Do you get mobbed?

[buttafly]

when I am home I tend to read this forum more often and post my thoughts on some topics; as long as I don't get too negative or combative Mister Stogie Bear lets me hang around here! Don't ever , OK, SB?? I don't want to end up like your buddy Costa so I will remain nice and friendly, promise.


anyway, I read a lot that punters get "mobbed" as they enter Nana Ladyboy bars, especially the greenhorns and new people who walk into Casanova for the first time; those girls know who the rookies are for sure!

This never happens to me in any ladyboy bar and I am thankful for that, and I also see many guys walk in and not get this treatment and then see others {and always the Japanese} who get bombed with 7 or 8 girls hovering and just basically being annoying. Old guys seem to get this a lot also, seems like the girls like easy money and old gents don't fuck too hard.

Guess bar is different in this regard, which is very nice. The manager there named Jay {whom I have met a few times and is a very cool lady} listens to guys like us and tells the girls NOT to do that crap and they don't, again a welcome change to Nana.

A commom theme I read here and I remember myself from when I used to, errrrr, "butterfly" much more than I do now; all a guy wants is to sit down, have a look at the talent [which is more than ever these days], sip on a beer and be left alone until he finds one he likes and calls her over for a drink.

But the sharks don't allow this; they hover, rub your thigh, whisper sweet nothings [read; bullshit] into your ear and are generally annoying as fuck. A Hassle? For sure.....and if you want to go to Nana and you are new or just have been there a couple times, expect this crappola.

[stogie bear]

One of the most frustrating things about these places is the 'mob' factor.

I don't mind eye contact from the dancing area, but being sat next to really chaffs my bum cheeks. I have taken to employing extreme means to avoid this in the past such as sitting on the edge of the bench, or in the middle of my friends so they can't find a gap to weed their way in. I'veeven emptied ashtrays next to me so they'll get the idea and fuck off.

But the best way to defeat these attacks is to go in with another ladyboy! That (usually) works though there's always some bright beam of Thai intelligence that thinks you are still up for 'grabs' even when you have your lb chum ensconced permanently by your side.

But going in with another lb kind of defeats the odds for most of us right? We want to perch and ogle for a while...

There are no good answers that I can give you. I never go into a shitpit on my own because of this issue. When I do go in there with friends I drink water and stress for about 30 mintes then make my excuses and leave. Horrible places.

Like buttafly says - the only place that treats their customers with any dignity and respect is The Guess Bar.

[buttafly]

(stogie bear @ Apr. 01 2007,01:05) But the best way to defeat these attacks is to go in with another ladyboy! .

But going in with another lb kind of defeats the odds for most of us right?

last month I took a LB friend out....she wanted to see her friends in Kings Corner and to go there a ladyboy needs an "escort"....I assume most ladyboy bars don't like ladyboys just hanging around so this may be fairly common, don't really know.

        after that we went to KC3, an annoying fucking hellhole if there ever was one; MUCH worse than any of the Nana bars and loud as hell! so my friend and myself sit and look at the stage, she had never been in there before.  Nanci came and chatted and was welcome, she is very cool; but then some annoying, brain -dead postie[ redundant?] came and sat next to my LB friend and was angling for "us" to take her out!  Huh?  For what, to pay for YOUR ice habit? Don't think so, beee-atch.



 I say "no, we are going to a disco and just stopped in here for a beer first"....... she says "you take me with you" and kept that crap up for about 10 minutes, enough to drive us right out of that fucking place! And as usual I say as we are leaving, "I will never go in that dump again".

 It's amazing to me that some of these places are even still open the way the customers get treated

[Snick]

I never get the Mob anymore, but sometimes I go to a Nana bar and sit alone, either I am waiting for someone or none of the girls I like to sit with are available. When I do sit alone I often get a newbie who tries to sit next to me, and refuse to go away, one time I had one sit down uninvited shake my hand and then tell me the 'Rules' - that now I had to buy her a drink because we shook hands. I laughed in her face and then had to push her of the seat.

Here are the rules - there are no rules.

Courtesy is that if you call a girl over or spend more than a few minutes with her you should buy her a drink, but its not a 'rule' just 'the way things work'

[kaos]

there is a simple way to avoid the mob...go to the bar...take one drink only for you...whoever sit near you be polite but dont buy any drink...choose the girl you like and again dont buy any drink...go out.
do this few more times and i wont have any mob at all.
well this will work better with new customers with the old ones they know you so it will be more difficult if you have a different habit.
these people are in the bussinnes for years and they understand which kind of customer you are...in general the bars for farangs dont care about the customer and they are not looking for the frequent customer, they just want to get you inside and spend as much money they can make you to spend.
be always polite and smile and you can get what you want (just like they do with you)

[falla33]

my first exprience in casanova i did get mobbed couldnt resist marisa kel and talisha but had a great time
they all a little different tho

[katoeylover]

They can spot a newbie at 100 yards!!

I dont mind it actually, just a part of Nana. Now its not so bad for me, but as Snick says the new girls will always try it on.

