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  • #16
    So, my ex-wife is Filipina, and I've been there more than 50 times, including 2 weeks ago.

    The Filipinos, in a survery about 6 months ago, proved to be the happiest (and poorest) people in Asia. What that means is they are generally good humored and like a good laugh, and that is my experience.

    There are many nice Ladyboys there, and more and more are getting surgery. I went with 6 in Boracay, and all were pleasant and fun, and 2 of the six had the typical Thai surgery (cheeks, chin, breasts, hips).

    Where it is not so fun, is the poverty, which causes virtually everyone and his brother to ask you for money. Leaving Boracay last weekend to Manila, I paid a total of 8 people minor pittances, but it is just aggravating to do it.

    Manila is dangerous and is well known for being so. I have never heard of other places being unusually dangerous except Mindanao where the Muslim insurgents are (er, maybe like the south of Thailand?).

    For safety, what Thailand is really great at, is hiding the crime. It just does not show up in English newspapers. Look at a Thai newspaper and you get quite a different perspective of what life is really like here. And note the 4th British tourist in 18 months was murdered in Koh Samui last week.

    All that being said, Thailand, despite the incredible corruption (one of worst in Asia), it's frustrating, twisted business practices (rated 77 out of 144 for ease of doing business, like near Palestine or so), it's well published human rights excesses (1200 people murdered during Thaksin's drug campaign in 3 months, and was it 77 muslims killed on a truck last year?), it's suppression of free press (one of worst in world), it is a great place for a dumb farangs like us who don't get involved in all that crap. But for those who do get involved in business, it sure ain't paradise...except for the Ladyboys.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by (Stewart @ Jan. 07 2006,10:09)
      Finally, I own a business in Thailand. The guy who runs it for me is a Filipino, and I trust him fully.
      Maybe you have found a good combo!

      Is running a biz in Thailand easier than in the Phils? I don't have direct experiences.
      However, for you having found someone who speaks english well and is closer to our western mentality than what a Thai could be, is likely a win/win situation.
      I have done biz in Thailand (selling and buying) and had success but never ever concretized anything in the Phils where people presented themselves better than what Thais do, but just talking hot air and not a single order came thru!!
      So, there are plenty of nice and quality people in the Phils for sure but the country is just a mess, in a way as Indonesia is, where however I still could made biz (selling only).
      Doing business is hard anywhere however
      Do only what you think it's good for you, and not what others think should be good for you!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by (ziggystardust @ Jan. 07 2006,10:26)
        So, my ex-wife is Filipina, and I've been there more than 50 times, including 2 weeks ago.

        The Filipinos, in a survery about 6 months ago, proved to be the happiest (and poorest) people in Asia. What that means is they are generally good humored and like a good laugh, and that is my experience.

        There are many nice Ladyboys there, and more and more are getting surgery. I went with 6 in Boracay, and all were pleasant and fun, and 2 of the six had the typical Thai surgery (cheeks, chin, breasts, hips).

        Where it is not so fun, is the poverty, which causes virtually everyone and his brother to ask you for money. Leaving Boracay last weekend to Manila, I paid a total of 8 people minor pittances, but it is just aggravating to do it.

        Manila is dangerous and is well known for being so. I have never heard of other places being unusually dangerous except Mindanao where the Muslim insurgents are (er, maybe like the south of Thailand?).

        For safety, what Thailand is really great at, is hiding the crime. It just does not show up in English newspapers. Look at a Thai newspaper and you get quite a different perspective of what life is really like here. And note the 4th British tourist in 18 months was murdered in Koh Samui last week.

        All that being said, Thailand, despite the incredible corruption (one of worst in Asia), it's frustrating, twisted business practices (rated 77 out of 144 for ease of doing business, like near Palestine or so), it's well published human rights excesses (1200 people murdered during Thaksin's drug campaign in 3 months, and was it 77 muslims killed on a truck last year?), it's suppression of free press (one of worst in world), it is a great place for a dumb farangs like us who don't get involved in all that crap. But for those who do get involved in business, it sure ain't paradise...except for the Ladyboys.
        Funny, never seen any of this in any of the "Tourist Horde" travel brochures, or the most rediculous miss information books "Lonely Planets". I wonder why!!

        So few visitors ever really know & understand what is going on.
        Robin

        You pays your money & takes your chance. This isn't a rehearsal do it now, it's no good looking back when it's a lover & wishing.... ITS TOO LATE.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by
          For safety, what Thailand is really great at, is hiding the crime. It just does not show up in English newspapers. Look at a Thai newspaper and you get quite a different perspective of what life is really like here. And note the 4th British tourist in 18 months was murdered in Koh Samui last week.
          When I was in Bangkok last week staying at Omni Towers, having a coffee in the Omni coffee bar, I read that there was someone murdered in Omni just recently.

          I was reading this tut-tutting, then realised where I was......fuck me, maybe it was the room I was staying in!!

