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  • #16
    Originally posted by (dummy_plug @ Nov. 26 2005,13:56)
    Originally posted by (Bam @ Nov. 26 2005,12:44)
    some of them are just as horny as you are€¦ some might be even more horny then you!
    With all due respects, I doubt that statement.  
    Well you must be one super horny dude then  
    you do need to go to Thailand and see for yourself that you will be outdone by some the super duper horny ladyboys of the land of Smiles.

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    • #17
      with ggs, happens quite often soi 7, 8, marine disco, but dont expect or lock for it. when theyre drunk they need cock, and if theyre thai bf is busy, they take the 2nd best - farang

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      • #18
        Originally posted by (ozzie @ Nov. 26 2005,19:12)
        I have been offered freebies many times but have never taken up the offer. Most (about 90%) of lbs I have been with in LOS are bar girls. All I can say is if you can afford to pay for an airfare, hotel, food etc then why not a couple thousand baht to spend time with some of the hottest ladyboy's on the planet? You must remember most guys on this forum who make it to Thailand probably earn more in a week than most of these girls do in a month or more.

        I mean you are not going to marry these girls and horny or not they need to make cash to survive.

        I always remember that saying too You are not paying them to stay but paying them to leave which believe it or not can be a problem if you treat them well.

        All I can say I suppose is do not expect any freebies from bar girls. Don't think just because you might be young and good looking means you do not have to pay. They are bar girls after all, so be prepared to open your wallet as this is how they make there living. Just think how you would feel after you put in a hard days work only to be told you are not being paid  

        Excellent post Ozzie. Exactly right on in every way.      
        I might add, a mutual friend of ours who used to frequent C&D, told me that on several occasions there, late at night, that if certain lbs did not have anyone bar fine them, they would offer to go with him for free rather than go home alone. He would take them up on their offer, but the next morning before they left, he would give them 1000 baht if the sex was good, and it invariably was. As he said, it was about courtesy. Not about getting something for free that one does not really deserve for free.
        This is their job. They need to pay rent, buy food, etc. Some of them do not get bar fined more than a few times a month.

        My favorite Obs girl told me last week that she had a guy want to bar fine her, but said he only wanted to give her 500 baht. His reason was he could get some of the freelancers for that. She said sorry, she would not go with him for 500 baht.
        How many kinds of jerks can some punters be? Like you said, pay all the necessary costs, airfare, room, etc, to go and stay there, and then try to lowball the girls. I would never offer an NEP ladyboy such a ridiculously small amount, if i wanted to barfine her out of her bar.

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        • #19
          90 per cent of the TS's ive slept with were freebies. Im a bodybuilder, and they like it. I msg the escorts on AOL, and just attempt to chat them up, send them a pic, and for every 5 i msg 1 goes for it. New York New York.. freebies come a dime a dozen.. not to mention Miami..

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          • #20
            Originally posted by (tek2g @ Dec. 19 2005,00:44)
            90 per cent of the TS's ive slept with were freebies. Im a bodybuilder, and they like it. I msg the escorts on AOL, and just attempt to chat them up, send them a pic, and for every 5 i msg 1 goes for it. New York New York.. freebies come a dime a dozen.. not to mention Miami..
            Don't think Thailand is like the US. The thing you have to understand is that for the bar girls this is their income so why should they give it away? How often do you work for a day and expect no pay?

            If you want freebies then maybe try to locate some non-working girls.

            But as I said before I just don't understand why anyone would pay for their airfare, accommodation, food, drinking etc and then want to skimp with the girl.

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            • #21
              Yea i guess it's true about no such thing as a free lunch but i have had numerous freebies in my 2 trips so far,being in my early 20's has helped i think but also being polite and a gentlemen goes along way like taking them out for dinner an making a date of it rather then just going straight back to the hotel having.Never got away with not paying the barfine though an i agree with ozzie on the pay them anyway policy as they need the money,but gifts an paying for there meals an making them feel like people goes along way as well.

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              • #22
                limp dick is the master of free Maxy from obsession, Neung from Cascades-she will be travelling to China to work in a caberet fro 3 months, so shes out of action starting dec 21, Belle from Casanova and in a few days when I am back from Pattaya it will be Cab from temptations. oh, and it helps to be in good shape and fairly good looking
                jeffreyscott

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                • #23
                  These girls are hookers 2 bro. Don't fool yourself. Girls are girls anywere you go. If you got game you just might get laid.. If you can't understand that, then you must have absolutly none.

