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  • P4P Ladyboys vs. P4P Genetic Girls

    Just wanted to throw out a question for comment. Background, I am a Canadian that comes to Thailand quite regularly from my current home in a neighboring Asian country. I lived in Thailand for awhile, I can read, write and speak proper Thai at an acceptable level (although I sometimes pretend I cannot). I screw a lot of "Thai Nationals" both girls (GGs) and ladyboys (LBs). I've been doing it for years, and almost all are p4p in some way. Most have been GGs but a few LBs thrown in there for variety. I'd say my current ratio is 70/30 (GG/LB), but it used to be 95/5 (GG/LB).

    Of the GGs, I would say many are repeats (some regulars) and many are LT. One or two of them I have seen for more than 2 years, taken trips, etc. They come from gogos, PMs, soi33, beer bars, FLers, etc. Most in Bangkok but a few in Pattaya.

    Of the LBs, I would say only a few are repeats and most are ST. They've come from Nana or Guess. I tend not to do LT with a LB in Bangkok, because some of my colleagues stay in the same apartment building. These guys dabble in p4p so it is fine for me to be seen with a GG, but I do not want to be seen with a LB. When I am in Pattaya, I usually screw LBs but some GGs in there too! I fuck a lot.

    Anyway, here is my question, I want to know what you think. Do LBs in p4p get 'hardened' easier than GGs?

    I know my sample of LBs is small, but there are a few LBs I have seen who seem a little "harder" than when I first saw them. Vicky (Cascades) is one. And I screwed Noon (Cascades) once and she was fabulous ("fuck of the week"). I never repeated Noon but I have now read on here that she is bad news (although no one seems to say exactly why). Moo in Pattaya is another one that was great, then I read so much about her. Another LB worked at a beer bar and was spectacular 4 months ago. When I saw her last month, she hinted to be a little more "seasoned".

    I bring this question up because there are a few p4p GGs that I have seen regularly for awhile now, and I notice no "hardening" of them whatsoever. Just as cool and fun as when I met them.

    There are two LBs I met in Pattaya a few weeks ago and they were great, and I want to repeat with them. But what can I expect in the coming month and year. I'd like to try LTing a few of them in Pattaya (where I can be more 'free'). Will they be the same no-pressure, cool LBs I met or will they "change"?

    Thoughts?

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    [/QUOTE] Do LBs in p4p get 'hardened' easier than GGs?[QUOTE]

    isn't that the point of choosing an LB? if they can't get "hardened", they might as well *be* GGs!

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    • #3
      Eyemahk,
      As you pointed out in your post, your core sample is biased in one direction and so is your experience with the two types of P4P girls.
       This is not a flame just an observation , maybe you are experiencing a softer more responsive experience with repeat GG's because you are treating them with more respect(you dont mind your work colleagues observing you with them and long timing)and repeat custom puts both parties at ease with each other ,but with the LB's you are short timing , rarely repeat visits and hiding them away.
       You are not giving yourself or your question a proper platform to compare the two types of P4P girls.
       If you were to treat equall numbers of GG's and LBs exactly the same (to the same experience) then I would assume your results would be proportionately equall, which could include varying degrees of % great, %poor,%manic,%scary,%kinky,%starfish,%thief,%sweet ,% GFE, etc, etc,.

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      • #4
        whats a p4p?

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        • #5
          (allstar88 @ Aug. 22 2007,08:19) whats a p4p?
          p4p = pay-for-play, i.e someone you give some money to after you fuck them

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          • #6
            tropical made an interesting observation. Perhaps you could report back on your experiences with the Pattaya lbs you take LT and see if you feel that they are "hardened".

            It might confound things a bit though as some members have reported that Pattaya lbs do not seem as "business" minded as their Bkk sisters.

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            • #7
              Or you give them money and then you fuck them

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              • #8
                (rxpharm @ Aug. 23 2007,00:34) Perhaps you could report back on your experiences with the Pattaya lbs you take LT and see if you feel that they are "hardened".  

                It might confound things a bit though as some members have reported that Pattaya lbs do not seem as "business" minded as their Bkk sisters.
                Interesting point Rxpharm...I'm one of those who believe Pattaya girls have a better attitude then BKK girls...It would like to hear EyeMahk's opinion...
                "It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards."  --- Anon

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                • #9
                  moe666 said: "Or you give them money and then you fuck them"

                  In Thailand, always fuck first, pay later, otherwise the natural order of the Multiverse will be upset!

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                  • #10
                    Unless you are a sponser.

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                    • #11
                      (EyeMahk @ Aug. 22 2007,09:56) Anyway, here is my question, I want to know what you think. [b]Do LBs in p4p get 'hardened' easier than GGs?
                      My feeling tends to concur with yours.
                      Maybe because lately I've had some ST with a few LBs that really quite sucked (in the wrong sense ) and seriously made me think whether in future I should still waste my $$$$ in the P4P scene with LBs.

                      But it was in BKK, so not sure if Pattaya could be better or not. But for me Pattaya represents a destination with ZERO interests, so out of reach for time being.
                      Do only what you think it's good for you, and not what others think should be good for you!

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                      • #12
                        I used to have no interest in Pattaya either after having a couple of very boring days there in the mid 90's.

                        I on my 2nd short stay here now & ave hooked up with a cute ladyboy who's just a sweetie.

                        They're definatley sweeter & cheaper here than in Bangers & it seems that they're more realistic in short.

                        The super star bit in Bangers is just so stupid ?

                        The other one is the waiting for Japanese millionaires ?

                        Pattaya is definatley worth reconsidering.

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                        • #13
                          It is definitely correct that my sample is skewed towards GGs. Well, I will definitely continue my "research" on this topic in the coming month. Perhaps I should try to spend more time in Pattaya and try LT-ing a couple of LBs and see what happens.

                          For those that play on "both sides of the fence", would you say that GGs are more willing to go LT that LBs?

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                          • #14
                            There are several key factors are at play here. LB's have a lower percentage of actually hooking up long term or even married to their customers, so they get a hardened attitude earlier than many GG's. They don't expect as much but they still fantasize about the perfect relationship and the prospect of living with a man who accepts them as a wife and reaffirms their desire to be a woman. GG's don't have the issues of proving their femininity and thus face less pressure in daily life. GG's also often have children and focus their attention on their children whereas ladyboys are concentrating on their looks and getting the most mileage out of their shorter life as an attractive partner.

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                            • #15
                              of course they get hardened faster...
                              first of all...they are not"reconised" by their own goverment and are threated like second rank people.

                              second they are hunted like animals by the BIB`s cause they are easy targets...

                              third some guys dont even want to been seen with them but make arrangement for them to come to their hotels later than them self...

                              how would that make YOU feel???

                              and btw...i love you avatar...
                              all the ladyboys i know laughs when we have sex.....no matter what book they read

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