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(ozzie @ Apr. 30 2007,08:27) Yet another ridiculous statement from brocklanders. So according to you having a cock makes you a man pure and simple right and that is why being fucked by a ladyboy makes you gay? Well what about being fucked by a girl with a strap on, is it the act of being penetrated or the is because you just see ladyboys with cocks as men and those who have had the op as women?

Well then by your logic if I went in and had cut my cock off and turned it into a pussy and was then proceeded to be fucked by a man that would not him gay even though I look nothing like women and never and there is no doubting that emotionally i am still male?

Please enlighten all of us?

Which is more intolerant, having an unconventional belief and occasionally expressing it in a non-threatening manner in response to a poll, or having a hissy fit because someone else's belief is not like yours?

Come on Ozzie, you are not going to change his opinion. It is futile and conceited to think the world is going to be a better place if he shared your opinions, no matter how enlightened you think you are.

So just lighten up and ignore him rather getting long-winded. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for the wankers who think you are an easy target because you are wound too tight.

Some might argue that it is YOU who has the gay complex. If someone calls most guys here gay, well most guys are probably just going to move on with their lives. It seems a lot of people are kind of immune to silly taunts. If someone even suggests that you might be gay, well all of a sudden you have your hands on your hips and writing bitch-style hypothetical scenarios "So according to you...! Well what about..."

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(sangabriel @ Apr. 30 2007,16:02) Which is more intolerant, having an unconventional belief and occasionally expressing it in a non-threatening manner in response to a poll, or having a hissy fit because someone else's belief is not like yours?

Come on Ozzie, you are not going to change his opinion. It is futile and conceited to think the world is going to be a better place if he shared your opinions, no matter how enlightened you think you are.

So just lighten up and ignore him rather getting long-winded. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for the wankers who think you are an easy target because you are wound too tight.

Some might argue that it is YOU who has the gay complex. If someone calls most guys here gay, well most guys are probably just going to move on with their lives. It seems a lot of people are kind of immune to silly taunts. If someone even suggests that you might be gay, well all of a sudden you have your hands on your hips and writing bitch-style hypothetical scenarios "So according to you...! Well what about..."

I am not trying to change his mind just trying to understand his logic so that is why I gave my example.

We can see here who is wound too tight as you take every opportunity to try and "wind me up".

I could care less who calls me gay, bi, tri all I know is some people have a pretty narrow view on sexuality and love the throw labels around. If everyone ignored everyone on this forum it would be a pretty dull place. Just as he is encouraged to post his opinion I am certainly allowed to post mine or is it only you who can do that?

Maybe you need to lighten up. I while try unwind by calling some home delivery from the Guess bar.

[stogie bear]

I while try unwind by calling some home delivery from the Guess bar...

If you can't eat it all it'll last till the morning and you can finish it for breakfast!

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(stogie bear @ Apr. 30 2007,15:11)

I while try unwind by calling some home delivery from the Guess bar...

If you can't eat it all it'll last till the morning and you can finish it for breakfast!

    Great post, Stogie!

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"Gay" is a word, and like any word it has a definition made up of other words.

Everybody's definition is a little bit different, so one person might be considered Gay by one person's definition but not by another persons.

Its a silly exercise to try and define or categorize us.

I am a person who 'likes to fuck ladyboys, doesn't like to get fucked, will play with a girls dick and has no interest in men' -- whether that makes me 'gay' or not will vary on each persons private definition of the word.

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(ozzie @ Apr. 30 2007,14:25) I am not trying to change his mind just trying to understand his logic so that is why I gave my example.

We can see here who is wound too tight as you take every opportunity to try and "wind me up".

I could care less who calls me gay, bi, tri all I know is some people have a pretty narrow view on sexuality and love the throw labels around. If everyone ignored everyone on this forum it would be a pretty dull place. Just as he is encouraged to post his opinion I am certainly allowed to post mine or is it only you who can do that?

Maybe you need to lighten up. I while try unwind by calling some home delivery from the Guess bar.

Well best of luck to you, sir.

As for the way I try to unwind from a long day's work of Interior Designing, well, I just sip a tall portagaff and put on an Air Supply record, maybe a PJ Hogan film like Muriel's Wedding or Peter Pan if I really need to indulge myself.

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(stogie bear @ Apr. 30 2007,15:11)

I while try unwind by calling some home delivery from the Guess bar...

If you can't eat it all it'll last till the morning and you can finish it for breakfast!

