Ladyboy relationships

[Guest]

Morning guys.
I've been in and out of the Lb scene for over 25 years now, and only over the past 7/8 years with the internet and Ladyboy sites popping up every where,for those admirers, only have to jump on a plane and within hours have an Lb in there arms. Imagine what it was like way back,scanning the newspapers, going to Le-boy shows just to get your fix,,Bet some of the dinasaurs here would remember?

Anyway,getting back to the topic.
I knew a guy from another site that thought he had it all,,one of the hottest ladyboys in Thailand,,flying here flying there, he spent a small fortune on her,had the time of his life,but now back to square one..

I only speak for myself,but Iv'e often thought what it would be like to settle down with an Lb,,for one thing,they can be more demanding than a GG, normally I dont give a flying what people think of me when walking down the street with one,but in the long run you will be invited to places where you cant take your lady,,especially if your a business man and have a few straight clients or associates.
Most of us are kidding ourselves if we think long term is for us,,
Man and wife with a ladyboy? not for me..
I'll treat them as a game of golf once a week




Bali_Ken

[Guest]

hey ken.. i am taking your advice myself now.. the internet makes it too easy to bring thailand home with you.. my last trip in may i let myself get too involved with a certain LB at the OBs.. the problem was not the week i was with her in bkk.. it really was a great time i and liked being with this pretty little LB. the problem began when i came home and started getting all the e-mails from her.. i should have discouraged her from writing me all the time telling me all that stuff that all of us guys have heard from LBs over there.. but i didn't..and now has my trip gets closer i had to tell her that i was going to butterfly on this trip... man oh man it was like i was the biggest bastard in the world.. she is pissed off bigtime.. all because i like getting her e-mails and never put a stop to her wish to have a farang boyfriend.. big mistake that i will never let hapen again.. the time has come to pay the piper.. when i go back to thailand in two weeks the bar where this girl works is going to be virtually off limits to me.. it has put a crimp in my activities in and around nana..

so my advice to all the new members of the site that read this post is try to leave thailand in thailand.. don't fall in the trap of thinking you can have a relationship on line with one of those beautiful ladyboys over there.. unless you really do fall in love with her.. in my example i should have left thailand in thailand...rod

[stogie bear]

Well, it doesn't always work out that way...

The first thing we should remember is that when us guys are looking for a ladyboy we are looking to fill a sexual urge. So we are the same as any other guys that look for a pretty bar girl, right?

The complications set in after you have decided that you want to explore a relationship that exceeds the sexual boundaries that it started off in.

You buy a ladyboy for sex and fall in love with her... Hmmm. Not a practical approach to a relationship is it!

It doesn't work with a GG bargirl from Thailand and it doesn't work with a hooker from New york!

The first thing to examine is what you really are looking for for yourself. Some fantasy bonking, or a girlfriend. Smart fellas can often juggle the two.

I can't. I decided long ago that even though frequent sex with ladyboys would be a fantasy come true, I really wanted a ladyboy girlfriend more.

These stories of failed relationships are not indiginous to LB lovers like us lot. It's a universal tale of woe.

Start looking in the right places and you will find the right partners!

I did first time. So for you guys reading this and wondering if it can be done, I say it can.

And I don't believe that LBs are more demanding than GGs. Why would they be? But hookers are more demanding than college students!

There are simply tens of thousands of passable ladyboys out there in Thailand who are just dying for a normal relationship and to live life as a girl.

And they are easy to find if you are prepared to look, and you want to meet one that badly!

Topper: Was the girl in the relationship in question called Nat? (An amazonion beauty with braided hair?)

Good luck to anyone willing to make the effort...

[Guest]

Stogie,,,as a matter of fact,,yes,,,AL was his handle,,We used to exchange quite a lot of email,,seemed nice a real good bloke,,,aren't we all...wonder what he's upto now....
BTW,,just checked out nat,,love to get my paws on her...

Bali_Ken

[stogie bear]

I remember him well. He and the lady tried to get rid of all traces of her on the net. (They were quite succesful too.) She went to England a lot on the pretext of modelling and acting etc!

Beautiful girl she was, and Al was a terrific guy too.

He had a good innings with her, but they were rarely together long enough to sustain a long term relationship.

[liisawinkler]

It really astounds and has me questioning guys? Why do LB-men relationships do not last long? Is it physical, financial or something else?

And the one question bugging me....Does one need to be passable to be a good LB wife for the guy in circumstances where say the man has to face clients or other people and must have a wife who can pass for a female to maintain a sort of 'normal' position in society (as viewed by people in his community?

[stogie bear]

Hi Lisa...

In business situations I think that it does matter if the LB is passable or not. In 20 years time it WON'T matter, but today it does.

Tell us Lisa, what are your experiences? Have yo lived as a wife for some lucky man? Has it worked out for you both?

The LB / guy relationships ofetn don't work out for exactly the same reasons that normal relationships don't work out.

People just don't get along after a while...

You can't blame cuture, age, education, religeon or sexual identity...

It just happens. Oh well...

By the way LISA, if you would ;like to write a monthly newsletter or diary for the site then please get in touch with me...

[liisawinkler]

off topic:
Mr. Stogie Bear..is it something like a journal or an article? would love to do that!!!


