A worrying trend

[mardhi]

In NEP last night Monkeyman and I were playing 'lets avoid the damn show' and trying without much success to actually look at some pretty LB's dancing in bikini however the powers that be seemed destined to thwart our efforts as every bar we went in, we suddenly found some shows starting. We had in our company the delightfull Ae from Obsession who is still contemplating getting the full SRS operation and so we said in desperation lets go and look in Vodoo and play spot the post op. Part of this idea was to get away from the show and partly to try and demonstrate to Ae that a post op life is not a road lined with gold and could possibly lead to economic disaster as suddenly she goes head to head with real girls in a real girls bar.

So into Voodoo we go, where we are led to believe there are 6 post op LB's. Well Monkeyman and myself could not see any and so we asked Ae - where are the LB's then. "oh they all go already" she replied. "what all of them?" I said looking around a bar at midnight that must have still had 25 dancers and not many punters. Ae goes off, we thought to the toilet but then comes back with a savvy gay looking Thai in a fetching red silk jacket and introduces him as the mamasan for Voodoo. He sits with us and we ask him the same question. Now get this, he confirmed that there are 6 post ops in the bar - all but one were already off and the single one he brought over who was quite sweet but already dressed so she had been and come back to the bar already. He then went on to tell us that the Post ops generally have a far greater off rate than the girls in Voodoo and the top performer has an average of 60 barfines in any month - I nearly fell of the chair - 60 barfines is unreal - apparently she is 20 and is by all accounts making an absolute fortune according to the mamasan. he would love to get more Post ops as they generate so much cash income for the bar. So there you have it - in Nana at least and Voodoo in particular, the post ops are easily beating the girls in the barfine volume and earnings game.

of course this was all music to Ae's ears as she said "I keep telling you this - when I make operation I will make big money" - unfortunately for us, our arguement of ending up with no money does not seem to stand up. Perhaps we should just shut up and let her get on with it but I for one was really surprised to hear this from the mamasan who had no axe to grind - he has both GG's and post op LB's in the bar - he does not care who gets barfined so long as they do and he was totally clear in his mind that the post ops do way more business than the regular girls.

Cheers
Mardhi

[stogie bear]

Good post, mardhi...

I can well believe it. Post ops are much easier on the eye in bars than GGs. Better dancers, much much sexier etc.

[Tomcat]

I agree

also
many real lookers go to Singapore once they have had
the Op. All the decent posties in KC3 have done there tour of duty in Romeo or Crazy Horse or some other rip off joint .

Fai, An, Sabai, Jean, Poom .....the list goes on

[brocklanders]

I think most of the Japanese and farang tourists have no clue it is a post op when they barfine them. They basically are the only girls in the group who have fake tits and are taller than the other girls. As I have said before, usually the best looking and most passable LB's become post op.

Want a hot looking stripper-type with big fake tits but dont want the nasty tool box? PICK A POST OP

[Randyman]

(brocklanders @ Jun. 29 2006,11:38) Want a hot looking stripper-type with big fake tits but dont want the nasty tool box?  PICK A POST OP

...And exactly what kind of "toolbox" does a postie have??

RM

[Road Runner]

(Randyman @ Jun. 29 2006,16:45) ...And exactly what kind of "toolbox" does a postie have??

They've got a box you can put your tool in  


I'm not sure I'd quite agree with Brocklanders that 'most tourists' can't tell the post-ops but certainly from what some of the girls have said many cannot.

Also a couple of the girls I've met have suggested that some Japanese actively seek out post-op ladyboys. Don't know why though.

RR.

[Guest]

I'll be interested to see this thread track the same girl after her surgery and see how show likes the money and her personal sex life afterwards.

Please do keep us posted.

[JackG]

As to whether or not that mama-san "didn't have an axe to grind" I doubt it. The he/she mama-san was telling the girl what she wanted to hear.
Those figures, GG vs 6 post-ops and the post-ops getting bar-fined more than the GG are completely ridiculous. Find out who their customers are and there is your answer. Go over to KCIII and you will see the post-op customers are, mostly, the Japanese/Taiwanese Tourists. Every post-op I've talked to regrets, after a couple of years, having the chop and has to work in a cabaret show as they can no longer make a living selling their ass. Once they cut it off they are just another girl and Thailand has millions of beautiful real girls with self-lubricating vaginas.
If you are looking for pussy, what could possibly be the appeal of a post-op?

[brocklanders]

OK...I have said this a hundred times but will say again.

Why would a man want a post op?

1. Fake tits...rarely do thai girls have tits. 95% of girls with fake tits are ladyboys.

2. Automatic anal. Very hard to find girls that will do anal but post ops will do anal most of the time but there are those that want to test out their new pussy.

3. They are taller than girls

4. Plastic surgery can make their faces more beautiful than actual girls sometimes.

5. Sex with a condom gives you very little pleasure with a real pussy. When you are wearing a condom, sex with a post op is similar to a real pussy only the post op has a tighter pussy...so kind of like nailing a virgin. Those of you with giant tools will not be pleased.

