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    For me it was a great two weeks in Bangers but also so depressing in how things are changing for the worse. It's not only this crackdown getting even worse with now the Grace shut at 2am as well as all the counterfeit stuff gone plus a lot heavier police presence but also the way the prices are going thru the roof and the way the girls attitudes are changing. It seems all ST now for both normal girls as well as ladyboys and they all want big baht for a declining service, it seems they think they're doing us a service although I must say the ladyboys attitude is no where near as bad as the normal girls. A Heineken is now 125bt in most Nana gogo's now and that is simply taking the piss, I wonder if the fact that these bars charging 125bt were empty most nights is simply people saying enough is enough. When you factor in a few beers at 125bt a ladydrink or 2 at 90bt then a 600bt barfine , maybe a ST room at 300bt and then the girls tip at anything between a 1000bt and skywards Bangkok is now an expensive place to have a good time.
    Even some of the girls on this site have an overinflated opinion of their worth as one night I called Anna and she asked 3000bt for a ST to which I politely declined, I paid Natalie 2500bt and that to me was top baht and there was no way in my mind that Anna would be better than Natalie. I think some of these girls want to get back into the real world as 3000bt for a ST is taking the piss and I wonder what the daily rate per day for picking rice is ? Because the way the numbers of sex tourists are declining then some of these girls are going to get a right nasty shock soon. I myself am already changing my plans next year from 5 trips in the year to 3 as it's simply becoming too expensive to justify and when you couple it with the worsening attitudes Thailand is no longer the paradise it was a few years back.
    Of course things weren't all that bad or depressing as I had some fabulous sex with some great girls both from this site and girls not on it. My all time favourite was Natalie , whilst everyone knows she is a superstar she hasn't got a superstars attitude and is just a lovely girl , although the girl I found the most sexy was a girl called Pim. She was not the Obsession's Pim but one I saw at the Honey one night plus on patrol outside Nana a few nights, I got her mobile number and called her up and not only has she a beautiful face but an incredible body , she said she is on this site but I couldn't recognise her. Other girls I liked include Jiep the girl from Dundee bar who was nice and cute and had a good attitude, Talisha was a great way to break the ice so to speak and Kiki was nice as well, Rita from Obsessions was ok but got bitchy when she saw me out front of Nana butterflying, Linda was nice but very powerful but in the second week I was mainly going with girls I had met myself and not necessarily from this site. I had one or two dissapointments with the girls but as I said in a previous report it's not fair to name names as it can be a personal thing and not every guy hits it off with every girl. It's true what Jon says when he advises about organising things too much in advance and the best way I feel is to just look for the girls that you like in person rather than ones you look at pictures of. I had my best times apart from Natalie with girls I actually met in person first and got to know personally.
    Despite the changing scene in Bangkok I still had a good time and enjoyed it a lot but for my next trip to Thailand at Christmas it will be back to Pattaya and I'll give Bangkok a miss.

  • #2
    Doesn't sound that promising.....
    I wonder what kind of LOS I'll find when I go there next time in spring 2004. Maybe I bounce over to Cebu, seems to be more fun there and at least the wonderful Salma seems to be worth a visit anyway!

    MK
    PS: ...by the way: Which of the Anna's of this site did you try to date, Tonio?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdXtf-GHvU

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    • #3
      hey man... i wonder if the Pim you were with was the same Pim that i was with one night.. i saw Pim outside nana at closing time.. she is about 5'4", 50kgs, with reddish brown hair... i never seen this girl on any websites at all. if fact when i first took her i actually thought she was G-girl..

      Pim was a great time in bed and i have often wondered if the pretty Lb would show up again on somebody radar screen.. if it sounds like the same girl please let me know..

      it also sounds like NEP is turning into another petpong.. the huge price increases will make alot of farangs like me migrate down to pattaya.. i love bkk, but only parts of the city.. NEP has always been one of my favorites places in the entire world... be there in three weeks and i will see for myself..rod

      ps.. is this the anna with the little tatoo on her chest???.. if so 3000st is crazy... what are these girls trying to do!!!!

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      • #4
        Rod I first saw Pim down the Honey but chatted to her outside Nana and she does fit your description so she could be the one but I wouldn't be 100% sure.
        The Anna is the one in the middle of the top row on the opening page , and she has a small tattoo on her tit. I nearly choked when she asked for 3000bt ST and I don't know if anyone is paying this but if they are then they are crackers ,as I paid Pim 1000bt for the ST with her and she was ok with this.