A good substitute for Vegemite...

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(sangabriel @ Apr. 30 2007,19:04) As for the way I try to unwind from a long day's work of Interior Designing, well, I just sip a tall portagaff and put on an Air Supply record, maybe a PJ Hogan film like Muriel's Wedding or Peter Pan if I really need to indulge myself.

Are you wearing your Abercombie and Fitch tank top while typing on the latest Apple tablet also?

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interior design
well you must be gay for sure

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Brock, you just can't help yourself can you? I know for a fact you are a relatively broad-minded individual who is more than capable of accepting other people's opinions but when the "gay continuum" rears its ugly head you go for it every time.

You know how much it winds people up - you secretly love pissing people off right? Is this some sort of release valve for having to be polite to arseholes at work all day?

[newwriter]

BTW - continuum or continuim? I used the former but the latter reads better.

[rob69in]

Does it really matter, straight, gay, bi, as long as you & the consenting adult you are with are enjoying it.

So what if you are the founder member of "The Bishop Worshipers, Reach Round & Back Scuttlers Club", so you sucked a few bishops, stuck your rod down the odd dirt box, & had more than few shuved up your own in your time. Like it matters! NOT. Plus its not really anyone elses business what you like to do behind closed doors.

Personally I am not bothered if I'm straight, gay or bi, I'm enjoying myself in the sack!

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I do agree with Ozzie in trying to understand and sometimes change someone's logic if it is faulty.

Let's follow Brocklanders, and I think your logic, Sangabriel.

First, the biology dominates logic...

You associate us, the majority, as being "gay" because we are sometimes "receptive". You consider the act of a biological male being receptive as being gay. So, this therefore would imply all LBs are gay because they are always receptive.

Likewise, since you do not consider yourselves gay because you penetrate rather than being receptive, that then implies that if you fuck a man, who behaves in the gender of a man, you are not gay.

Illogical or non-sensical.

Now, the gender dominates logic...

Ok, so now, if you say that to fuck a man, who behaves in the gender of a man, is gay, but to fuck a LB who behaves in the gender of a woman, is not gay (which I suspect you are saying), you imply gender is more important than biology.

If that is true, then it follows that to be fucked by a LB is not being fucked by a man, because gender dominates, it is being fucked by a woman really. But then, if you get fucked by a GG with a dildo, that would be logically the same, and you would be gay if you got fucked by a lady.

Again illogical or non-sensical.

No matter what way you look at it, your logic does not work.

The key point here, which is blindingly obvious, is that we all associate LBs with the feminine gender, not with the male gender. That is why we do not feel gay by sucking their dicks or getting fucked by them. If I were to suck a man, I completely agree, I'm gay, forget about even being fucked by him. For me there is zero continuum there. To kiss a man is gay.

If you say a LB's biology dominates over her gender in determining her partner's sexuality, then we are all gay (and happy).

In short, gender clearly dominates over biology in most members' minds, and that is why we are comfortable sucking dicks, getting fucked by "women" and not feeling ourselves gay.

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It is the mindset and the act. You are saying that the act and the gender are mutually exclusive and I am saying all factors come into play. You are separating the cock and the person as if they have a detachable penis.

Getting fucked up the ass by a man OR ladyboy= gay

Sucking cock of a man or a ladyboy= questionably gay but I say gay

Fucking a man= gay

Fucking a preop ladyboy with tits= not gay although there might be acts during the session that might be considered gay

Fucking a postop ladyboy= not gay

Fucking a femboy without tits or a drag queen= On the fence on this one

So quit trying to turn it into a scientific study about logic, logic is not involved here.

I understand that it is the LADY in the ladyboy that we like but if you like the COCK more than the LADY, then that's gay because it is a masculine body part...as masculine as it gets.

Trust me, I understand there is a HUGE grey area here as many like the lady part of the ladyboy but like to please their partner or themselves by utilizing the ladyboy's cock.

So ask yourself this: When you first decided you were attracted to ladyboys, did you tell yourself 1. What a beautiful looking girl/looks hotter than any girl I have seen or 2. I can't wait to see if this ladyboy has a huge cock to play with or 3. Both

It is the BOTH area that confuses the gay issue and will be debated infinity.

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I have never touched ladyboy cock,
except Moo´s and that was underwater
i only fuck ladyboy, never get fucked
i kinda like the idea/fantasy to be shagged but that would turn me more to the gay side
I´m also not sure if i would like it.