it is an experience....keep it at that and you will be fine.

jon.....i think you are totally right about 99% of the LBs we know of....nearly EVERY genetic and LB that interacts with farangs is looking for a payday....its just that if you as a person can relate to them and keep it in your mind that it's just an 'intimate transaction" you'll be better off...emotionally and financially.

i 'discovered' LBs as a result of this site...and am indebted to jon for his great help and recommendations....my trips to thailand consist of:
- enjoying fine hotels, smoking cuban cigars after a great two girl fuck at eden's at the golden hotel next door, playing with jet ski's at phuket, samui, etc
- some hang gliding in pattaya and go-karting
- eating great food and enjoying it
- savoring an early morning starbucks alone AFTER she has left my room

....point is guys...enjoy the life....LBs are interesting an phenomena and experience. i think if you want to find one to hook-up with...you can...but it will be extremely difficult and emotionally risky...they are just too concerned with survival in thailand to be anything BUT totally predatory.

i'll probably get slammed for the above...but ok...let me know your thougths....

[stogie bear]

^ Makes sense to me!

[Bit Beefy]

I for 1 second that motion.

Its all in a nutshell for you fellas.

[Guest]

no, you won't get slammed, by me anyway, because I think that most of what you say is very true. and i am happy that I was able to help you out, even if you did not take my suggestion on a few things LOL. didn't call Chompoo?? big mistake. yes, when you wanted to meet with Aon I told you no problems but that she was pretty average in the sack [and people wonder why I was screwing everything in sight while we were a couple] but you had to learn from experience, and you did. your story about Anney was pretty on-target for what i have heard about her; she is killer in bed and every guy who has ever met with her has told me this. Jeje......needless to say; the same shit goes for her; EVERY guy who has ever met her has been happy, period. i STILL say you should have called Chompoo.....who did you end up with on your last day by the way?

yes....'memories are priceless'...that is a great line. i remember when I was a part-time visitor to the Kingdom and used to just come here for just 2 or 3 weeks at a time, and memories were all I had to hold me over until the next visit. and that was great.......it gave me something to look forward to. but now.....i live here 6 months a year......something most guys would die for........and it is starting to get so old when you see the dark side and realize that we are all just walking ATM's and that all these girls care about is extracting us from our cash. it leads one to be a little cynical [if the Cynic hadn't taken that name up here it would be mine now!!].

anyway......happy you had fun and that I could help you to meet some of the models....seems like most worked out for you. please feel free to write me anytime and chat; i enjoyed our correspondance while I was on phuket.

regards Jon

[Pinga]

Stogie,

I live in Lima, Peru and think that the chances are pretty good that you could find a GF here. The Peruvian girls are (IMHO) more romantic than those in LOS.

[Guest]

wow.....Peru.....I believe you are the only guy from that country that views the site and we thank you for that. although I could be wrong; maybe you are the only guy that has let yourself be known. are you peruvian or an ex-pat? are there any ladyboys there? some argentinian ladyboys are very cute and we all know about the brazillians, please tell us about Peruvian shemales if you have come across any.......thanks

regards Jon

[Pinga]

Jon,

i´m an expat but have lived her quite a while. VERY long way from LOS. There are a ton of LB´s here. Some cuties. I generally spend my time with GGs though. Some LB´s advertise in the local newspaper, but the majority work the streets in three main locations. The same problems with rip-offs as in LOS. Some of the less good looking ones are known to grab the car keys and jump out of your car...asking for a payment. The best idea is to have a room in a st hostal in the area (around $8), and then drive around until you see something you like. Ask the price and tell her to meet you at the hostal. Pretty risk free. I have met some extremely romantic lbs...who work the streets part time due to the lousy economic situation here. However lb´s aren´t accepted at all by society at large due to the latin macho culture. Don't want to take up too much space on this topic, but if you want to know more, I'd be happy to fill you in. Oh, by the way, prices are about the same as in LOS.

[Mai-Kee]

Hi Pinga, met a very cute LB from Lima recently in Amsterdam. Although I'm suffering from yellow fever, some of the latin chicks can always turn me on big time. That girl was one of them. I'm very much interested to get to know more about the tgirl scene in Lima. Pls. let us all know!

MK

[stogie bear]

I lived in Mexico for a few years. The ladyboys were skanks as were all the Mexican whores.

Be nice to have a few Peruvain LBs on the site! (Slobber!)

[Guest]

dear mr paradisia
you have got it ina nut shell, after 20 years in the land or scowls i could not put the sceen better.
cheeers donnnnny