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        • #5
          Hi there,

          Great trip report, I posted a while back about just this sort of "changing of the ways". It is getting more expensive for everything except Padthai it seems - still B20 last time I got it off the street ! But as Tonio graciously put it the girls are getting more mercenary. Both Anna and Benz, great looking girls and pleasant to be with took alot of convincing to take B2000 for a ST and I offered to feed them too ! It is worrying - the idle impersonal shag in the West for $200 for an hour may well be Bangkok bound - I really hope this does not happen. We need to make a stand and make these girls understand that taking this path will reduce their customer base !! Sure lets not be mean with the $$ they deserve the money because of the hardship and discrimination they suffer but hey lets keep it in context - average wage for a Thai graduate per month B14000 on a good job !!!! Factory workers B6-8000/month. I don't mean to be brutal to these heavenly girls who the majority I suspect are forced into prostitution to make the real money to live but there are options out there for these girls to albeit it limited !!! I blame the Japanese myself - all the top girls I know without reservation say that it is the pissed up jap that willingly pays the green and half the time they only get a bj for there generous payouts ! Apparently, the period trick works everytime I have it on good authority from a Superstar ! She managed to spend over 1 week with this total dickhead without him getting within a foot of her gorgeous pink ring !!! Lucky for her and a well earned break for her fabulous butt as most guys go straight for the butt pounding session with this angel make no mistake there fellas ! That's not to say there are not western dickheads out there to but I see and hear things that I cannot ignore. I don't know what the answers are but the nips aswell as certain idiots in our quarter need to sort themselves out before they fuck it up for all concerned - why do we continue to ignore history - a bad egg is a bad egg.

          Bricktop


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          • #6
            thanks for the great trip report Tonio, and I am happy  to hear that at least MOST of the girls you wanted to hook up from the site were good to you.  and  I agree 100% that Natalie has no attitude;  she COULD  have one and probably would if she lived in London or New York, but the fact is she doesn't...just a great kid.

                You and Bricktop  raise some fears that have becoming all too evident lately; this raising  cost for services.  I posted something a week  ago  about an Obsessions girl  who told me that the  customers from this site didn't pay enough because she was only getting 1500-2000 for short time!  that's crap......1500-2000 is a great rate and they should all be happy with that for  short.  I read some other message boards and the guys say that they still pay 500 for ST and 1000 for  LT and they get away with it; I really don't see how these days.  These girls are getting greedy and that really  blows. try and hold the line, guys; i know that I will.

             Thanks for making the comment  about not making big plans when going to the LOS; as I have repeated many times up here, the guys who go there with large expectations about meeting the girl from their dreams on this site are usually let down.   doesn't always mean that the girl was horrible in bed; just means that  the guy may have set the bar too high with his  visions of her and  expected more than he got.  happens all the time and I still say the best way to travel in Thailand is with no plan at all;  you are guaranteed to have fun, no matter what.  What you said about the  pervading police pressence and the girls' attitudes and the early bar closings, etc, is all very depressing and I was especially worried when you said you would be taking less and less trips to Thailand;  that is my favorite place in the whole world and I hope i never get so down about it that I want to stay away.

             The Pim you are talking about is  here;
            http://www.asian-ts.com/members/jan_pim/index.html

              I actually like that one also; very small and petite, cute face, really innocent;  freelances out of the  Honey Bar and on Lower Sukhimvit.

              thanks again for the true but sad report

            Jon



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            • #7
              Jon,
              those pics don't do Pim justice at all, she is far nicer looking in person and has a fabulous body in every way.

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              • #8
                funny, I hear that a lot about several of the models.....is it a testament to the fact that we are not capturing their true beauty on film or just that they look better in person? I think the latter; the truth is, when you see these beautiful angels in person, they just florr you with their beauty and style and grace, and no camera can catch that.

                I agree with you about freelancer Pim; we have been together a few times and she is a rare gem.

