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    i won't break my own rule and mention any other website's up here,  but some of you may have seen a particularly  bad one which  feature's an ugly bald guy and an even uglier  hairy guy with a dead animal on top of his head, screwing some nice ladyboys.  Lord knows i would never pay actual money to see this  piece of crap,  but i have seen the outsides and it seems as though these 2 guys are good at destroying the reputations of some of the ladyboy models, changing all their names, and making up fictitous stories about how they met them and bedded them down for the camera. words like slut, whore, fuck pig, fuck toy, and worse are used to describe some of the people that i care about greatly, and i really don't appreciate that at all. and naturally, as soon as i see any model on that amatuer production, she is automatically crossed off the list of any girl I would even think of sleeping with;for some reason when i see them on that site I just lose my appetite; I pray that Chompoo never shows up on there and I know that Aon never will.

         which brings up the question; would you guys like to see this type of activity here?  would you like us to change their names to whatever we can think up, or just use the ones that they put on their model release forms?  do you want us to put up some screwball story about how we met them, or  just tell the truth and tell you the story of their real lives? would you like to see the girls degraded and humiliated, or put up here in a professional manner and talked about like the nice people that they are?  we are adding more hardcore than ever now, and feature hairless Thai guys rather than ugly white guys, but would you like to see us making these girls bleed and swallow cum [or whatever that fake stuff is that they use in their shoots]?   do you want us to write nasty words on their bodies and fill up their ass cracks with shampoo or whatever else we can find that looks like cum just to make the girls look like sexual objects? or, would you prefer that we leave the site the way it is, put the girls' actual stage names up here, and treat them, you know, like people?

        This site has a mix of hardcore, x-rated galleries,   and r-rated stuff from the beach that we think is done in a tasteful, professional manner.  Would you rather that we treat the girls like shit and ruin them for the rest of you, or treat them nicely and tell you how you can meet them and live out your OWN fantasies, rather than live through 2 sad-looking characters?

      any and all thoughts appreciated

    Jon

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    Jon
    with respect to the pictures and the bio's, I think you have achieved pretty much the ideal compromise.  The photo's are sexy and most important they are in good taste and shows respect for the models by not posing them in obscene unnatural poses... It's all about RESPECT - and you show that you respect both your models and your members with every photo shoot you post .... Keep doing exactly what are you are doing - it works !!!

    The issue with regards to how you handle the "free speech" controversy in the forums is a little more dicey ....

    In my opinion no one is entitled to total free speech on these forums ... YOU as the owner of this site must be the arbiter of what can and cannot be said ....

    this is your web-site and whatever is said on this site is a reflection on you to some degree.

    I think an easy rule of thumb to follow is if you feel that a particular comment is going to cause you to lose members than it should be deleted or at least modified ...  If you think that controversial, antagonistic type comments will enhance membership, then I guess  an "anything goes" philosophy will be better.

    The bottom line is simply this - this is YOUR website and your livelihood.  It is very easy for some members of this site to pledge allegeance to free speech - but they are not going to be the ones to take a financial hit ..

    If you think that a comment is offensive to the majority of the membership you not only have the right, but the responsibility to yourself and the majority of the members to delete or modify that post ... in my opinion, this is a business first and formost and the members need to respect that...

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    • #3
      Jon,

      I have many reasons for being a member of this site. The beutifual girls, the great pictures (it is a artwork), all the information about BBK and Thailand, and the forum. But key to that is respect. Over the years I have known a lot of the girls. And I don't want them to be shown in a disrespectful way. Yes they are in "the business", but they are for the most part, kind, sweet, nice people. In addition to being very hot to look at.

      If the site changed gears, and started to disrespect the girls and show them in a demeaning way....it would be time for me to move on. Thank goodness with you at the helm, that will never happen. I think we think a lot alike.

      Your site is great.....I vote, let's keep it as it is....and continue to bring on the great looking babes....I'll pass on the bald old farts, I have no interest looking at them.

      Lotusman

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      • #4
        thanks to both of you guys for the positive comments. as to your post, Oracle, i agree that I am the one who looks bad if this board gets out of control, and sometimes [extremely rarely] I have to step up and take charge. The last time I did this to a minor degree my mailbox was filled with hateful letters, and i want to avoid that as well. so I think Stogie's idea of having a seperate forum, the Virtual Bar, will be good for the proponents of 'free speech' [ I am still not sure how that is defined but all the people who wrote me seem to think i am an evil person who is trying to restrict it; not the case at all, and i would love to see their views on free speech if THEIR pockets were being emptied out]. In any case, the Virtual Bar is a place for people to let loose and have fun outside of this main forum, but please, for the sake of all religions, nationalities, sexes, and people with diferences of opinions, lets take it easy up there please. have your say, but don't be mean-spirited; that is not the object here.

        as for the content of this website, we have no plans on changing anything. I only used another website as an example, and as I say, I am not happy at all when other people call my friends Sluts and whores and worse on a very public spectacle. My friends would hate to see how they are portrayed on that piece of garbage, and fortunately for those 2 guys, that site is banned in thailand so the models can never see that their names are changed and they are treated as less than dirt. That will never happen here; these girls are nice people and will be treated with respect and dignity as long as I am at the helm.

        thanks again guys....keep on viewing

        Jon

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        • #5
          Jon,

          last time I made a comment about the two in question. i believe you responed with who really gives a shit. This was a few months back but the blood coming out of her ass was the straw that broke the camels back for me. It broke all boundries. Thanks

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          • #6
            I haven't seem the site you are talking about but I would not be interested in being a member of such a site. Keep this site as it is.