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                  • #24
                    This discussion is getting a bit on my nerves, to be very honest! Why the hell a freebie?? Don't you normally pay for your meal in a restaurant? This is a business, man! You pay somebody to have sex - period!!!
                    I quoted it here already recently, but here again, as some guys are obviously dreaming of saving a few bucks on the back of some 3rd world hookers.....*geeeee*:
                    "YOU PAY THEM TO LEAVE, NOT TO STAY" (Charlie Sheen)

                    MK
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdXtf-GHvU

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                    • #25
                      it depends on many factors. many, many of the hookers in los are looking for a longtime boyfriend, so guys usually end up pay at the end of the day anyway.
                      but as i have written, freebies are quite common. drunk tgs, young and horny, and if they like you they dont care for 500 (well at least while theyre drunk).
                      another factor is the "african factor" - where many girls are just happy if you pay their meal and drinks.
                      also "accident fuck", what was supposed to be a quiet night, relax in bed w food and tv and holiday for the pussy or ass ends up with sex anyway.
                      but i think it can be hard if you go looking for free sex, it just have to sort of happen.
                      i think many guys feel guilt about paying hookers from the 3rd world for sex and maybe they feel more comfortable if its free and the traditional western thinking that there should be understanding, respect and love between the parts. doesnt work like that in los, neither for the local guys.

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                      • #26
                        "drunk tgs, young and horny, and if they like you they dont care for 500 (well at least while theyre drunk)"
                        ....exactly! .... and who the hell wants to take advantage of this??

                        " maybe they feel more comfortable if its free and the traditional western thinking that there should be understanding, respect and love between the parts"
                        .... same here... who thinks seriously to get a freebie with a western hooker is not naive anymore, he's plain stupid!!

                        MK
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdXtf-GHvU

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                        • #27
                          .... even in Thailand you have to pay for sex with a pro, sorry!

                          MK
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdXtf-GHvU

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                          • #28
                            Olekunde: What do you mean by the "African Factor"? Most of the pretty lbs and thai girls I know run the other direction when they see a black guy, very racist country Thailand. I would say black guys have the toughest time finding a hot Thai girl to barfine...my best friend is a studly black dude and he had a bitch of a time, girls always making excuses not to barfine.

                            As for limpdick and tech2g..get over yourselves. I doubt very likely you look how you say you look. I am one of the younger looking guys in thailand mongering but I have freebies no more than the other guys. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesnt.

                            Also, Ozzie wrote, "You must remember most guys on this forum who make it to Thailand probably earn more in a week than most of these girls do in a month or more. " That means absolutely nada, zilch, nothing. Who cares? That may be true but it's also 10 times cheaper to live in Thailand. If the girl or lb is making it clear that its a freebie then she is obviously not hurting for money and dont kid yourself, there are some ladyboys in Thailand who probably make MORE than some guys on this forum, many of which cant afford to go to Thailand.
                            brock landers

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                            • #29
                              language problem - african factor. in many of the african countries the pros are pleased with a meal and do not expect any hard valuta as exchange for sex, although a tip is always welcome. as in thailand. the thing is, if you date or go steady with a socalled good girl, they would be furious if you payed them after sex, but they expect to be treated by with goods. this also happens in the bar scene. many thai pros are very different from the western ones but of course they do it out of financial reason, their methods are somewhat different.

                              i never seen any black guys having a hard time finding a lady in los. every time i have been in pattaya and us army is in town, the black guys seems more than welcome. in some bars they are even preferred, like roof bar(over superbaby gogo).

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                              • #30
                                Having observed the American servicemen in the LOS / Pattaya, & I no longer stay in any of the hotels used by them for R & R, there popularity revolves round the fact they chuck money alover the place. They tend to be younger guys on a limited time period with alot of money in there pocket to burn up. "Money Number One" don't loose sight of that in the LOS!

                                Unfortunately alot of these servicemen seem to show little respect for the locals, & many haven't the faintest idea what they are doing when they meet with LB's & can get quite aggressive when they realise there hot dates actually a bloke!

                                I don't think people should feel guilty about paying for sex in the LOS, you are going to pay one way or another & a dam sight more in the west especially if you get divorced & have young children. At least its all up front in the LOS.

                                The sex tourist also puts more money out to where its needed. Package tour people stay in huge hotels owned by corperations, they fly with other airlines than Thai & even if they fly with Thai the farmers in Issan, probably the poorest province in Thailand, don't benefit. Package tour people go on organized trips don't tip very well, if at all, there input is to the big players not the poorer masses. The sex tourist on the other hand ( at least the more experienced ) tends to organize his own itinery, tips better & generally does not stay in the huge corperate hotel chains, he doesn't go on too many "sheperded" tours as he prefers the company of his chosen companion GG / LB to that of the mindless sheep going to the Elephant show or some other tourist attraction.
                                He will, hopefully, be tipping his companion for their time, some of that money will make its way to the familys not the huge corperations who are wealthy enough. But of course the "do gooders" would much prefer them to be earning a pitence & living a life of poverty outside the sex trade. These are hard choices for the masses to make, but don't under estimate who is actually putting more into the pockets of the poorer masses, something conveniently over looked by those constantly wishing to make mileage out of slating the sex industry.
                                Robin

                                You pays your money & takes your chance. This isn't a rehearsal do it now, it's no good looking back when it's a lover & wishing.... ITS TOO LATE.

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