Ex Is Engaged

[trouble999]

guys ever here of april fool

[jellybean]

(stogie bear @ Apr. 01 2006,21:45) This relationship is going no-where. I'll give it a year at the very most, but realistically it's gonna flounder within about 6 to 8 months.

I'll bet my life on it!

Careful SB!

End of this month Kai and I will have been a item for a year....and who would have thought that last April when we first met.

However both Kai and I know that our relationship is marking time, sure we still talking on the phone every night and planning where we'll go on my next vacation BUT we both realise that if our relationship is to progress to the next level we need to live together. So the next 3 to 6 months will be make or break for our relationship. Firstly we're going to try and get her a visa to come here so that we can live together,  and that is IF she can get a visa, and with UK government that is a big IF. But in reality, I think the chances of her enjoying living here are slim to none - cold weather, crap food and being so far from her family and friends. So ultimately, I will be looking at moving over to Thailand. But before I'm prepared to do that I need a job lined up - a sufficient well paid job, that will keep Kai (and me) in a lifestyle we are accustomed to and enable us to support Kai's family.  

Yep, you did read correctly....Support Kai's family...... that is the reason Kai works bar and if I am to have ANY chance of Kai quitting bar  then I have to provide a viable alternative for her.

It makes me laugh the way some of boardmembers expect a girl/LB to stop working bar because of love..... think about for a moment, you are asking these girls to give up providing for their families because some Falang that they've known for a few weeks maybe says he loves her. Sorry guys, blood is thicker than water  and they will always put their family first, wouldn't you? So accept it and deal with it.

Finally, boardmembers talk about bargirls as if they are damaged goods, second class......they are human beings, doing what they have to in order to get by. As somebody said a few weeks ago on this board love should be considered "in spite of" not "because of". -  Kai and I are an item in spite of the fact she works bar.

[Road Runner]

Just in case Ex's ex decides to make her so (ex that is) - a little advice from Neil Simon

50 Ways to leave your teerak.

€œThe problem is you think with your little head€, she said to me
The answer is easy if you Sabai Sabai with me
I€™d like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave your Teerak

She said, €œit€™s really just my nature to give you a big smile€
And I hope my presence will relieve you for awhile
So I repeat myself in the hopes of staying with you Kyle
There must be fifty ways to leave your Teerak; fifty ways to leave your Teerak
Just tell her your broke, bloke, go to Samui, Louie
Don't need to move slow, Joe, just listen to me
Go stark raving mad, Tad, don't worry about acting sad
Just talk about the Pee (ghost), Lee, and set yourself free
She said €œI€™d like to help you if you€™ll just listen awhile to me€ Cum inside me and all your troubles will go free,
Just remember this all comes with a small fee
I said, I appreciate that, but would you please explain about the fifty ways
She said, "why don't I just suck on you tonight"
And I believe, in the morning you'll begin to see the light
And then she rode me €˜til I realized she was right
There must be fifty ways to leave your Teerak; fifty ways to leave your Teerak
I€™m going to Nana, Ana, drinking at the Pong, Nong
I€™ve got HIV, We, just listen to me
I want a new toy, Oy, I don€™t want to be coy, Noi
Just give me my key, Bee, and let me go free


Borrowed from Stickman  Getting and leaving

RR.

[PigDogg]

Hop on the bahtbus Gus,
Or the tuk tuk Duke,
Up the poop chute Luke,

[rob69in]

(jellybean @ Apr. 02 2006,17:44) Finally, boardmembers talk about bargirls as if they are damaged goods, second class......they are human beings, doing what they have to in order to get by. As somebody said a few weeks ago on this board love should be considered "in spite of" not "because of". -  Kai and I are an item in spite of the fact she works bar.

Jellybean,

well said, I am sick to death of people who treat the population of various countries without an ounce of respect for them, & yet they are the guest. Sit around in Pattaya / Phuket / Bangkok & just observe the clientel for a while, regular visitors will know exactly waht I am talking about !!

While I am a "whorist" I try hard to treat my chosen partener of the day / evening as if they are my soul mate & proper girlfriend, not some product i picked up off the supermarket shelf. The only reason I don't stick with one GG / LB for an extended LT, is because I will start to fall for them. Then,.... times up, on the plane sad as hell.

[Road Runner]

(rob69in @ Apr. 02 2006,20:47) I am sick to death of people who treat the population of various countries without an ounce of respect for them, & yet they are the guest.

Hello Rob69in,

Yes I agree!

As I always say - respect works both ways.

RR.

[rob69in]

I have done a huge amount of travelling & have rarely had any real problems, ( I won't name the countries where problems were innevitable no matter how you treat them !! ). But In Asia & Latin America a little respect & decent treatment goes a long way.

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

I spent three years trying to find that one "special' LB. I was a major butterfly, I made all the the mistakes a guy can make when he gets involved with an LB. I fell for their sob stories, I gave them money, I took them on holidays and for what?. I was looking for love where none existed. Talk about pathetic, I had decided to just blow off any kind of relationship with an LB from a bar, I was going back to my butterfly days and watch out cause I was going to make up for lost time.
Then she smiled at me one night in Cascade Bar, I did not even talk to her that first time. I did not barfine her until seven months later even though I was in her bar four or five times after that first night. Our first time together was like no other time with an LB. For the past sixteen months she has become a big part of my life. We have taken it very slow, I do not want to fuck this up, she does not want to give her heart to some Farang who might be talking bullshit and I do not blame her one bit. I have made the decision and I know that it is the only one I can make if I am going to know that we are going to have a shot at love. I am selling my home in the Bay Area and this fall I will move to Surin with her. We will rent for six or eight months, get to see what it is like to be together 24/7 and I hope marry. I think that I have found a real gem and I am making the committment to this relationship. If I fail at least I wil know that I gave it my best shot.