          Sure, the Pi is dangerous to some extent....most "poor" countries are, but Thailand has its downside as well
          Mister Arse

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          • #20


            everyone onhere has given a lot of very factual info concerning thailand and the philippines!...i am not a religious
            guy,but there is aquote in the "good book" tht goes like this:
            "god is not mocked"...for whatsoever a man soweth,so that he shall also reap"..this is as true today,as when it was put down on paper 2,000 years ago!..people are people!..generally
            if you treat them with respect this will be returned to you in kind!...NO MATTER WHERE YOU TRAVEL!..."don't worry be happy"..."
            john taylor

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            • #21
              There was a Australian girl murdered in Thailand only last week. In Australia last week 7 people met untimley deaths by a strangers hand. In the World last week hundreds were killed by others. Its called reality. As most posters have said be carefull , mind your own business and be nice to others. Works for me. July 06 will be my 32 nd visit to LOS.

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              • #22
                Where did the aussie girl meet her death in LOS?
                Your got yer Mother in a whirl
                Shes not sure if your a Boy or a Girl

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                • #23
                  I think vangough05 is mistaken. The case was huge news in the UK. She was a 21 year old student from Wales. Location: Koh Samui - Lamai beach.
                  She walked to the beach (just outside of her and her girlfriends' bungalow) in the evening on Jan 1 to call (or received the call from) her mother.....found dead next morning floating at sea.
                  Many police-specialists were flown to Samui from BKK to solve the case. There are now 3 or 4 suspects held in BKK since they left the island in a hurry. More to the news on thaivisa.com (hope I may post this website as it has more info on this case.) If not, I'm sorry and apologize.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by (jmaryt @ Jan. 08 2006,00:26)
                    you CAN travel around the phils and be safe!...just smile alot

                    generally if you treat them with respect this will be returned to you in kind!...NO MATTER WHERE YOU TRAVEL
                    I give up!

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                    • #25
                      Have to agree that Thailand is not really safe. Here in Phitsanulok an American guy got stabbed to death with a broken bottle outside a 7-11 at 1.00 am in the morning recently by two lower class Thai guys. It is thought he was getting more beer for a party he was having and as he walked out the shop the Thai guys said something and he responded. We all know if that was the case he should have kept his mouth shut but really who would go to a 7-11 at 1.00 am!!! (Of course Bangkok/Pattaya is a different story.) So Thailand as with anywhere else in the world is as safe as you make it! I would assume the Phillipines is no different.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by (ziggystardust @ Jan. 07 2006,10:26)
                        The Filipinos, in a survery about 6 months ago, proved to be the happiest (and poorest) people in Asia.
                        Really!! Filipinos are poorer than people from Laos, Burma, Cambodia?? How about India....millions of people in slums!! Just found that interesting that the Phillipines would be the poorest!

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                        • #27
                          Hi Stogie,
                          I would really like to hear about these jobs in Thailand and your bad experiences in The Philippines. I will be travelling to the Philippines in April and don't want to have the problems you had.

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                          • #28
                            Murders: US Cities (2003)


                            City Total number of murders
                            San Jose 29
                            Colorado Springs 12
                            Mesa 14
                            El Paso 21
                            Honolulu 15
                            Austin 27
                            Portland 27
                            Wichita 18
                            San Diego 65
                            Virginia Beach 24
                            Seattle 34
                            Boston 39
                            San Antonio 85
                            New York City 597
                            Fresno 37
                            San Francisco 69
                            Omaha 35
                            Tucson 49
                            Sacramento 43
                            Long Beach 49
                            Fort Worth 57
                            Denver 63
                            Albuquerque 51
                            Minneapolis 46
                            Charlotte 66
                            Jacksonville 92
                            Nashville 72
                            Los Angeles 514
                            Houston 278
                            Cleveland 73
                            Columbus 109
                            Tulsa 61
                            Phoenix 241
                            Milwaukee 109
                            Kansas City 82
                            Dallas 226
                            Memphis 126
                            Miami 74
                            Chicago 598
                            St. Louis 73
                            Oklahoma City 109
                            Philadelphia 348
                            Oakland 109
                            Las Vegas 144
                            Atlanta 149
                            Detroit 366
                            Baltimore 270
                            New Orleans 274

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by (Stewart @ Jan. 07 2006,17:18)
                              When I was in Bangkok last week staying at Omni Towers, having a coffee in the Omni coffee bar, I read that there was someone murdered in Omni just recently.

                              I was reading this tut-tutting, then realised where I was......fuck me, maybe it was the room I was staying in!!
                              My info regarding this incident is that the victim was a Dutchman in his 50's, a long-time resident of Thailand .......... CCTV footage from the camera located at the entrance to the elevators led police to believe that his murderer was probably an LB whom he took to his apartment. He was choked to death.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by
                                He was choked to death.
                                Easily done. No-one's to blame!

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