Who wrote this?

[Guest]

its stoogie

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

For sure it wasn't Jannie. I doubt seriously if Jai Dee/Jon would go all the way to Amsterdam, plan on meeting Jannie there after she comes from Paris to visit him and then stands her up. Benz is the choice as he has expressed a lot of affection for this lass.

[Guest]

(PogueMahone @ Sep. 21 2006,10:04) Benz is the choice as he has expressed a lot of affection for this lass.

Hee hee, I guess you read my posts on Benz the wrong way somewhere along the line, Pogue; she plain lied to a friend of mine about something completely unfounded and ruined our friendship, so I have little affection for her.


Jannie is cool, we have been friends since 2001 and she has always been nice to me. she came up to Amsterdam for 3 days in April with Praw and we all had fun together, she is OK in my book but a very unlikely choice to write a letter like this.

Areeya also......people who voted for her must have never met her! But again, another cool ladyboy whom I have known for years and has always been kind to me despite some comments up here from people who didn't find her as charming as I do.

No, the winner is..... not on this list! Sorry for the tease, but in respect to this ladyboy and with guidance from Padraig I won't reveal the true ladyboys name lest I embarass her, but she is one of our models here and a good friend of mine also, someone very cool and funny who was certainly writing this with tongue firmly implanted in cheek.

Just a warning here, lads..... as 69Billy says and as any long-time traveller to the LOS knows, SMS texts, notes and e-mails like this can end up in your posession at any time; take them for what they are, an ego boost, some jovial fun, perhaps even some sincerity from a ladyboy who likes you a bit. But in the end remember the key point; if something better comes along for the author, the reciever will oftentimes be dust and the message means nothing.

Thanks for Voting! {really, it WAS Stogie! shhhhhh}

[PigDogg]

She probably doesn't take to many hormones hence the line:

"I'm not impotent for you""

[gunslinger]

SMS texts, notes and e-mails like this can end up in your posession at any time

yes indeed, u should always be wary of this sort of stuff, it is flattering I agree, but any line with "miss" "butterfly" "love" "why" "me" "no good" "sad" "cry" and "money" should probably be disregarded, I think they are uncontrollable automatic responses.

A bit like when you sneeze while taking a piss and a fart comes out.

[dummy_plug]

Hilarious, but true! Some of these girls are like fuckin' robots and two-trick ponies (no pun intended)!

[Guest]

the texts are an investment; spend 50 or 60 baht in texts for a couple days, make the guy believe he is the ONLY one for her and boost his ego, and then make 2000  baht when he says 'come over and see me?'.  we all know these girls are smart.

    another famous line, translated below; "I don't care about money, I like you".


      I want your money.

[Guest]

Maybe we should merge this thread with the "Are you cynical yet?" thread.

[Guest]

(Sparhawk @ Sep. 25 2006,11:15) Maybe we should merge this thread with the "Are you cynical yet?" thread

Oh yes, this thread is also VERY cynical!  and yet oh so true...

    Phone call from ladyboy 1 hour before we were supposed to hook up one night during the winter;

"Sorry, my friend she sick very much na, she in hospital and I must go to see her, we can go out again tomorrow"?

    Translation;

     Another sucker with more money called me so you are put on hold.



             Hey, she was only 19 so she couldn't have known that I had heard it all before!  Mai Pen Rai, that is why they make a place called Nana Plaza.......when dates like this are broken there are always 100 others just waiting to take their place.

[Guest]

Oh, I wasn't questioning the truth behind the comments here. I'm a newbie to the p4p and ladyboy scenes, but I've already seen from this forum that it's a mercenary business. Money talks, and more money talks louder. Yes, real friendships and relationships can be made, but they're definitely in the minority. One of the things I enjoy most about this forum is that these kind of details aren't glossed over. By all means, keep telling us the truth, JaiDee ... just don't change your name to JadedDee

[Guest]

(Sparhawk @ Sep. 26 2006,01:46) Yes, real friendships and relationships can be made, but they're definitely in the minority.

Oh, I don't know....... I have met probably 600 or 700 ladyboys this decade and read e-mails from over 1000 westerners and lots of forum posts here also; total number of relationships that have worked for longer than, say, 3 years in this decade and between those 2000 people?   One..... the guy in Switzerland [and good for him, but he is in a very small minority].

    But hey, from what I see here on occassion it happens all the time!  westerners and Thai ladyboys have true love every day, they settle down for long-term relationships and the guys stop butterflying and love their ladyboy forever and  ever and she loves him.....just because it's only happened once in 2000 tries, why believe what I say?

  Real 'friendships' can be made, I actually have a few  Thai and Philippina people I have met along the way  whom I really like and I hope they genuinely feel the same. But as it should be, these people value family over all else; someone from the west getting in the way of that will not be stood for under any circumstances.  And yet guys try and buck the  trend every day and beat the odds and with 99.9% disastrous results.