[PigDogg]

(PogueMahone @ Apr. 03 2006,08:59)  If I fail at least I wil know that I gave it my best shot.

[donnnnnny]

we all make  some mistakes when it comes to Thailand. i personally just leave the place  where it is when i leave. I'm not looking for a relationship, but i do enjopy paying for a the service provided bye thai girls and shemales.
i have heard millions of  storys of  men from the west being ripped off.fuck there are even some web sights dedicated to guys pooring there hearts out over the rip offs and bitch girls that did it. Well hey thats there fault for being stupid.personally im not intereted in relationships with bar girls or  streight girls  either. i have been in 3 relationships with thai(stait) girls in australia. They are just as  bad as being with a  white girl.Why?? i  dont know ?? maybe im a  right cunt to get on with and maybe thais just cant function out side Thailand???Experiance helps formulate opinions . Most expats are just tooo lazy to learn to speak and read  Thai.(its not that hard if you do it the correct  way).AND THAT IS THE KEY TO FORMULATING A LASTING RELATIONSHIP WITH A  THAI. Anyone intereted in learning thai should buy the book "fundamentals of the thai language' it 's easly to learn the thai alphabet and the vouls. blooody compound vouls are a bit harder.Once you have the  alphabet  you can then start to read  news papers sign's in the street and menu's.Its actually fun.
most expats just hang round the bar sceen and fuck hookers. thats what i do when i go to thailand.I have tryed chassing streight girls, and its  just not worth it with limited time.In september i went out 5 times witha n office girl who drove me all around town in her nice new honda. didnt get me anywhere not even a kiss.
There is also a stigma  for  "streight" thai girls hanging with farangs. most farangs  have whores with them so any thai girl  with a farang  is a whore. thats the way thais see it.
finally  most of us  dumb farangs judge thais by our own values . . there completly different and i doubt  that  an average  farang could ever really beguin to understand  them. whatever.
good luck my friends in which ever endevour you choose. i wish you all the  best and hope you make it work.
 for me well its  just fuck em and forget em. pay for a service and  leave.i prefer to have no obligations to anyone i meet in thailand. but hey love is a funny fucking thing.:up
don

[stogie bear]

Experiance helps formulate opinions . Most expats are just tooo lazy to learn to speak and read Thai.(its not that hard if you do it the correct way).AND THAT IS THE KEY TO FORMULATING A LASTING RELATIONSHIP WITH A THAI.

I think it's the other way around. It's her English that is key - not your Thai.

I can't even count to 10 and I have no trouble finding girls and lbs who want the whole kit and kaboodle.

The KEY (if you want one) is living here.

[gunslinger]

Stogie, erm I hope i've got this right but havent you done the same thing, ie had/have relationship with former bar girl?

[rob69in]

Its very easy to say that there are many fools out there falling for the GG's & LB's in the LOS, ( & other parts of the world for that matter ) fortunately I have avoided falling into a relationship of any kind. Not that i wouldn't like one, its not going to work while i am dashing around the world & indulging in whatever i can.

BUT......, anyone on this forum who is from the western world will understand the huge difference between western women & Asian / Latina GG's / LB's / TS's. They are far more approachable, far more passionate, far more loving, & a hell of alot better in the sack. Is it any wonder people easily fall for them. The cold materialistic, attitude ridden, gold digging western women make a relationships nigh on impossible unless you are prepared to make all the sacrifices, & then they will just step out taking half your estate with them. Its almost turned into a business in UK. Western women scam LTD, as the law assits them to rob you of your assets without a second thought.

So when someone is nice to you, treats you well, is affectionate, & actually appears to enjoy sex rather than using it as weapon or bargaining tool. You are of course going to respond. Some are easily blinded to the reality of the situation & so develops the false relationship, the horror stories of rip offs & scams that go with it.

I would agree in the case of the LOS, you need to live there to develop a proper lasting relationship with a Thai. I wish all tho's who have done that or who are doing that the very best of luck & I think you will have a much nicer more fulfilling life than anything the west has to offer.

Good luck to you all.

[Guest]

[fortunately I have avoided falling into a relationship of any kind. Not that i wouldn't like one, its not going to work while i am dashing around the world & indulging in whatever i can.]

Totally agree with you Rob. I have been coming to Thailand for 20 years and its only been the last two trips that I have stayed more than 3 months. That has taught me many new things that I would never have known before on my short 3 week stays. Whilst enjoying the fun and banter I have not allowed myself to be taken in with all the charm as I know I could not survive the long distance relationship woes.

Has anyone else wondered why when the LB's or GG's ask questions one of the first is "How long u stay Thailand?" I think you can figure that one out.

When I return here to in a few months I intend to live in Bangkok and work. This is important not only for money but for your mental state. Thinking about Bar Girls, LB's and GG's all day will drive you crazy.

I leave you with a quote from many of my Thai friends......"Take time, slow but sure"
cheers and good luck.

[stogie bear]

Thinking about Bar Girls, LB's and GG's all day will drive you crazy...

Well, call me crazy then!