Ex Is Engaged

[donnnnnny]

some good points there rob. the passion thing is , the real deal especially in south america and indonesia.i love the comment of "western women scam incorporated. spot on. fucking waist of time totally.
see you in may drooling over a beer watching the fuk wit white women walking buy, and chassing fucking hot babes from thailand

[rob69in]

donnnnnny,

  where in the LOS will you be in May. I'm moving around a bit?

   By far the best Misery Watch is in Phuket, Patong Beach Bangla road Soi Katoey, with Pattaya walking street a close second. Western women gorping at something they will never be, sexy & attractive !!.

      to a meeting in May.

[Guest]

[stogie bear]

(gunslinger @ Apr. 03 2006,15:15) Stogie, erm I hope i've got this right but havent you done the same thing, ie had/have relationship with former bar girl?

I am seeing a former bar girl, it's true. But love, marriage and kids? He he!

[gunslinger]

Western women gorping at something they will never be, sexy & attractive !!.

Yep, thats about it, and forever up for it

[snejana_demientrovska]

well ive been in love before and well i was heartbroken after so few months cause it was hard for us both parties to settle on a long term relationship i was trying to make this thing work since the guy was swallowed by the bermuda triangle it was hard for me to accept is cause i still fell that he loves me. well its was a dream for me to be with a man. and it felt so good thinking what our future will be. well one thing i always think of leaving the country and finish my college in thier place and at the same time i would work inorder i could help my family back in the philippines. but it all colapse and i was so devastated for few weeks but still it didnt stop me from loving and look for more guys who could settle a long term relationship and share my life with him.

well i am a slut....................im promiscuous and i love to have sex with different guys well i would love my boyfriend but i want to taste different cocks aside from my boyfriend....

well all i dont care if i have to leave my country and settle with my guy. and i dont want to depend on my boyfriend for such financial shit just to give percentage on my family as much as i get out of my country which is a poor country and no future at all i would settle for a job and finish a degree.... inorder that time when things get messy with my BF i would easily leave him and file a devorce cause i can already survive on my own and another thing i dont want to go out of my country and having an impression with some of my friends or people who knows me thinking that im prostituting and escorting in another country that why i got rich ..........its not a good idea for me and also i want to blend into a high class society

im very much into long term relationship and well i just hope guys will treat me well cause on mistake then bye bye.........im not a kid anymore

[stogie bear]

You tell it like it is, darlin'!

I love it when a virgin talks dirty!

[Guest]

I have a long history with Thailand and Asia in general. My attraction to ladyboys is relatively new: about 5 years. I met a lady 18 years ago who was working in a clothing shop in Phuket and at night she did hang out at a bar, but I wouldnt call her a hard core bar girl at all. After a year we got married and she came to live with me in California. One year later we brought her two daughters. We had a very good marraige that lasted more than 16 years. We are now divorced but very good friends and even thinking about reuniting. In the meantime I have been with about 20 ladyboys and a few of them have become friends and steady lovers although I have no plans to marry them. My opinion is that if you understand the culture and make a serious effort to speak the language you can have a stable relationship with a Thai. Like many have said, to work in a bar, while not a noble thing, is a sign of strength and independance. Such a past is varied from person to person and generalizations about the failure of foreigner and bar girl or ladyboy relationships are often true, but there are many many exceptions.

[mardhi]

I'm with Stogie on this one - I have lived here for nearly 6 years and been working all that time. I am one of the lucky expats that got dropped into Thailand on a by Western standards, good salary and by Thai standards, an obscene salary. However and I have been here before, the biggest factor in a relationship with a former BG is the jealousy/trust issue. It tears relationships apart from both sides. The guy is always wondering who is emailing the girl, telephoning her etc and the girl is always wondering when your out with your mates, who are you screwing in a ST room. It really is difficult to get over that hurdle and thats with a girl. Add a highly strung for the most part, ladyboy into the equation and its a disaster waiting to happen.

Really the issues of money are secondary, it all boils down to trust. Take some of the superstars, who have recently got 'attached' - for how long are their boyfriends/fiance going to be happy that his girl has 200 od naked pictures plasted on countless websites for all and sundry to see and comment over. You can bet that old customer XX is willing to dangle 5,000 baht just for one more night of passion with the lovely whateverhernameis, and then funny enough he goes and posts his exploits on a LB forum.

