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  • My 5 observations about ladyboys in NEP

    After a 2 week stay in the LOS meeting many ladyboys every single day, I have found out the following about our beloved thai katoeys.

    LB = DIVERSE GROUP
    After knowing many of them, I realize that LBs are really a heterogeneous lot.
    It is true that many of them are equivalent to our Transsexuals in the West and these girls aim to have surgery to go all the way to full womanhood. However, there are many who are living an effeminate lifestyle but do not want to transform their penis into vaginas and in this sense, they are more like drag queens or effeminate gays in the West (except that they spend a lot more of their time as woman). Then, there are a small minority who actually are bisexual men and are living and working as ladyboys for economic reasons.

    Therefore, it is wrong to treat them as one group. Real Transsexuals may not enjoy sex with their penis. Those who are not aiming for surgery might actually love their cocks and are active in sex.

    I once barfined a LB who is a committed Transsexual who hates her cock and only thinks of surgery. Having sex with her is without fun but she did act very tender and loving when I treated her as a woman by cuddling and kissing her. On the other hand, she was wonderful in giving a GFE.

    Few days later, after having many girls in a row, I picked a tall sweet LB with huge silicone tits, long legs, large man feet and a massive cock. She was actually bursting with libido but I was too tired to satisfy her that night and prefer a more girlish partner.

    My lession is that without knowing the difference in types of LBs, I can never really enjoy my time with my LB.

    CHECK THE COCK BEFORE BF
    In general, those LBs with delicate Japanese doll like faces, petite build and small feet have small cocks and low libido. They are great for GFE and cuddling and playing around but their cocks are more like those chicken sausages they serve in Thai breakfasts and are not so functional. Many of these girls took hormones since their early teens and some even had their testicles removed. Therefore, I always check their cocks and their balls during lady drink time before I bar fine them. I actually find cuddling these petite beauties a highlight of the tour but I just need to tune my expectations beforehand.

    THE BILL ADDS UP
    As soon as one enters places like Obsession or Cascade, the LBs will swarm onto you and ask you to buy a drink for them. Although it only cost around B150 a drink, it does add up and sometimes the tab including barfine will be more than what you pay for the short term.

    My experience is that befriending the mamasan or one of the LB waitresses and offer them a drink will help to drive away the swarms of LBs. I would strongly advice against being too assertive in refusing their requests for drinks. It is simply too un-Thai and afterall also these girls are just earning an honest living.

    LB MIGHT STUCK TO YOU LIKE GLUE
    Sometimes after buying a LB a drink, she will stick to you like glue and refuses to leave unless you took her out ST. I see no solution to this problem except to be more cautious in agreeing on buying a LB a drink. If one buys a drink to a LB he does not really fancy, that LB might obstruct him from enjoying other LB he might like more. It is pointless pushing the LB away as this is simply too rude. My trick is pretend going to the toilet (and enjoy the scene of seeing perfectly feminine LBs peeing in the urinal next to yours). Sometimes I would end the drink by giving them B100.

    LB ARE ADDICTIVE
    Combining the beauty of the most gorgeous woman and their unique character makes LBs highly addictive. I advice everyone to think twice before trying.

    UNSOLVED QUESTIONS x 2
    Finally, I have 2 QUESTIONS for everybody. I found that those LBs I really fancy always refuses to spend LT with me and only agree to ST. That is even when I barfine them at 1am. Most LBs would agree to LT happily but not those I fancy and really want to spend time with. I just wonder why.

    My second question is that how do I get to befriend a LB and spend a full day with her. I wonder how much would be a fair offer.

    [U][U]

  • #2
    That seems to sum it up pretty well...

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    • #3
      (wombatos @ Dec. 25 2009,07:48) My second question is that how do I get to befriend a LB and spend a full day with her. I wonder how much would be a fair offer.
      Do nothing. The one's that want to be with you all day long will stay around without you asking. Just pay whatever you'd normally pay for longtime each day.

      Of course you'll pay for all the stuff you do together but don't get roped into buying expensive gifts.

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      • #4
        (wombatos @ Dec. 25 2009,22:48) UNSOLVED QUESTIONS x 2
        Finally, I have 2 QUESTIONS for everybody. I found that those LBs I really fancy always refuses to spend LT with me and only agree to ST. That is even when I barfine them at 1am. Most LBs would agree to LT happily but not those I fancy and really want to spend time with. I just wonder why.

        My second question is that how do I get to befriend a LB and spend a full day with her. I wonder how much would be a fair offer.

        [U][U]
        You happen to pick LBs that don't want to go LT with someone new. Lots of LBs and girls are like this. Some do not go LT at all. And some will only go LT after going with you ST once before. Also, some will agree to LT, then cut out early.

        Don't bother asking her why, you will not get an answer that is of any use to you anyway. It is what it is.

        And also, what if she is a crappy shag? Do you really want them sticking around all night and then giving you another crappy shag in the morning?

        Best to go ST with them for the first time, you'll pay less and you'll find out fif you like them in bed. THEN, if you do, you can ask them about LT.

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        • #5
          (wombatos @ Dec. 25 2009,22:48) My second question is that how do I get to befriend a LB and spend a full day with her. I wonder how much would be a fair offer.
          we had a grand formula somewhere that was worked out around 5 years ago in the form of an Einsteinien type equation ( like X+2-4 /BF +LT= etc etc). A bit tongue in cheek but was not completely adrift.