An American guy came here in late April who wanted to marry me in September as he was looking for a place to settle in Baguio which is the summer capital of the Philippines...he was really loving and so nice to me and I thought that it would be so easy to love him...but alas! Physically I was not quite clicking with him for reasons that are personal...Before I've always thought that I could settle down with any man willing to love me but alas I do have needs too and I never considered MYSELF in the equation...it was not nice because we lost communication after that and have had none since! I don't know if I'm too demanding or so but I think the physical and the mental aspects of both persons have to jive for a relationship to work...


how sad (about the fact that an LB has to be passable for a long term relationship to work)...for the other LBs who are beautiful in every sense of the word but are not passable!!!!

[Guest]

hi lisa... my take is in perfect world it would not matter if she was passable or not... but in world we live in it does matter because if she fully 'passes' the relationship would be considered normal and socially acceptable...for a lot of the guys on the site that are like me, the big turn on is that the beautiful girl is really a male.. but i do not cosider myself gay.. men do absolutely nothing for me.. but a pretty LB like you and all the other LBs of your country and SE asia, it is a huge turn on for me... i would even think about marrying the right LB.. she would have to pass 100$.. you see lisa for a lot of guys like me it is the beauty thing.. i don't like ugly woman and i don't like non-passable LBs... and lisa to be totally honest with you.. when i am with a pretty LB over thailand, it is as though i am with a pretty real girl... i never never think of her a male.. she is a girl all the way.. sure she has a penis but to me it is a larger version of the female clit...and my sexual activity is fairly str8.. she is the girl and i am the guy... so i hope i have explained how i feel toward LBs and it gives a little better understanding of how i view you beautiful LBs.. in fact lisa a few months back i post a topic called the third sex... which i think you would find as interesting read...

i also really liked stoogies post on this topic.. because he is right.. there tens of thousands ladyboys in se. asia and they all don't work in bars... some day i hope find a Lb that is not in the sex industry and i damn well would give it good go... rod

[liisawinkler]

oh is that so? well I hope you have lots of luck in finding the right LB Mr. Rod44! and well as to LBs not working in bars that is definitely a big possibility as there are many LBs who are well-educated, well-financed and still beautiful throughout SE Asia! You could have your pick among many here!

[Mai-Kee]

It's actually like a coming out for the lover, but in a more difficult way than for a gay man. If you are stuck in a certain job like director of a bank, executive of a big company, lawyer, etc. and in a social environment that is quite conservative, you simply can't have an open relationship to a LB. It's actually still tough to come out as a gay man, but people got used to it over the years and they learned how to deal with it. Being a LB lover is simply not tolerated by society. You're seen a s a pervert, a freak by most of the people. That counts for the western world as well as for LOS either. But everything depends actually on the environment you're living in - not the country!
Because on the other hand if you are hangin around with all the arty guys, filmmakers, photographers, fashion people, etc. nobody could care less. Or if you are independent, self-employed, have a bar or a restaurant, a small shop, a gas station - it' the same, you could do whatever you want.
So it's mainly not because of that there is anything different in the LB's or the admirers character that makes a relationship impossible - it's simply the society that doesn't accept it - not yet!
Sad, but true!

MK

[Guest]

shit all this relationship stuff has little chance of working and here are the reasons,1 most "relationships are based on money if you "date a hooker" and lets be fair most ladyboys are hookers for one reason or another . Im not looking down on them for doing that work. best job in the world.
But unless you have money" the guy" then forget it you wont get a shemale to even glance at you.most in the west are just so far up them selfs that i would'nt even glance at them hahahahha.
But asia is asia and im afraind money is money and everything else is bull shit .
i never really have an interest in a relationship as they never seem to work and allways seem to end up in fights quarrels etc and always cost the man alot of money
so i go to asia and when i leave i leave asian behind
just my thoughts on relationships and why i recon they wont work
donnnnnny

[Guest]

donnnny ... I disagreeeee

I think it is tough for relationships to work, whatever the sexual orientation. I think money is an excuse (as is 'love' which seems to take on a different manifestation for each party involved). The fact is that we dump a lot of demands on these things we call relationships. They've got to:

(1) work on a sexual level
(2) work on a friendship level
(3) work on a professional, career level
(4) share enough communication, friends, interests and so forth to have a healthy long term dynamic.

I don't think this was always so. Marriages were arranged, or ordained by the church (still the case in rural India and Utah) and there was no love or communication, just duty and shared religion.

We have incredible freedom of choice by historical standards, and a lot of complexity comes with that.

Ladyboys bring a whole new set of virtues and challenges to that equation. For one, thier sexuality is more like a man's, and I (for one) really like that. For another, they are so unusual that they are almost never accepted professionally (as Bali-ken notes). Together these add a whole new dimension of tension to any 'relationship'

Many people think money will solve all their problems, or are frustrated because they don't have enought. This colors our prejudices about LBs, since our contacts are often with LBs in the bar industry.

That's why it's neat to have Lisa in this forum, to get her ideas. She obviously has a good head on her luscious and nubile body (sorry, got carried away).

Keep up the communiques from Cebu Lisa!

[Guest]

whatever dr john but we dont live in india or utah. and im afraid i stick bye what i said . and that is that if a relationship is based on money as most are in the ladyboy sceen they will nearly allways fail. relationships are about love not money. i personally have had enough of relationships as they are too much like hard work for small returns. so i choose to fuck hookers. i get what i want they getmy money. after the root there is none of the usuall crap about relationships etc.
i stick by what i said relationships based on money willl not work. There are many ways of smoothing over the whore girlfriend relationships , different aproaches to getting money etc. but they allways fail
donnnnny

[Guest]

Point taken donnny. This is essentially what stogie was saying; that we create our own problems by expecting a bargirl relationship to be something else.

And my earlier point ... this is entertainment.