Pre/post vs beauty

[wisetraveller]

Hi Everyone

I was curious to ask this question given that we had a recent debate, with very firm opinions expressed, about our liking for pre-ops or post-ops as the case may be.

For me it goes like this. I find that I am utterly capitvated by someone who is beautiful, sexy, cute, charming, and feminine, but was born genetically male. The question of dick or no dick is not such a big deal for me.

So, if I am visiting a club such as KCIII where there is a lot of beautiful girls and a mix of both pre op and post op, my primary concern is to pick up someone that I am attracted to and has all the attributes listed above. The dick question is secondary.

If I had two very equal choices and one had a dick and one was dickless, I would go for the girl with the dick. But if the dickless one outranked the other on the beauty scale then I would go for her.

On another topic I was talking about Tam. And, as we know, she is now dickless. I would have loved to hook up with her and was sorry she lost the dick. But, given the chance, I would still hook up with her dick or no dick.

Does anyone else feel this way or is it a strict demarcation between dick and no dick for most of you?

cheers

WiseTraveller

[Guest]

HI,
I WAS IN THE WAY OF POST OP BUT AS YOU SAY IF THEY ARE THE BEE'S KNEE'S AND THEIR BEAUTY IS ABUNDANT AS IT SOMETIMES IS......EX...FOR eg THEN I NOW DONT CARE IF THEY HAVE A STINGER(DICK) OR NOT.
 

[Guest]

Sorry but I have to disagree............it's the combination of pretty girl looks and a (hopefully functional) dick that does it for me.

If the girl has no dick I might as well be fucking a real girl and there are plenty of them all over the place.

Apart from their extreme feminity/prettiness I don't understand some guys fascination with post-ops at all.

But that's just how it works for me........

[jellybean]

I have to a agree with fleeing on this one, its the pretty girl looks and functioning dick that does it for me,but I also like them to have tits as well if push came to shrove I would probably sacrifice looks for dick and tits

[PigDogg]

Attitude is more is more important than looks.

I prefer pre-ops but I still spend time with a special jai dee girl who's been cut.  But when hunting for new ladyboys I want one with a dick...............I'd rather have an 8 with a dick than a 9 without.

Addendum: Of course looks matter; a 20 year old Thai girl rated a 5 is still better looking than a 40 year old Western woman rated an 8!

[Guest]

I am actually about half and half on this issue. I firmly believe that some of the most beautiful ladyboys in Thailand are "cut", and their beauty is beyond compare. Som from this week is a good example, also Linly on Phuket, Ji, Nancy and many others. I don't know, seems like once they take the final plunge they become the most beautiful they could ever be for some reason, maybe because their balls aren't there anymore to produce testosterone. So, based on pure beauty, I would say they are the most attractive and therefore I am attrated to them based on that alone.

However, when it comes time to choose a mate or even a 1-nighter I always go for the pre-ops. something about the whole reason we like these people; the combination of a beautiful feminine appearance combined with a workable dick that can get as excited as we do. there is something strangely erotic about that and it is the thing I prefer most, along with about 90% of the guys here. I have been with about 100 of them and only 2 post-ops ever so that should be an indicator of who I prefer to spend my time with. So I feel like the posts are [sometimes] more beautiful and more feminine, but when it comes time to disrobe and get it on I will go for the ones with dick still attached most of the time.

[wisetraveller]

"seems like once they take the final plunge they become the most beautiful they could ever be for some reason"

I have that impression also. Thanks JD

Cheers

WT

[Guest]

[B]I am captivated by the beauty of a gorgeous woman but absolutely made breathless when a large working male organ appears between her legs

[wisetraveller]

I should say, to clarify my original stopic starter, that I would never encourage someone to get the chop.

If I meet someone I like that is already chopped I would simply accept things as they are. But if a girl talked to me about plans to chop I would strongly discourage it.

[Guest]

If she's cut, she's a lady.
It's that little "extra" that has me in BKK on 2-05
andyman

[wisetraveller]

If she's cut, she's a lady.
It's that little "extra" that has me in BKK on 2-05
andyman

I don't quite see it as that black and white.

I remember a few years ago, here in Sydney, I found myself home alone on a Friday night. I phoned an escort agency that specialised in Asian girls. I asked who they had available and they listed several names and nationalities.

I settled on a Thai girl and she turned up about 1 hour later. She was very attractive and we fairly quickly got down to business. However, I could tell, from several cues, such as her very firm and athletic body and strong shoulders and arms that she was a post-op lb.

I didn't say anything, and she did not acknownedge anything. She played it 'straight' so to speak. But I really got off on the unspoken secret aspect of the whole thing.

I did not consider her to be 100% lady and not quite a ladyboy, but something in between.

Anyway, it was a great experience. I took her number and booked her privately several times after that but neither of us ever acknowledged that she was anything other than a gg.

cheers

WiseTraveller

[Guest]

wisetraveler;

although it is that simple for me, finding out the ol bait and switch in the throws of passion, sounds exciting indeed.
congrats. andyman

[wisetraveller]

Thanks mate. Yes it was fun.

cheers

WT

[PigDogg]

When I'm with my post-op cutie, I generally forget she's a ladyboy since it feels like I'm with a genetic girl. Most of her former guys don't want to be with her cause she's post........no judgements from me , each to his own. And most of her new guys think she's genetic. I like being in on her secret and I think she's more comfortable with me cause she doesn't have to worry about being found out.

Would I rather she still had a dick. Yeah, it'd be better for me but I'll go with the flow.

[wisetraveller]

"Would I rather she still had a dick. Yeah, it'd be better for me but I'll go with the flow."



my sentiments exactly

WT