      I will go away again soon and leave this place alone, lots of the things I talk about here are controversial and takes away from the fun which most guys are looking for when they come here to read.  If you want some advice as a newbie just PM me anytime, i'd be happy to share some of the things I have learned over the years. Just be prepared to be shocked.

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

Jesus JaiDee, you come and go like a typical ladyboy. One minute you are giving advice to the "newbies" here like the old pro you are and then you decide to pack it all in and go away. Just what gives? I remember you from the git go, your wit and wisdom were greatly appreciated, I know that I learned so much from this site in its early days. In my opinion, I noticed a change in tone when things went South with you and Aon. Yes, I know that you and Aon are friends now but Dude, you flamed her and other LB'S big time before your first disappearence from AsianTS. I remember you telling me in an email that you were planning on making the move to Thailand on a permament basis in the next five years. Is that still a part of your plans?
Sure, over the past two or three years there has been some serious shit going down here and in one particular case you were getting undeserved grief from some Jackass. Maybe a break was deserved but are you willing to give up this labor of love for LB'S and walk away into the sunset? More power to you, you will be sorely missed.

[dummy_plug]

(JaiDee @ Sep. 26 2006,08:17) I will go away again soon and leave this place alone, lots of the things I talk about here are controversial and takes away from the fun which most guys are looking for when they come here to read.

Why leave JD? Keep on preachin' and tellin' it like it is. I know I sure do. Hopefully the newbies that have read my trip reports are able to learn something and save themselves from a little heartbreak before they get steamrolled. I think your perspective is a good balance to the dreamy stories sometimes romanticized on the boards. Yeah, it's not all fun and games and guys like us need to tell it like it is.

[Guest]

 I'm with DP on this, JaiDee. I've seen a couple of other forums, but this is the only one I've read continuously. Some guys may only want to see the pics and have some vicarious fun through the trip reports, but I think there are a number of us who want to hear the whole story, both good and bad. Obviously, it isn't all fun, like DP said, but the p4p scene definitely seems to be a game, and I, for one, would rather know the rules and how the game is played, than to wake up one day and realize that I'm the one being played.

Just wanted to let you know that your experience and opinions are appreciated, and if you do leave your perspective will be missed. So keep on posting!  

[Guest]

Pogue.......the reason I come and go so much from here is simple; it's not quite the same like it was in the old days.  You remember I am sure; there was a time when I could speak my mind and actually HELP people to get through the obstacle course that is known as the Thai nightlife scene.  Now I am told my posts bring down the 'mood' of this forum and I also get a lot of dissension and disagreements to the things I say; as if I say them up here for my own purposes!  The things I have learned should be shared, but if people just give me grief and BS all the time do I need that?

        I remember last fall....I was posting here regularly....  some great guy named OilBaron accused me of posting under 2 screen  names to back up my own opinions!  Huh? Stogie proved him wrong by showing that one IP address was in Boston and one in Atlanta, and yet I was still a "dodgy lout" {I think that is a liar and a cheat } in his opinion; I need that? That was enough to keep me away for 6 months. People ripping the product here or complaining like whining pussies on a free public forum [paid for by us!] also drives me nuts; not one other website allows this but we are supposed to for some reason.

          I won't get into some of the other stuff I had to stomach in the early summer upon return here but it made me cringe and enough to keep me away again for a while. I stick my head in here every so often to see what's up but I think the days of serious posting and 'telling it like it is' are probably better left in the past, as I say above this is generally a cheerful place now and better left untouched by my cynicism.  I also have a much smaller role with this website  now,  not part of the management anymore and just a consultant here;  eventually the new owners will surely just tire of my nonsense and probably ask me to stay away all together.

        Many other things along the way;  reverse stings on lazy failures who were manly enough to threaten me or worse and then fall flat on their faces; bizarre behaviour from some guy who I treated very well and used to have his own forum here, and then spread the word far and wide that I was some sort of a devil; young and healthy ladyboys mutilating themselves, drugging their bodies with crack and other strange behaviour; watching grown men get hooked in to "love" [always one way] with young male prostitutes on a daily basis; trying to help people get started in this business  only to get stabbed in the back repeatedly; trying to help people up here and constantly being told I am full of shit; being nice to people and then watching with disbelief as they try to burn me.....it gets to someone, ya'  know?

    99% of the people I come across either here or in person are very cool, honest and fun people.  The 1% who fuck things up for the others are the reason I can't be a real presence here same as before, plain and simple.  Again, posts like this are a downer in what should generally be a fun place so who needs it?  The 99% of cool people referred to above and newbies who want my help can write to me anytime, I'd be happy to share

  for the 1%, you all ruined a good thing here in my opinion.