(cancer12 @ Oct. 28 2009,07:02) i just recently started working in shampoo, but this i met not from there, but i met online...
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Cancer12
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. As Rxpharm and others have said:
Always agree how much first
See if he has money - when buying a drink in the bar
You can always ask how he is going to pay you.
When you leave your ID at the hotel ask how long he is staying
I have heard similar stories in Pattaya. One very sweet LB arrived in the bar with a bruised face.
She then told me that 3 weeks before a customer took her and her friend to their room - he did not want to use his hotel. After she told him how much he woed them. He said he had no cash but she could come on his Motorbike to visit the ATM
She got on the back and, as he dove off, he pushed her off onto the road.
Take care in the P4P business - talk to some of your 'sisters' for advice and learn quickly.
Most guys are good and are ahppy to be with a beautiful Thai LB and treat them well BUT as in all life there are some bad people too. Take care and good luck - please do not get hip implants!
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sorry for your loss.... but like the rest of us...we all have made some mistakes in the beginning.... we just hopefully learn from them...
regarding the hip implants....forget it...they look silly on most girls iwe seen them on... and if you decide for boobs...then dont make them too big...you just end up looking like a porn-actor...and not a GF-material...
wish you all good luck...but remember to take care of yourself...all the ladyboys i know laughs when we have sex.....no matter what book they read
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...wooooa this would never go over in the States with any P4P gurl, cash is always up front in a plain envelope please, leave it on the table & don't mention sex, that's how they have to do it to avoid entrapment from LE & guys who won't pay later.. but in Thailand most guys usually pay after the act but there's nothing wrong with asking for the cash up front, just tell them you're not a regular working girl that has customers every day & you've been cheated before & can't afford to lose any income from non-paying clients; hopefully they will understand your situation then..
... and don't let anyone con u by saying "I thought we were friends BB", it's up to you whose feelings u want hurt, his or yours if you don't get paid for your time & that's what u tell them it's for... just like the pros do here in the U.S.; "you're paying for my time but the sex is free!"
.. oh & that guy that didn't pay u, don't worry he will try that once too often & on the wrong person & end up getting tagged real good by one of their friends or relatives! I'm a firm believer in "what goes around comes around".... I'm not young enough to know everything, and not old enough to have done everything..
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Yes,its a dilemna ,and there is no quick answer.If you ask for money up front,you will lose any chance of a real romance (which i presume you are looking for) I think you will have to write it off to experience,there are some cheeky fuckers knocking about.I could have done the same thing myself more than once,but i'm a decent bloke and called the girls back and gave them a "present".I know i would not like to be asked for money up front,especially with someone i met off the internet,so i dont know what you can do to ensure it doesnt happen again.best of luck-travis
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(travis bickle @ Oct. 28 2009,17:25) Yes,its a dilemna ,and there is no quick answer.If you ask for money up front,you will lose any chance of a real romance (which i presume you are looking for) I think you will have to write it off to experience,there are some cheeky fuckers knocking about.I could have done the same thing myself more than once,but i'm a decent bloke and called the girls back and gave them a "present".I know i would not like to be asked for money up front,especially with someone i met off the internet,so i dont know what you can do to ensure it doesnt happen again.best of luck-travis
read the forums all over the net regarding relationships with Thais...its almost the same recipe every time...
1) they meet the girl in the bar...AND they pay her...the barfining...and paying continues for days..maybe the whole holiday....
2) then the girl say....dont pay me anymore cuz i love you very mutt... i not lube your money...i only lube you... and most of us suckers have tried it once in our days.... and we WILL keep on falling in this trap...
3) so whats wrong in paying her even first time?? FFS...its small money to most of us...but not to them....and trust me...IF things get better and better with the girl,and maybe you start a kind of relationship...would you then hold the fact you paid in the start against her??? and do you feel that buying sex makes you better than her selling sex ??
4) there are...despite what written in dif. forums...also happy relationships that despice peoples explanation about how they meet THEIR girl in a shop or so...with girls who was "working girls" when they met them...
5) so if you want to feel better about it....just remember we never pay them for sex...only for leaving in the morning...and consider what ever amount you gave her...as taxi money...you might never know...its maybe a tuk tuk from Phuket shes driving in....all the ladyboys i know laughs when we have sex.....no matter what book they read
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please read my and her post before jumping in with both feet.She is talking about meeting someone off the internet,not from a bar-no barfine comes into it.Of course ,if she met him in a bar,the dynamics are completely different-then there can be no ambiguity that she is of course p4p.The fact she met that punter from the internet changes things (slightly) IMHO.
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(travis bickle @ Oct. 28 2009,21:10) please read my and her post before jumping in with both feet.She is talking about meeting someone off the internet,not from a bar-no barfine comes into it.Of course ,if she met him in a bar,the dynamics are completely different-then there can be no ambiguity that she is of course p4p.The fact she met that punter from the internet changes things (slightly) IMHO.
i DID read it....
makes no change in my eyes..... maybe iam too cynical...but i think most of the girls from thailand/philly is online for one reason....money.....either in one way or another(lt or st)..they arent here for your blue eyes only....
do you then expect them to give away "free samples"??
in that case...ill better start dating some of those sites...
come on....
1) she spend time and money on the internet....
2) she dress up nice to go see you....maybe even buy a new dress to look better...
to expect this should be for free..well that is IMHO...BS...
ofcourse she MIGHT be looking for "lube"....but until she hits jackpot,she has to make a living...all the ladyboys i know laughs when we have sex.....no matter what book they read
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Well,i think you are being too cynical.Yes most girls are on the internet for p4p,but not all of them.I believe there are a few genuine ones out there ,usually having good jobs,maybe having come out of a LTR with a thai man,usually living in a town other than bkk ,pattaya or Phuket.Possibly over 30,or thereabouts,looking for someone to settle down with etc etc.In other words,just like any other girl.I have met a couple actually,they do exist.I met one this year off the internet,and even took her down to Phuket with me.She stayed with me 8 days in all,no money was asked for,but i did buy her a rather nice gold chain .I think if i had offered her money,she would have slapped me.She comes from a well to do family who could probably buy and sell me if they wanted to,so they are out there,if thats what you are looking for.
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(travis bickle @ Oct. 28 2009,21:46) She stayed with me 8 days in all,no money was asked for...
Isn't that what this thread is all about?"It's not Gay if you beat them up afterwards." --- Anon
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Well ,i did not think of NOT buying her something,as i said,i'm a decent bloke.(but i see ur point)Maybe she did expect it,if she didnt,shes a good actress.I have been writing to her on msn nearly every day since,but truth is,i think there is no future in it,she's looking for the whole ball of wax...wedding etc...no thanx, but for someone who wants that she would be a great catch.
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