Really guys you have to understand this - it is the biggest factor in break-ups in relationships in Thailand from what I can see - neither party trusts each other - the girl suddenly gets worried her income is going to dry up and so looks up her old contacts on the internet - things compound - the BF gets tempted one night in Nana, the GF hears about it from 6 friends who all witnessed it - she loses face and the shit really hits the fan.

Good luck to everyone who tries it - some can, but most cannot - and the blame is often split both ways. Incidentally this dream of moving to some remote part of issan and living a quiet life is for the most part unrealistic - sooner rather than later, you get so bored - my god, I'm bored up there even before I have left Bangkok and I do speak Thai, but frankly I have nothing in common with family members who just sit around drinking, no job, no life experience and have never gone further than the next village but know your now the wealthiest guy in the community (whether you are or not is academic - these people aint to hot at credit ratings). to occupy your time, you think lets build a nice little house - well what do you do once thats done? Who do you talk too? you end up going mad.

Cheers
Mardhi

[snejana_demientrovska]

well have you seen the movie "Prinscisa"

well its about a brazilian transsexuall who went to milan and try to find a job and to earn money for her transexual operations or SRS but she end up in the streets and work as a prostitute and save money for the operation and few percentage for her family in brazil. well he hooke up with an Italian businessman thinking she was a girl but he discover that he was a ladyboy but after that he fell inlove with prinscisa and they end up in relationship the guy was married and divorce her wife just to live with prinscisa and the ladyboy was in love also with the guy and they live together and also the guy sponsor her for the operation but months after the divorce they thought they were a happy coupple but suddenly she was challenge when the ex-wife of his boyfriend showed up and told her she was preagnant........well then she was devasted and she has no choice but to commint suicide but after long soulsearching she end up back in the street as a hooker and she was happy having such life of being a pre-opt shemale and a hooker

anyways guys if you want to see such movie
find it on BKK's flea market where you see a lot of pirated DVD's


well as for me as a ladyboy and hmmmm some ladyboys are insecure with themselves that is why we easily get green with envy

well we are insecure and we get jelous easily
cause of some factor that sometimes guys will leave us suddenly cause they realize that they want a children of thier own and we cant provide that and maybe our boyfriend will find a girl to have family and settle with

insecure of the fact that our boyfriend is tired of sucking cock and maybe he wants some pussy
insecure of the fact that maybe he would see another more beautiful and stunning ladyboys he could have fun with

that is why most of the ladyboys are coldblooded prostitute and all they thing is how much cash they get from a guy who fucks them cause they dont want to expereince having a feeling. afraid that it would hurt them just like a real nature of mans ego

well as for myself im ok with long term relationship happy if i get married and settle down......cause all i want to seek is attention. the good feeling that a mans sees me as so important and most of all i want to feel like a 100% natural woman

[stogie bear]

(mardhi @ Apr. 04 2006,03:17) I'm with Stogie on this one - I have lived here for nearly 6 years and been working all that time.    I am one of the lucky expats that got dropped into Thailand on a by Western standards, good salary and by Thai standards, an obscene salary.     However and I have been here before, the biggest factor in a relationship with a former BG is the jealousy/trust issue.   It tears relationships apart from both sides.   The guy is always wondering who is emailing the girl, telephoning her etc and the girl is always wondering when your out with your mates, who are you screwing in a ST room.    It really is difficult to get over that hurdle and thats with a girl.   Add a highly strung for the most part, ladyboy into the equation and its a disaster waiting to happen.      

Really the issues of money are secondary, it all boils down to trust.    Take some of the superstars, who have recently got 'attached' - for how long are their boyfriends/fiance going to be happy that his girl has 200 od naked pictures plasted on countless websites for all and sundry to see and comment over.   You can bet that old customer XX is willing to dangle 5,000 baht just for one more night of passion with the lovely whateverhernameis, and then funny enough he goes and posts his exploits on a LB forum.    

Really guys you have to understand this - it is the biggest factor in break-ups in relationships in Thailand from what I can see - neither party trusts each other - the girl suddenly gets worried her income is going to dry up and so looks up her old contacts on the internet - things compound - the BF gets tempted one night in Nana, the GF hears about it from 6 friends who all witnessed it - she loses face and the shit really hits the fan.  

Good luck to everyone who tries it - some can, but most cannot - and the blame is often split both ways.     Incidentally this dream of moving to some remote part of issan and living a quiet life is for the most part unrealistic - sooner rather than later, you get so bored - my god, I'm bored up there even before I have left Bangkok and I do speak Thai, but frankly I have nothing in common with family members who just sit around drinking, no job, no life experience and have never gone further than the next village but know your now the wealthiest guy in the community (whether you are or not is academic - these people aint to hot at credit ratings).   to occupy your time, you think lets build a nice little house - well what do you do once thats done?     Who do you talk too?   you end up going mad.

