Long term relationship

[Guest]

ITS EXCACTLY LIKE U SAY...U NEVER HEARD RELATIONSHIPS LASTING.
MAYBE THEY LAST FOR AS LONG AS U LIVE IN LOS AND U HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR BOTH OF U.BUT IF U R NOT LIVING THERE THEN I AM AFRAID THAT UR LADY WILL STIL LOVE U BUT SHE WILL NEED SOMEBODY ELSE TO REPLACE U.WE FARANGS MUST REALISE THAT WE ARE THE MOST LOVEBLE PERSONS IN LOS FOR AS LONG AS WE SPEND OUR MONEY THERE.THEY SEE US LIKE A WALKING $100 OR 100EURO BILL.I KNOW IT SOUNDS BAD AND I WISH THAT I AM WRONG
THINKING LIKE THIS....ANYWAY I WISH U THE BEST.

Marco it is great to have you adding your opions to this forum and I wish some other new guys would follow your lead. But can you please turn off the caps lock as it makes it very difficult to read your posts. Thanks

[stogie bear]

Where did Stogie Bear meet Kui?

On the internet. She was in her first year if Uni and looked killer in a black skirt and white blouse!

I was hooked when I met her, but it took her a few months before she actually fell for me!

Persistant fucker I was!

I have had a few sexual romps with other lbs in the past, but they were all unfullfilling so I don't do that anymore. It was fun while it lasted though and I have no regrets.

These days I'd rather stay at home and watch a movie!

[Guest]

Stogie Bear,

Where did you meet her on the internet?

[Tomcat]

Is it better to live well away from where the girl previously worked,get her away from other influences?

I bet thats easier said than done. Especially lets say an ex working girl. Most are homesick for there friends just five minutes after they left the bar .........after all if you were torn away from your own enviroment you may feel a bit lonely.

Be prepared for a big phone bill ( i assume you will be paying it)

Of course it depends on the maturity of the honey you are planning to make a bond with and i suppose a 25 educated girl will have a different outlook from a KC3 special.

Looking at Porno sites means contantly eyeing 21 year old beauties and so the Butterfly effect kicking in after two years
is a possible . So better not log on .....

Anyway i hope you let us know how it goes .


chok di kap

[Guest]

i tend to agree with sangabriel. I have had 2 strait girls friends  from thailand both of whom i met in australia. one was real darling one was a bitch.   the  true facts are that women and i guess ladyboys  have a different agenda to men. they are all looking for the best  nest to lay there eggs, and   (especially in thailand)  will be on the look out for the best financial support they can get for the future of there famillys and there kidds.I know this , its a cultural thing in thailand(have friends, married  couple high up in  thai airforce,,)Love is  not a concern for the woman, so forget it.its all about who will support me the best, having said that   there are always exceptions to all rules
personally i  love playing around and am not interested in a  relationship. If i was there is absoulutly  no way i would  have a relation ship with a  sex worker.i would  take my time and date a strait girl or ladyboy. thai  culture is sooooooo different  from western  culture, we will probibly never  really understand whats going on in  a partners head,so having rambled on for hours, i wont be in any relation ship with a thai girl ladyboy  strait or sex worker. just could.nt be bothered with it. and as for living with her in thailand with all that temptation on the door step . well stogie  your a better man than i gungadin:

[Khuntibi]

My first post here

I'm living since two years with a Thai-Chinese ladyboy here in Switzerland. She is not from a bar. She work before in the family bussines from her brother, as a bookkeeper. Her brother have a bussines with Cameras " BIG CAMERA" shops.

My resume after two year ( plus another 1.5 years partly in Thailand) In the beginig it was hard for her. She has a good english ( study on South east Asia University on the Petschkasem road Bangkok) but she must learn German and learn handle with a new situation.
Must say it works very positive for us. We are still in love For me she is the best catch which I could make.
We hoppe we can get old and happy together.

PS: She get 30 years old few days ago. I'm 38



Khuntibi

[Guest]

Good for you Khuntibi, it's nice to hear success stories  

  choc dee

[stogie bear]

We hope we can get old and happy together.

Good luck! Nice post

[Guest]

The only thing I'd like to add that is different from the other comments is this:

-All Thai women and LBs are not bitches; can you tell me a country where they are some
idealistic woman? I'm ex-married twice now, to 1 Hong Kong bitch and 1 Filipina bitch, because
the Canadian bitches were worse. As far as bitch factors go, I'm not seeing Thailand special,
in fact, it seems a lot less bad. They want money sure, but it's not so much money they want
versus just living a decent life. If you never gave them a penny, and they could just live a nice
life by you supporting them, they'd be very happy (just like the Filipinas).

-I have met some amazing LBs in Thailand who do not work, have not dug my gold up, and had
sex with me like an animal, for no cost whatsoever, and wanted to come back! Incluiding last
weekend.

-The biggest issue I can see for very long-term is that she will certainly start to look like a guy
once she gets older, and maybe "become" a guy, as her appearance just doesn't work anymore.
That may be hard to take.

-As for the seeking out nubile 19 year olds, jeez, do you think that only happens when you're in a
LB relationship? Every male I've met, married, not married, to GG, to LB, keeps looking at the young
ones. Stogie's not unhappy by admiring nice ladies, he's just human.

Final note -- Nick (Australian) and Ning-Nong (LB) are about 45 each, in a long-term relationship,
and seemingly still quite happy about it. They own and run the Cocktails and Dreams Bar in Phuket.
And yes, Nick likes looking at 19 year olds, like every other male on the planet.