The caveat to this is that there is no question that sex bareback with a real pussy is a better feeling than any type of sex with a post op. Never barebacked a post op but can't imagine it feeling better than a naturally wet real pussy. The problem is that AIDS is still a factor in LOS so I wrap it up no matter what. Indonesia and Philippines is a different story, girls there get angry when you use a condom....real girls that is. And sex bareback anal is a nono no matter who the partner is.

[stogie bear]

Indonesia and Philippines is a different story, girls there get angry when you use a condom....

I did not know that! I live and learn!

If you are looking for pussy, what could possibly be the appeal of a post-op?

I agree JackG... but I'm looking for great sex, NOT pussy!

Those figures, GG vs 6 post-ops and the post-ops getting bar-fined more than the GG are completely ridiculous.

The figures sound very believable to me from the limited experience that I have from the Post Ops that I know that are working in GG bars.

The Posties dance better, have better Englsih and are sexier than the pudgy flabby out of shape GGs that infest nana. And they get repeat customers all the time too because the sex is great! GGs are starfish and don't know how to get men off. Posties know every trick.

[JackG]

Brocklanders,
Most of the reasons you state above are exactly the reasons I do not find them attractive.
I don't like plastic tits, regardless of who they are on. Small tits are fine.  Never understood why some guys go crazy over huge cow utter tits. Gross. Like a huge cock, nice to look at, but what can you do with it, but look at it, unless you have an asshole and mouth the size of the Grand Canyon, or them, in the case of tits.

Good hot, tight pussy (not hard to find in LOS) beats anal anytime.

Taller!? Not at all attractive to me. The taller the, generally, less feminine, real or ladyboy.  I want a ladyboy that looks like a woman, not a guy. If I wanted to fuck someone my size I would have to consider going fag.
The only exception to this I've found is, Aoy. A true lady. Much more than many of today's "real" women.

Plastic surgery? More fakery. More comestic coverups and usually obvious. I prefer the natural look in real women and in ladyboys just enough make up to bring out the feminine features.

Much of this is subjective, that is personal preference, but Item 5, is totally subjective on your part. I've fucked post-ops with and without condoms and real pussy in better with a condom.  The fake pussy is damn near cold to the touch as compared to other parts of the body and I've never seen one as tight as a real Thai girl's pussy.  I agree with most of your last paragraph.

Stogie,
> The Posties dance better,

Disagree. One reason I don't spend much time in ladyboy a-go-go-s is I find it pathetic to near disgusting, as most of them look like boys trying to look like women trying to dance.  Very sad.  Seen very few that can dance like a real woman.  A man's pelvis cannot move in the same way as a woman's and it is very plain to see when they try and dance.
There is a post-op ladyboy who is part owner of a popular NEP real girl a-gogo and she is so high on her opinion of herself she occasionally dances in the nightly routines wearing a mask thinking no one knows it is her.  It is so painfully hard to watch I usually go to the toilet when she dances.

> have better Englsih and are sexier than the pudgy

Yes, ladyboys in general do speak better English, but sexier? No, for reasons stated above.

> GGs are starfish and don't know how to get men off.
> Posties know every trick.

Yes, many GGs are starfish, but not all, and, no, not all post-ops know every trick. In los the sex is generally better with ladyboys, but the worst sexual experience of my life was with a BKK ladyboy by the name of Mon who worked at KCIII 2-4 years ago. Second worst was Sia or Sigh who works at Hi Boss in Pattaya.
In The States they are a total waste of time and money. Only two I've met had any idea how to give a blowjob. Such a waste of money you would be better off putting the cash in an ashtray and jack off while watching it burn.

[Guest]

Real pussy is nicer than the plastic ones.....

[katoeylover]

(JackG @ Jun. 30 2006,01:34) Most of the reasons you state above are exactly the reasons I do not find them attractive.

Unfortunately for you, as there are many customers who do find them attractive.

And yes, they do make more money post-op than pre-op, whether we like it or not.

Most of them toy with the idea of the op because they know they will make more money afterwards.

[Mai-Kee]

This is a weired thing. The typical LB lover goes for pre-ops - that's a fact! But still the posties make more money. So it must be other  guys who do them. But who? Who is this large target group that goes for posties?  And I'm sure it is a certain group and not regular gg punters that want to try something new. Maybe POL can enlighten that?
In Thailand it's for sure not because of the tits as most of the gg's have fake tits as well. Anal sex? Hahaha.... you can't be sure with that, Brockie.... all gg hookers do anal sex in LOS... ALL!!! .... and because of the attraction of a mutilated hole that is in 90% not working.... well, there is a fetish group for everything, but I doubt it that the fetish guys for mutilation make such a large target group. I'd say those who love one legged women are bigger. Better looking, sexier.... don't buy that either. The girls are stunners in general. When you go for instance to Long Gun or one of the Pussy licking shows in Patty, you get 18 year old Laotian girls who are breathtaking!
But there must be an answer, as it's for sure right that posties do better business than pre-ops! Same in Amsterdam for instance. The postie hookers make double money than the pre-ops!

MK

[stogie bear]

This is a weired thing. The typical LB lover goes for pre-ops - that's a fact! But still the posties make more money.

That's easy to answer...

We are comparing posties with GGs and posties win every time.

Now - if you compare pre-ops to post-ops the pre-ops will win everytime because they are chased by ladyboy lovers not pussy lovers!