To chop or not to chop

[Mai-Kee]

If you ever want to give advice about srs to a young ladyboy then please tell her to wait as long as she can while talking to a psychiatrist !  

Very true, ol' boy, but you know that there are no shrinks in LOS.......
I think it's our duty to explain and to educate those we adore that this is not something you can decide like buying a new pair of shoes (quote of a LB: "I need a pussy to make more money and to marry a rich (straight) guy"). Actually when I was confronted with such plain stupidity I was intrigued to push her into the mutilation.
Only a few TS hate their male genitals from their early childhood and can't wait to get rid of them. Maybe less than 5% of the LB's I met in my life and who wanted to go for the final cut mentioned that as the reason/urge for having it.
Don't forget the vast majority of the girls we meet over there come from the rice fields, have a poor education and are way too young to see the whole spectrum of their decision!

MK

[Guest]

Yep. I'll try to dig it up, but I read recently that Thailand has like the least shrinks in the world per capita.

[Guest]

yup, Indef really hit it on the spot here and he doesn't have to convince me that the girls should all be forced to wait until they are a bit older, and maybe even be forced to talk to some older post-ops and see how they are happy with their decisions?

I am doing my part, Indef.... I offered that 50,000 baht to my ladyboy friend Nut if she would just wait until she is 21 to have the cut, in a bit to make her wait at least 3 more years and give it that much thought. I would actually do that for any 18-year old that I liked and if they do indeed wait the 3 more years I would be happy to hand over the 50K if that is still what they want. Nut told me no way, she has to cut way before that


why is this so prevelant in Thailand?

[Mai-Kee]

....to me it appears sometimes as a kind of mass-psychosis. One stupid girl infects the other with bullshit-ideas of getting straight men who marry them and take them to their countries. Why don't they just see that the majority end up as aging hookers (in LOS or wherever), desparate over the fact of turned their member into a fishbox.....
That is a sad thread.....

MK

[Guest]

So I don't know if it is this but there is this extreme desire in the working LBs to look feminine. There definition of feminine is large breats, long hair, and then the chop. It is almost like a caste system where those with the chop are the top of the heap in being a woman. So I'm wondering if there is a kind of peer pressue in play here, that affects the less mature, maybe not brilliant girls.

For what I consider the smart, mature girls, they never think twice about SRS. They won't do it. This obviously isn't a very scientific study, but just my observation.

JaeDee is spot on on the waiting period. This stuff does not always go well.

Some guy paid for Maysa's chop in Phuket. She did it in Yala, I believe, the cheapest known place in the world to do it. My last trip, she was going back again to the doctor as there were some bad complications; I don't believe "complications" are easily fixed.

I don't know if this individual asked her, or she asked him, but I have heard of boyfriends asking their girlfriend to get the chop. I think that is slightly on the sick side. Would you do it for her? Why would you put that pressure on her? Why not accept her as is?

[Guest]

she was going back again to the doctor as there were some bad complications; I don't believe "complications" are easily fixed.

these are always comical.....  getting their pussy "fixed" after the first butcher did it, so they go and find another doctor to make it even worse.  the absurdity involved with all this is enough to make someone laugh if it wasn't so sad.

[post-op lover]

I think that the trauma from having a bad job done is probably the thing that rules their life afterward. I wouldn't be surprised if these are the ones that carry more regret than most of us could ever comprehend. They wanted to be a girl so quickly and so badly that they failed to understand how badly this could be screwed up.

But, I'm not going to say that it's unreasonable for a guy to say that he would prefer his girl to have the op. I would, but then I wouldn't be attracted to someone who wasn't post-op or at least a pre-op already dead set on having it done.

[Guest]

Interesting point of view from one of the Casanova girls whom i took out a while ago: She said that ladyboys SHOULD NEVER IN ANYWAY have the chop.
But she added, the ladyboy's dick should not be used while having sex because then it becomes gay sex...

[Guest]

wow, that is strange coming from a Casa girl, many of whom use their dick during sex!

[Guest]

Post-Op, I'd agree with you if the girl wanted the chop. But if she doesn't, and the guy does, do you really think it's right to ask her to do it? That exerts an immediate pressure on her to do something for him else she may lose him. Doesn't seem right to me to ask someone to remove a body part.

For Maysa, I'll check up on her in a few weeks, but her friend had told me 'not good' last time. Some girls view the Yala clinic as a butcher shop, others love it. It is the cheapest in Thailand (about 35,000 Baht for boobs).

For you guys not over here, Yala is in the south where the Muslim issues are now (no relationship of course; just pointing out geography).

[postop_girl]

I´ve got the chop in europe and i´m very proud about the result. But it´s right to wait if you don´t be sure. And you must find the right doctor. So take time for the search, and you will enjoy the result of having a pussy finally.

[Guest]

thank you for the input, Julia!

[Guest]

Thank you so much for providing input postop_girl! I was hoping you might chime in.

Please forgive me if this next is rude and just ignore me. I have no intent to intrude but if it's not too personal can you still experience the same intensity of release as before? My own orgasms are of such pleasure and intensity that should I lose them I rather think I'd commit suicide.

Again, I very much appreciate your comments and perspective "from the other side". Please keep them coming because it can otherwise be a pretty lopsided discussion.

[Guest]

Yes! Please post more! We need LB input to straighten our misguided thoughts sometimes.

[Guest]

I still remember my first trip to LOS that I spent the entirety of with the incomparable Bangkok May. I asked her one day what her opinion was regarding SRS and I'll never forget her answer: "Stupid idea! Why would I want to do that? I couldn't cum anymore and sex would not be fun if I can't cum. If I have SRS, I am still a ladyboy, not a lady, because I can't have a baby. I would just be a ladyboy with no cock. If I had the choice of a pussy or a bigger cock, I would rather have a bigger cock. All my friends who get SRS, sooner or later end up mssing their cock. One of my best friends had SRS a year ago and she misses her cock every day now. That is what she tells me."
That was the gist of what May told me, although her English while very good was not quite that exact. I think she has one of the best outlooks when it comes to SRS of any lb I've talked to and she was very adamant about it.