Guys who do not pay!

[cancer12]

hey!!! everyone is entitled to your opinion, and i appreciate suay's support, on the other hand i am also sharing the same sentiments with the guys who feel that hip implants look atrocious, i myself do not want to have huge hip implants, but 'take note of this' ladyboys are still men, we are trapped in man's body and the only way to get out of this is to make some enhancements, and there is nothing wrongwith that.... your body has to conform with your sexuality...

i have a feminine body, and i have an ass of a woman, and all i gotta do is to enhance my hips a bit... and one session wont make it disgusting, it will only make it look even better instead.... trust me!!!

on the other hand, this thread is not about hip implants... care to go back to the real issue here???

[donnnnnny]

check the forum and feel better at the many lbs who shaft nice guys and rip them for millions

[Guest]

Please-Dont spend a load of money on potentially dangerous medical procedures!-do what the girls in the uk do-sit on your arse all day,and eat at McDonalds every night-that'll enhance your hips.

[batman4ever]

(Naang Faa @ Nov. 01 2009,18:00)

(batman4ever @ Nov. 01 2009,01:38) come on NF....

dont be so F.....  PMS......

she comes in on a forum dedicted to guys whos doing a lot of P4P.....asking for advices regarding the business...and then you flame us for telling what we feel regarding hips.....

like she is entitled to decide regarding her body(hips).... we are entitled to give our OPION....and as i read it....all of us put it nice but straight that we didnt like the arteficially hips some of the girls get...thats an fair opion from what we could call "potential costumers"....and when she uses this place for a kind of marketing-research...she should just be happy with every answer that could make her able to decide whats best for the business...


and BTW....with that pretty face shes got...it would only be a few special times i would look at her ass......

big kiss....

Of course you're entitled to your opinion
and i am entitled to give support for her decision
and to give a somewhat flippant but accurate reason
why you oppose it ..
And you can fook off with the potential customer bollocks an all
She IS NOT "JUST A HOOKER" she has to consider her own self image
first..

PMS??? damn right i got it- Post match syndrome    flippin Fulham!!
                                                                                                          x

everybody knows how an angry nang faa looks like.....

so heres a picture of a comming liverpool-fan....

[batman4ever]

well back to topic...

i think sometimes that the girls....and their fellow "sisters" sometimes are their worst enemies regarding plastic surgery...

iam afraid they sometimes "create" a need for a surgery that maybe aint nessesary....at least not when it comes to wievs of the punters...
and BTW...i always hated the words "prostitute" and "hooker" they are loaded with bad wibes...like it is bad persons...

bloody hell.... just because you sell some sex...dont means that you also is the type that beats kid...rob banks...kills people and steal old peoples money.... of course it WILL have an influence on your selfesteem...and on other peoples wiev of you...but ill guess its the price youll have to pay for earn money, in a way that some people, would find an easy way... as we all know...well paid jobs always have SOME "backsides"...

i think that Oh has the best way iwe seen so far regarding this...never asked her myself...but just listen when she describe her life...

its a job....and sometimes i enjoy it... i think thats how the word was..

as i see it they dont sell their body...and they dont sell their soul...what they sell is time...and service...and i wouldnt want it any other way....

BTW.... can we call us disgussing this for HIPpocrates??

[cancer12]

well said batman.....

u really rather look at my face than my ass?

[cancer12]

(donnnnnny @ Nov. 02 2009,03:07) check the forum and feel better at the many lbs who shaft  nice guys and rip them for millions

i dont think that there is something to feel better about that....

every situation is different, involve different people, that will be unfair if we will

think that way>>>>

[cancer12]

ok... i met this guys now.. and had so much fun.. i never asked, but he still gave and i accepted it...

i really like him.. but its too early... but i doubt if it's gonna be romantic later, because it started with business...

anyway im curious, HAVE U GUYS EVER PAID AN LB AND SHE REFUSED TO ACCEPT? HOW DID U REACT? AND WHAT DID U THINK?

[Ericthehalfabee]

(cancer12 @ Nov. 04 2009,14:14) ok... i met this guys now.. and had so much fun.. i never asked, but he still gave and i accepted it...

i really like him.. but its too early... but i doubt if it's gonna be romantic later, because it started with business...

anyway im curious, HAVE U GUYS EVER PAID AN LB AND SHE REFUSED TO ACCEPT? HOW DID U REACT? AND WHAT DID U THINK?

Often - in fact on any trip where you've met someone who you connected with and spent some time with.

Either "I stay with you for nothing" or "You give me too much" in either case I just say ok not payment then just a gift so you can go and buy yourself something nice.

But I always make sure I pay the amount agreed per day, in cash one way or another - this is of course apart from any payment for tits, iPods, iPhones, motorbikes, airconditioners, TV's, DVD players, home repairs, funerals, and buffalo vetenarian bills.

I've never met any of the grasping greedy LB's so feared by the forum members.

Most of them are terrible romantics and they give their youth, beauty and time - something for them that only lasts for a handful of summers - in exchange I give some money, which I can afford and can easily make more.

I feel that I get the better deal...

As for your guy - firstly starting out as business - means very little, in fact it's just a far more efficient dating introduction service.

Just tell him you really like him and play it by ear but be careful - very easy to have your heart broken in this game.

[Guest]

Well said eric,spoken like a true gentleman!

[fridgemagnet]

Hmmm hip implants - we may not know what a ladyboy feels about them, but we do know what makes our cocks go hard.
It is not hip implants.