                Jon

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                • #9
                  hey jon and tonio.... damn guys that is not the Pim i was with .. i met Pim at 0230am in front of nana.. all i know is the little girl followed me around for half hour constantly nagging me to go with her.. the best part about my story is i really thought this little sweet Pim was a girl at the time... i was looking for a particular LB that morning and our meeting place got screwed up.. well to get back to my Pim, her persistence paid off and i took her up to my room at the nana... it was in the elevator that i realised that Pim was a ladyboy..

                  once she was comfortable with the fact i liked LBs, Pim was totally fantastic in bed... Jon this girl is a real stunner.. you know how i like my LBs, sweet and petite... Pim was the total package... her english was terrible, but thru my trusted dictionary i learned that Pim was a student and worked .. i told her to call me because i wanted to see her again but Pim never called me back...which is unheard of in thailand... i gave her 500bt tip on top of the 1000bt st price.. so Pim seemed to happy when she left my room... so this a real mystery to me guys.. i never seen this girl anywhere on the web...and what amazes me even more is that i rarely get fooled about thinking a LB is a G-girl.. i hope i can run her down on my next trip... this mysterious Pim would be great addition to your site.. Pim had the body like chompoo, the smile of Aon, and she had that raw sexuality of a Joy... where is this sweet little Pim, or was all a dream ... all i know is i will try to find the elusive Pim in november... rod

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                  • #10
                    Rod,
                    I don't if we are talking 2 Pims here as I've studied Jons pictures and I'd swear that is not her and I would say many a guy exiting Nana Plaza at 2am might be fooled into thinking she was a GG.

                    Rgds,

                    T.

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                    • #11
                      het tonio... it is a msytery.. i will look thru all the galleries in the site and post the girl Pim looks the most like.. all i can is that PIm had medium length reddish brown hair, a great smile, small hormonal tits, 5'4' or so, around 50kgs, an absolutely totally girlish voice.. that is what fooled me i think.. her voice was so femmine.. but her english was non-existant.. however tonio, Pim was a great kisser and she had partially shaved bush.. she was groomed..and she couldn't have been over 22 or 23 yrs old... i will let you if i find her again... if we are talking about the same LB. maybe she left the fantastic impression on you that PIm left on me.. rod

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                      • #12
                        Fuck if the price is 3000 then guys are paying it tying to buy affection with big money Never fucking works. I pay 1000 bhat for a short time and i hate 600 bhat bar fines there fucking rude. as are the drink prices. its cheaper to buy a beer in sydney.This is typical asian behavior push things to the max .i stopped going to thailand on a regular basis a few years ago as i think they have tickets on em selfs. But the only reason for that is because we spoil em.
                        i hate all these guys who send girls money and think they will stay true lmao.
                        wake up you dick heads. Tonio i agree with you on all your topics. i stopped fucking ggs from go go bars years ago because there fucking usless, i will pay bar fines for ladyboys, buit usually i get there telephone number and call em round. !00% sucsess rate. ive always liked the freelance system its much better. slowly thailand will sink into the myer of greed. the thing thats attractive was the price but once it gets to expensice its back to the paddy fields for all the upstarts . where they will get 100 batt a day for working there guts out

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                        • #13
                          Despite the potential of Tonio roasting me once again about pricing, I have to say that most of his complaining is just whining, shared with other customers. I don't have a problem with that, but let's put things in economic perspective. The rate that LBs can charge us is (1) a matter of supply and demand; both of us and of LBs; (2) we come for entertainment; (3) they do it for a variety of reasons: money, status, good time, lack of alternatives, desire to be with us. I think think in a social culture like Thailand, all of these matter, and the money may be just as much a matter of bragging rights with the other bargirls as anything else.

                          We are all selfish in our own ways. My claim is that I want to be entertained, and I'm willing to pay for it. These girls don't have to love me ... in that respect, I think Jeff (#69 not #1) is a bit of a dweeb for empathizing with bar girls' personal traumas. Tonio is right; they're not going to respect you for it. On the other hand, as long as this is their business, they need to make sure that their clients are entertained.

                          It's not about buying affection, it's about entertainment

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                          • #14
                            crap dr john in most cases guys throwing money at bar girls are doing it to buy affection. It dont work they just laugh at the wankers who do it(throw money at em)
                            sure we go for entertainment or what ever else you want to call it , but if the price aint right i go somewhere else . for an hours work 3000 bhat is sky high in a third world country like thailand. how much does an educated office type girl get for a months salery then you have it in perspectice
                            cheers
                            donnny

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