[Guest]

For some time i was thinking of a relationship to a LB, but after i went to BKK i quickly changed my mind
When you hear all the stories the Ladyboys tell you about their customers you think it is better to not to do that.
A good example is the faboulos JeJe, she told me that she is in love to a american but also have a boy friend from France who sends her always money.
SHe told me that she likes that he sends her money all the time but she likes more to stay with the guy from the states.
And for Ladyboys from other countries it`s the same, i went out with a spanish Ladyboy in Amsterdam and stayed with her for 3 days, but she showed me all the time that she only sees my as a customer.
So for me i prefer to have a Ladyboy as a good friend, like i have Nadia from Singapore as a friend only.
We have sex together and go out to the Disco when i am there, but when i go back to my home i don't contact her anymore until befor i go back to Singapore.
SO for now i

[brocklanders]

The other real problem you face is that all dreams of having a family are pretty much nil.    Many of you are divorced with kids so that is not a problem but for young guys like me it is.   The last thing anyone would want to do is get old with a ladyboy whom ends up a man or femboy and trying to raise adopted kids.  Most here like the lady part of the ladyboy and ladyboys have low shelf lifes. Not to mention adopted kids in that relationship would be seriously fucked up.    

Ladyboys are a fun diversion but nothing to take serious IMHO.   Better to have a lot of close LB friends whom you can have dinner with and have her introduce you to her ladyboy friends or other girls.

[jellybean]

......If you are looking for love with a prostitute then grow up and start working on your own self esteem......

Stogie. I'm curious to know why you should make the assumption that someone who gets emotionally involved with a prostitute has low self-esteem?

Do you consider prostitutes as some-what inferior or of a lower status to non-working girls?

Over the years I have gotten to know some prostitutes well enough to have been given an insight into their personal lives. Many of them adopt an alternative personna  whilst working to hide their real selves from  the punters. To break down that alter ego, that barrier and get them to trust you enough for them to show you a glimpse of the real them is quite an achievement.  For instance, just think how  quickly the non-working girls you've met, have told you the names of their kids, or other details about their family members and compare this with the prostitutes you have met? I would say non-working girls would be quicker to tell you this than prostitutes.

Certainly, it is harder to get really know a prostitute  and for them to commit to you, but I would in no way consider them inferior to non-working girls.

Another thing I am curious to know is, of those that have expressed an opinion in this thread is how much of it is based on first hand experience, how much on second hand and how much on hear-say? From some posts this is obvious but for others it is not.

Cheers

[stogie bear]

......If you are looking for love with a prostitute then grow up and start working on your own self esteem......

Stogie. I'm curious to know why you should make the assumption that someone who gets emotionally involved with a prostitute has low self-esteem?

Do you consider prostitutes as some-what inferior or of a lower status to non-working girls?

Finally! I have been waiting for someone to say that!

What would anything I have written lead you to think that I consider prostitutes inferior to non-working girls.

Being unable or unwilling to sustain a longtime relationship does certainly not characterize a person as inferior in my book.

I certainly do NOT see prostitutes as inferior people. I have a lot of respect and even admiration for many of them especially ladyboys who are really out on their own in this world.

The issue is whether or not girls who have sex for money make good lifelong partners. The fact is that they don't. The reasons why are numerous and varied and are not all the fault of the lady(boy) in question.

Anyone looking for a meaningful relationship with a working girl is, in my opinion, in need of a kick up the backside.

Having sex with these girls is great. Liking them and treating them as special is fine also.

But falling for the illusion that you are somehow in love with a working girl and that she feels the same about you is simply unrealistic and very naive.

In fact if you are looking for love with a girl whose income is derived from selling you the illusion of it then I would say that your judgement is unsound.

My original post was more of a go at the poor saps who lose their hearts (and minds) to working girls rather than an attack on the wonderful (and talented) girls in whose arms we often fall into.

At best the girls who ply love and sex as a commodity are a substitute for the real thing and should easily be distinguished from true love.

The subject gets more complicated when we move on to the subject of non-working girls who give genuine love at the drop of a hat, but this thread is not the time or place for that discussion.

Generally speaking; Thai girls (working or not) have a farang-fetish and will use many means at their disposal to ensnare one to keep. The reasons are infinite and vary from a need for emotional security to want of a better mobile phone.

Hidden amongst these reasons are the genuine romantics of which there are a multitude. But rather than take the time to look for genuine affection and motiveless love we simply choose to fall for the first pretty girl who opens her legs.

I'd say that if you are falling for girls whose job is making you fall for them then you do indeed have low self esteem.

If you are fucking for fun then that's something entirely different.

There are millions of beautiful Thai girls with good hearts and there are tens of thousands of genuinely loving (and lovable) ladyboys who will rock your world.

You WILL NOT find them working in bars.

Agree or disagree... I'd be interested in any comments.

[Snick]

I agree. Bar girls GG and LB are lots of fun, but forming a relationship with one is fantasy (which is their speciality).

There are tons on non-bargirl LB who want a Farang boyfriend, but you have to live here and put in the effort.

[Guest]

PLa
i was with jeje for a few days on and off in january. she told me the same stuff about the french bloke sending moeny and the american who is a ladyboy photographer(her boyfriend).
she is a fun babe who used to call me and come round after her cam was worn out from making $100 a day .i stayed at her apartment a few times and watched her perform for the cam . very interesting. shes a nice girl and ill see her next week for a few nights fun.
latest news is that she has finished with the yank? who knows and who really cares?