[Guest]

To me there is nothing worse than been accosted by 10 or more women when u walk in to a bar. I prefer to have a drink , relax and take it all in before talking to a lady. The other thing annoys me is the music !

[kahuna]

I used to when I was new and allowed them to...but now they usually leave me alone...

Remember, you're the one with the money...simply tell them politely to leave you alone...
If that dosen't work, tell them rudely to leave you alone...If that dosen't work, go to
another bar...they will get the message...

[Guest]

I'm a bit lost here.

As Snick said, there is a common courtesy that exists, as it is 'just the way things are'.

Pick a girl, she sits beside you, you buy a 100 baht drink, no mob, no fuss. All the girls go away.

You don't have to take her out, you can watch the girls and pick one you want, and you have nice company beside you while you're looking, who might even turn out to be the one you pick. You don't even have to talk to her.

If you do see one you like, invite her over, and the first girl gets the hint and goes away.

It's not bloody rocket science here.

I don't see any rational reasons to be rude, or try and save a whopping 100 baht, and be the stingiest and rudest customer in the bar. If you can't afford to buy 1 drink, why are you there in the first place?

As for Mother Teresa's Guess Bar, I have been aggressively asked for drinks and for me to take girls out, so not sure we're going to the same place. Maybe the girls are just better at hiding it from the boss now.

Finally, you have to remember, these girls are trying to earn a buck, often, desperately. While we understand our perspective, think of their's too. They want to make money, it's as simple as that. They're not committing a criminal offense just by standing in front of you. They're just beautiful girls standing there in bikinis in front of you; jeez, how mild an offense can you get? You'd die for it in your home country.

[Guest]

I don't think there is anything wrong that they do this. After all, if you have 90 competitors while you try to make abuck, you would do the same. I want to remind everybody NOT to forget where we are coming from. Buying a 100Bht drink is really nothing back home.
I have kind of mood swing on this though. Sometime I want to be left alone, sometime I want to 7, 8 girls hitting on me at the same time. Talking about "fantasy", isn't this cheapest fantasy you can buy? Why complain?

[tampanugget_2001]

I don't like being "mobbed" any better than the next guy, but I do understand these girls are trying to market their wares. I would hate to be in their place waiting if someone is going to pick them (all the while wondering were rent and food money are going to come from.

Several years ago I ran a small business and it was unerving at times how the business would go hot and cold. If it was a slow month I'd ending up accepting jobs that in hindsight I should not have taken. So my sympathies are with these girls (its a rough life at times).

[Snick]

(ziggystardust @ Apr. 01 2007,12:50) I'm a bit lost here.

As Snick said, there is a common courtesy that exists, as it is 'just the way things are'.

Pick a girl, she sits beside you, you buy a 100 baht drink, no mob, no fuss. All the girls go away.

What I was saying is the girl sat next to me uninvited, shook my hand and then said I had to buy her a drink - its the Rules.

My way is I buy a girl a drink IF I ask her to sit with me, I will usually buy a drink for the previous girl I was with if I am butterflying. And Occasionally I will buy the service girls and Mamasan a drink, since I go often and like the extra service ( I.e a first timer doesn't have too )

[kahuna]

(ziggystardust @ Apr. 01 2007,12:50) I'm a bit lost here.

As Snick said, there is a common courtesy that exists, as it is 'just the way things are'.

I don't see any rational reasons to be rude, or try and save a whopping 100 baht, and be the stingiest and rudest customer in the bar. If you can't afford to buy 1 drink, why are you there in the first place?

Don't get me wrong...rude is my telling the girl that I would never barfine who trying to force herself
on my lap and asking for a drink over and over again to get the fuck away...

Over the past 3 months I have spent thousands of baht in these bars...and I expect to be treated with the same respect that I try to treat all the girls...

I buy all the girls that I know drinks and the serving girls and the mamasans...I have several times bar fined several girls and the mamasan and taken them to a disco...and I have done this in different bars...

But when I want to be left alone and to sit and select a new girl or the girl of my choice for the evening...I expect to be left alone...and If that means telling some girl I don't want and would never want to get off my lap and leave me alone, I will...you can all buy her and her like friends drinks if you want...just not my style any longer...

A word of caution...when you start buying multiple drinks in Obs...keep a close count...several times I truly believe that my bill was padded...I wish they would all adopt the KC3 practice of making you sign for each drink you buy...

[Guest]

I'd like to offer another perspective.
There is a cultural factor too. If you talk to a Thai, I don't think they can comprehend the idea that you can go into a store, browse around, without sales clerk following you trying to chat.
This is the way Thai people (or Asian, or people who live in high population density places) do business. This is not too different from DVD hawkers in Pantip. Of course, p4p scene is even more intense.
I got a friend from HK. We went to a dim sum place one time and I could not believe how rude he was ignoring the old ladies pushing the carts. You have to learn to control yourself. Their job is to keep pushing, your job is to keep fencing. There we have a perfect game.