            I regards to "free speech" people tend to forget that with free speech come the responsibility to use it responsibly. Although you may have free speech you do not have the right to use that privlige to infringe on the rights of others. Free speech is the right to express one's opinions openly and without fear not the right to degrade or infringe on the rights of others.

            I'm sure that there are more people out there who prefer a site like this than the one you spoke about.

            Let's hope they support your site.

            Keep up the good work Jon.

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            • #7
              I have seen the site and don't want to see it again! One of the things that alarmed me was that the old bald guy was screwing a ladyboy and not using a condom!

              Keep our site as it is Jon, I have told you before and I'll tell you again, we have a unique site here. www.asiants.com is the best lb site on the planet bar none!

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              • #8
                if it is that site... then i am sorry for them, i joined here because i could not stand it any longer to see beautiful LB. I had to join to look and view them. I personally dont want to veiw the LB getting treated like they do on the other web sites. that is why i joined this one. But the bad part about it is.... some of the LB do let themselves fall into that shit, why? maybe it is the money, maybe they dont know what there getting into. I am glad there are guys here that do meet them and know them and hopefully can swade them away from such nonsense....

                so.... anyway.... enough of that, I will treat all with respect.

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                • #9
                  thanks...usually I would ask not to post any links of other sites but those guys can have all the links they want up here.....no self-respecting person would stay as a member of that site so i have no problems with the other guys seeing their crappy links.

                  changing names, treating the girls like shit, calling my friends sluts and whores, making up phony biographies and using fake cum on their assholes and in their mouths; the sooner that piece of garbage goes out of business [and it's just a matter of time] the better it is for everyone involved.

                  and what's the deal with the dead animal on that hairy dude's head? hasn't anyone told him yet that everyone is laughing at him?

                  Jon

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                  • #10
                    my 2 cents ....

                    That infamous site is optimized for wankers. You know, guys who will never travel anyplace further than their fridge (and then only for beer). It's likely they relate to the ugly guys in the pictures; their misogynism is the consequence of a frustrated, long-term love affair with their left-hand. Poor hygene, low sperm count, ample belly ... they're lucky to just reach it.

                    I'm not trying to be sarcastic (not much) -- I think a lot of pornsites pander to this sort. Fortunately, fridge fuckers are not likely to visit BKK, or anyplace else that might require getting off the couch.

                    So they are not going to care what the girls are really like. Or what a good time with them is really like.

                    Here, I think most of the forum members visit LOS regularly. And they like to exchange info about the girls and figure out how to make the most of their quality time in the sack.

                    BTW, it doesn't look like too many of the LB's are enjoying themselves with the unhygenic Mr. Pink and Mr. Rug ... only one hard-on that I saw (unfortunately one of the more attractive girls on this site, yuck).

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                    • #11
                      ... one more thing...

                      I like the fact that this site gives you a bit of background and discussion of the girls. I'd want to find out more if I was going out with them, so this is nice. Keep up the current balance Jon.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by (Jon @ Aug. 25 2003,19:27)
                         and what's the deal with the dead animal on that hairy dude's head? hasn't anyone told him yet that everyone is laughing at him?
                         
                            Jon
                        I'd rather be bald than have that "thing" perched on top of my head!

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                        • #13
                          thanks Jeff.....when we write something up about a girl, it is THE TRUTH!   we get to know every girl personally during these shoots, and we just tell you a story about their real lives, their ages, where they come from, etc.....not some bullshit.   that site is famous for naming the  girls  whatever they choose, they all seem to be "18", and they treat them like trash; and you are so right that the people who view that site are just pud-puller's.  anyone who actually travels to meet these girls like we do would be appalled at the way the  ugly twins are treating our friends.

                             i know that pim and may from pattaya were on there recently and I have always said and from which i will never waiver, as soon as anyone has been with those 2 clowns they will never get anywhere NEAR  my bed.  something about that crappy piece of garbage just makes me lose my appetite. can you imagine what the models would think if they ever saw themselves portrayed like that? they can't because that horrible thing is banned in Thailand, but I truly feel sorry for those models.

                             Jon

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                          • #14
                            why did you put that link up
                            oooooohhhhhhhh my god
                            i should be in los mid october and the first thing i was going to do was go and see anney from Obsessions,now i am so turned off i will give her a miss
                            keep this site as is

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                            • #15
                              i like this sight very much, but all being said i can't see what the problem is. all the girls have there price and if they want to have shit writen on there bodies ext then thats there desision.Money tallks guys, weather you like it or not, they get payed and no one forces them to to anything.
                              if there as intelegent as were told then they should be able to make up there own mind what is good for them. right but the old dollars blot out the reasonable thopughts and they do what the money tells them
                              cheers donnnnny
                              just another view

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