Cheers
Mardhi

Thanks for putting into words what I couldn't be arsed to! Great post.
PM, email or call me when you are close to Bangkok.

[Stewart]

well i am a slut....................im promiscuous and i love to have sex with different guys

I have no idea what the rest of your post was about, but maybe we could meet sometime to discuss it?

[Guest]

Reading all this I keep thinking about something JaiDee said.

I can imagine fucking all these girls, I can't imagine having a relationship with them. I'm in college (again) in the US and I have a hard enough time finding women who are intelligent, educated, and witty enough to talk to.

To try to find a westernized woman who can talk about economics, politics, religion, philosophy, current events, etc. is difficult as it is.  I don't doubt LBFM's have western women beat by a mile in terms of being sweet and feminine, but I find it very hard to believe that they would be intellectual equals.

I'm sure half a dozen people are going to respond trying to tell me how all these LB's would win on Jeopardy and love to discuss Ontological Empiricism, but you've got a long row to hoe if you're trying to convince me of that.

I have no doubt a lot of guys want a woman who will just be sweet and walk three steps behind him (figuratively if not literally). I might as well throw down the gauntlet and say that's what is behind a lot of this anti-western women stuff. Guys who have low self-esteem and frankly don't know how to deal with women who are challenging and close to being their equals. So they go where women roll-over.

Don't forget, they're getting paid to be nice. This is evidenced by the panicked scramble of all the guys when the topic of just picking up non-working girls in the mall in LOS came up. Suddenly the confident macho attitude disappeared and everyone was just as afraid of these girls.

Face it, the truth is dealing with working LB or GG is like shooting fish in a barrel. You are in the service industry. They are going to treat you just like waiters, bartenders, tour guides, and card dealers.  Nice. Because you are the paying tourist.

That doesn't make them inherently superior or nice people. If so, why are so many guys here scared shitless to just go ask the counter girl at the mall for a movie and dinner?  Because then the playing field is leveled - you may do OK, but there's a chance that you may not. And if you've escaped your home country because women's liberation has made the women too intimidating or scary for you and mommy won't let you tug on her apron anymore you go where the women are "easy".

Don't anyone start thinking that Disneyworld means everything is fun and all the people there like you. It's an amusement park, and it's all giggles and shiny smiles as long as you're paying.

I would be willing to say 99 out of 100 women could not interest me whether they are western or otherwise. I have high standards for a personal companion.

Does that mean I wouldn't have a semi-LTR with a LB?  Nope, it means I'd be happy to, but I'd have no illusions about it. It would be easy and breezy for me. The same as dating a 19 or 21 year old girl here in the states. Do you think we're going to have great and deep conversation?  Sheeeee-it.

An LTR with a LB or 21 year old for guys like us is a cop-out. It's a dating vacation. Guys do it because it's EASY for them in one way or another.  Don't even bother arguing that, the costs you gladly give up in one area are because some other area is easy for you. And I'd say 99% of it is the low emotional committment or stunted relationship growth, or the low expectations.

For having said all that, Stogie is the only person who has me convinced that he's legit. But I firmly believe he's the 1% of 1%

When everyone thinks they're going to win the lottery, that's called mass delusion. And it's what keeps the lottery in business.

[PigDogg]

(grunyen @ Apr. 04 2006,23:06) people are going to respond trying to tell me how all these LB's would win on Jeopardy

I'll take Mirrors for 200 Alex.

[katoeylover]

Its always nice to have one special LB, the one who meets you off the plane, looks after you during your trip and says goodbye at the airport when it's time to go home.

To me this is more fun than bedding 20 girls in a fortnight, but it doesn't mean I am getting married or offering to bring her to the UK.

As Mardhi pointed out the other way, what is a Thai Girl going to do in a cold, wet northern town in November? In a country where she can't speak the language (hansum man or 1500 long time doesnt count!!) and her partner is out working 12 hours a day.

I believe the majority of us in this forum are wordly guys and know that the only way to have a real relationship is to live out there full time and someday maybe i will do that. Right now I like the idea that there is someone who is waiting for my arrival, and No, I don't care if she is only after money because she makes me feel a million $ while i am there.