There again, if one had enough implants done, you could throw away the little bit of human and just fuck the plastic - Yummy

[thick81]

Great post, Eric - I like your attitude and your humor

For Miss Cancer

If my experience is typical - and I think that is is - guys typically go through an evolving process with LBs that starts with curiosity continues to sexual experimentation and indulgence

Some never make it past this phase, and are content to enjoy all that the P4P scene offers - no criticism intended, that is just their choice

Others eventually tire of the P4P scene, decide to honor their new sexual preferences, and seek a 'real' relationship with a TG

For met - after my 'first time' and about a year of having my 'fun', I decided that having a partner that

looks and acts like a beautiful female, but
thinks, gets horny, and has sex like a man

was, to cite the oft-used phrase, the 'best of both' worlds in a partner

Thus did I change my focus from seeking great sex partners, to seeking friendships that might lead to something more than a few hookups

I think you are both smart and wise in asking your questions here

For what it is worth, I think you have received some good advice - that being,

- be friendly and 'real' but learn to keep your emotional distance when you are with a P4P date

- be respectful but inquisitive with those guys you meet on the 'net, or outside of the bar scene

- do not be reluctant in communicating your intentions - and asking a guy to do the same - no matter if he is a potential P4P client, or a potential friend

My additional thoughts

Having 'walked in their shoes' before, I would say that 97% of the customers you meet in the bar - and the majority of guys who make a superficial approach on the 'net - are just looking for P4P fun

For those, there is - in my view - absolutely no harm in your asking

"...how much time would you like to spend together...?"

"...please forgive me for speaking frankly, but I am sure that you understand - how generous can you be...?"

"...what are your preferences - top, bottom, or versatile...?"

No harm and no foul in each person making clear their expectations to the other

If the guy is overly shy or reluctant in his responses, chances are he is not worth your time

Alternately, a guy you 'meet' on Friendster, Facebook, or MySpace - or one who sends a response to an ad on a LB dating web site - may be willing to invest some time in exchanging messages or chatting, and demonstrate some sincerity in getting to know you better

In my view, these are the guys who might be worth serious consideration for something more than P4P

During my dating years - that is, before my current partner - some questions I did not mind hearing from a new LB acquaintenance included

"...how long have you been dating TGs...?"

"...have you had any relationships with TGs? Or just having fun right now...?"

"...how long will you be visiting the Philippines...?"

"...if we meet, what are your expectations for our time together...?"

If you learn to set your emotions aside, you seem intelligent enough to separate the good clients from the cheap charlies, and the sincere guys from the the boleros or butterflies who will enjoy your affections only to break your heart later

If you are lucky enough to meet a guy who seems worth knowing, one more suggestion - take care NOT to be in a hurry with him

During my dating years, I would frequently meet a Friendster 'friend' or dating site contact for a Starbucks, a drink, or - less often - for dinner

I recall many times - after an enjoyable conversation - my new companion would ask

"...what hotel are you staying in...?"

When I would inquire why they were interested in such, in most instances the reply would be something like

"...you are nice, I like you, and

[I am horny...]
[I don't like to sleep alone...]
[I have been hurt in relationships before, and just want to have fun...]
[I want to have fun, and make some money too...]

{pick one or more}

From the view of a guy who was looking for a 'friends first' encounter - that is, one that MIGHT eventually lead to a dating relationship and partnership - I regarded any of the above as disqualifying answers

That said, if my new companion was nice - and it was understood that our mutual interests and expectations did not extend past a evening of fun - I would not be reluctant to kill the party, so to speak

No harm in some good, clean, and SAFE fun between two consenting adults, hehe

In such cases, I would always offer some money at the conclusion of our time together

Usually this would be gratefully received - after all, the life of a Filipina LB is not an easy one, this I understand

For those who protested - and there were a few who were emphatic that they were not 'working' girls - I would follow Eric's example, and insist they view the money as a gift and not payment for services rendered

Put simply

If you are both intelligent and careful in the company you enjoy, you should do OK

Hope this helps

Best of luck to you

[thick81]

Almost forgot

I recommend in the strongest possible way that you do NOT go the silicone injection route

While it is cheaper and will be obtainable sooner for you, the results rarely are good after a few years - and could be potentially life threatening

One of my early dating partners went for hip injections like you seek - and after a few years, now cannot be seen in a swimsuit out of fear of being ridiculed

Better to save and pay top dollar for implants from a good Makati or Ortigas surgeon, or - if you are in a hurry, and are strong enough to care for yourself during the post-operation recuperation - fly to Bangkok and get good work done there for less $$

Again, best of luck to you

[batman4ever]

(cancer12 @ Nov. 02 2009,13:20) well said batman.....

u really rather look at my face than my ass?  

yes...iam the kind of guy that turn on 1) eyes...2)smiles...3)humor....

but back to topic...

why worry IF a guy will love you, after you took money from him in the early days??? trust me...he will, when you say its now "free"....

why...because we are hunters by nature,,,and at that moment we feel victory...

remember...we men are simple.....


and yes... i know...its soon dec. and we are all gonna watch disney shows...but i will still claim its possible for you to succed with the right guy....no matter that he paid you before....

personally...i never found "love"...but i think found a soul-mate and tell you what....that aint bad....

so do what you need....AND want...at least i can say that i will cross my fingers for you...

[cancer12]

ahh thick, that was quite long but very interesting and id take every single advices u gave... i remember though that i have asked him those second set of questions,

"...how long have you been dating TGs...?"

"...have you had any relationships with TGs? Or just having fun right now...?"

"...how long will you be visiting the Philippines...?"

"...if we meet, what are your expectations for our time together...?"


i guess that the best advice i would take is just enjoy the moment i have with him and set no expectations...

anyway, he lives here.. and been here for years... not a tourists or short time visitor.. so probably the situation may differ compared to those who are short time visitor...