          Anyway i would hazard a guess that a Night +all Day scenario from Obsessions is going to cost 3-4K. Obviously you have the maintenance costs like shopping etc to factor in as well . Price creep as its known in the business world.

          also on another point
          One supposes that the more popular Ladyboys would not want a LT as they may have taken several doses of farangi cock up the arse in the course of the evening and probably knackerd. Or just offer more. I cant see many refusing 4K in Obs for a LT, if you really need a sleepover with some sweety

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          • #6
            Damn...I can't get the Pattaya LBs to leave...I Picked one out of the crowd Xmas Eve and
            she is still here...She was my Xmas present to myself that got unwrapped and re-rapped
            and unwrapped several times...
            "It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards."  --- Anon

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            • #7
              (kahuna @ Dec. 25 2009,21:21) She was my Xmas present to myself that got unwrapped and re-rapped
              and unwrapped several times...
              Like Hallmark.....................the gift that doesn't stop giving!

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              • #8
                (kahuna @ Dec. 26 2009,12:21) Damn...I can't get the Pattaya LBs to leave...I Picked one out of the crowd Xmas Eve and
                she is still here...She was my Xmas present to myself that got unwrapped and re-rapped
                and unwrapped several times...
                Same same experience for me.

                One LB just refuses to leave and clung to me like glue to the extent that I worry she would cast a magic spell on me to keep me with her. She told me that she
                "will take care of me very well" for another night but I really have enough.

                My problem is that the ones I really "fall in love" with refuses anything other than ST. They usually gives lots of lame excuses. All hotly denies having Thai boyfriends or pimps waiting for them. One said she needs to go back home to help in her mother's fish stall at 4am. Another said she needs to take turn nursing her sister's baby so that her sister can go to work as a clerk at 6am. A third LB said she has locked up her flat and she needs to go back to let her flatmates in. When I offered to give her a lift back, she said her flatmates are not aware she is in the P4P business.

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                • #9
                  (wombatos @ Dec. 26 2009,12:29) My problem is that the ones I really "fall in love" with refuses anything other than ST.
                  There's your problem Dude...Don't fall in love with them...They ain't gonna fall in love with you...

                  Your other problem is you're in BKK...Pattaya LBs are different...

                  Question: Why are you a member of the Sisters group? Is that a part of the problem?
                  "It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards."  --- Anon

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                  • #10
                    (kahuna @ Dec. 26 2009,12:46) Question: Why are you a member of the Sisters group? Is that a part of the problem?
                    No, I am absolutely male and the usual LB admiring cock sucking dude to all the LB I bed. I wish I could be a sister sometimes but that is in my "good heart" only.

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                    • #11
                      (wombatos @ Dec. 25 2009,22:48) LB ARE ADDICTIVE[/b][/u]
                      Combining the beauty of the most gorgeous woman and their unique character makes LBs highly addictive. I advice everyone to think twice before trying.
                      This is so true...... Im hooked...

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                      • #12
                        (wombatos @ Dec. 26 2009,12:29) One said she needs to go back home to help in her mother's fish stall at 4am.
                        No wonder some guys are cynical. This is a new one on me .

                        Can you imagine any of the dolls from Obsessions slushing around a fish market with matchsticks under eyes at that hour while studying their fondly manicured fingernails

                        Must be the most lame excuse yet

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                        • #13
                          It was a enjoyable post. If I wind back time I would have written something very similar to it. Now I will give you an opportunity to see a step in the future.

                          LB = Diverse group

                          Yes, but they have one commonality at the core. Each of them thinks they are a girl. Regardless of how far they go on operations, they would have just preferred to have been born as a girl instead. Becoming a ladyboy is not a choice they make. Instead they just always knew somehow they were really a girl from their earliest age.

                          Unsolved Question1: ST only

                          They are doing a job. Different ones put different amounts of effort into it. They are mainly lazy, that€™s why they got that type of job in the first place. They are making decent money and not thinking about the future or maximizing profits, just living for the day. Think about it, just about anyone in the world would prefer to sleep at their own home instead of with a stranger in a strange place both not of their choosing for a nominal amount of money.

                          It€™s possible that all the excuses you received were not actually genuine. The real reasons they may not do LT is actually a long list, but the one about needing to unlock the door for the roommate is definitely NOT among them as that€™s the oldest trick in the book. Also everyone close to them will know exactly what they do and others will at least expect it already. One blanket statement I can make is ladyboys in the bars love to go ST.

                          Unsolved Question 2: How to spend a full day with them

                          Get a number and meet them in the day somewhere. Release them for work in the early evening to avoid the barfine so it€™s more of a date than business. In my experiences, they are very willing to see a movie or do things in the day and they will appreciate you for it.

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                          • #14
                            (jadeite @ Dec. 27 2009,10:22) Yes, but they have one commonality at the core. Each of them thinks they are a girl. Regardless of how far they go on operations, they would have just preferred to have been born as a girl instead. Becoming a ladyboy is not a choice they make. Instead they just always knew somehow they were really a girl from their earliest age.
                            Wrong...

                            Your statement only proves how little you know about them and how limited your experience with them is...

                            Some are simply gay boys...Pretty boys indeed...Some will revert back to boyhood when the time is right...Some go back and forth as the mood strikes them...Some will tell you that they are NOT ladyboys...Some have children running around back in Isaanville...

                            When you're two years old and your entire extended family calls you ladyboy and paints your fingernails and teaches you the Thai lady ways what do you think you're gonna become...

                            In my uneducated experience I have met very few true transgendered Thai ladyboys...
                            "It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards."  --- Anon

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                            • #15
                              kahuna, I think there are a whole range of lbs ranging from the ones you've met to those who are transgendered.

                              It does make a difference whether you are attracted to preop or postop lbs - I think there are more in the postop group who are transgendered, as compared to the preop group.

                              Wombatos observations are interesting. However, 2 weeks of spending time with Thai lbs won't give a complete picture of them. Making generalizations from those observations would be stretching things.

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