Post Operative Ladyboys

[celentano]

(kahuna @ Aug. 14 2009,11:33)

(celentano @ Aug. 13 2009,13:14) Here some examples of good results with Suporn's Technique of SRS

So...Do they smell like tuna fish or what?

the best one is...100% no smelling like thuna or other fish because the pussy don't have any gland..you can lick a pussy who don't smell bad..

[Tomcat]

All the posties i been with didnt like it in the fishbox...and some experienced pain,still , i really enjoyed it and as far as i am concerned its all subjective anyway. I know some guys who rather watch than actually have sex themselves.

Never seen an orgasm. not sure this this exists. There have been studies on this. and indeed an book.. anyway ill leave that to the experts

[Torurot]

If they are clean then they don't spell like fish.

[Naang Faa]

(JaiDee @ Aug. 13 2009,22:11) I can see it in the eyes.....they get hollow and soulless a year or 2 after the Op .... I coined the term ''shark eyes''

Yes, so true, it's the very first thing we say to one another when we
 meet or webcam "oh my god your eyes are so hollow and souless today".
We put it down to the lack of lack of bitter idiots we have to deal with  

                                                                                                                    x

[seanbeag7]

I am glad i ain't a "bitter idiot ".

Hey Naang, i your new avatar.

[Naang Faa]

It's the hollow,souless eyes that does it
x

[Stogie]

Definite shark eyes on this one!

[JaiDee]

  You're putting THAT one up as someone as being NOT soulless??  Haha, do you remember her at all??

  As I say, it takes a year or 2......take a recent photo and compare it to the one you like above; I'll stick with what I said.

 Not sure why this is always such a polarizing subject; as with anything else we all have our own opinions.  I've slept with a handful of post-op ladies and worked with and interviewed 40 or 50 others and these are the opinions I have come up with; if they don't gel with what some other people think I'm happy to agree to disagree but that doesn't mean I'm going to change my thoughts on the subject.

[guydesavoy]

I for one would like to hear you expand more on what, in your opinion, makes them 'soulless'. And perhaps why...

'Someone I know' is planning the op so I'd like to get as many and varied insights into what happens afterwards as possible.

[JaiDee]

I'm not sure, and if I get into it too much the many people who idolize the moderator here will get all over my case as has happened in the past so it's just not worth it; for some reason when it comes to matters involving post-operative ladyboys the opinions we form from meeting 50 of 'em just don't seem to count when others have met a few and think differently.

       Briefly, the underlying reason from my experience seems to be regret; I can't tell you how many times {15? 20?} I have had girls crying in my room and telling me sob stories about how they wish they had never done it, how they wish they could have their dick back, how they cry themselves to sleep at night, reach down and can't believe it's missing, have gone to doctors to "fix" the original Op,  can't get off anymore, etc .... I would think that would leave ANY person angry and sad about a life-changing experience which they now can't take back.  When I look into the eyes of most post-op girls I have met they appear dull and lifeless, and inside is a shell of the person they once were.

  Again, this is MOST girls I know {not all} and is only from MY experience of course;  some seem happy including an old friend of mine now living in London, my friend Ponlien in Chiang Mai,  and if Naang Faa and her friends are happy that's outstanding;  no one wants people to have regrets in their life! Again, I can only go by the things *I* have heard and witnessed over the years and this is how I feel. There is no wrong or right here, it's OPINION and not fact.

But I will note that other people have come up to me or written me and told me they agree 100% with the obversations I have made RE this subject, and they read here every day; probably just not willing to post their thoughts lest they get rocks thrown at 'em as I do. Again, a polarizing issue and one which most people prefer to stay away from; but doesn't it speak volumes that threads like this appear once in a blue moon while the pre-op threads run at about a 100-to-1 ratio? And why, when both are ladyboys and this is a ladyboy message board?

  Guy, if you want to PM me I will tell you much more.

[guydesavoy]

JaiDee thanks for your comments. I think it's fair to say that a proportion of those having the op will regret it. Others seem quite happy..

To speak to some of your points, my 'friend' doesn't show much interest in her cock, rarely likes to cum or even play with it (or maybe that's just me   ...) although I have spied some porn on her PC....so perhaps she would miss it less... Also in her mind she thinks of herself as a lady rather than a ladyboy...

Ultimately, of course, noone can predict how she will feel after the op although I'm sure she thinks she'll feel more 'complete'..excuse the pun..

I guess the interesting question in the context is what profile of person would more likely have such a reaction, and what are the signs or attitudes that would tend to indicate a 'successful' outcome ?  

[JaiDee]

Well, you seemingly made a profile of one girl right there..... if she doesn't enjoy her cock, can't get hard, and it's basically just a useless piece of flesh hanging there, then she could be a perfect candidate! However, as always I am skeptical that a person who can't enjoy sex or have orgasms as a boy can go see a doctor and then somehow magically be able to cum afterwards. These doctors who can cross a few nerve endings and tubes in that area and turn a non-performing, non-sperming male into a cum-gushing female should be written up in the medical journals as that truly would be a miracle.

 {I bet if she got off the huge doses of hormones she is probably taking she may have different degrees of hardness on her cock however}.

    Guy, I am sure your friend has chatted with many other ladyboys about this deal..... she should really LISTEN to those girls as they are living proof one way or the other! If 99% of them are happy and encourage her to do the same, she may want to go for it.  But if even 1% [most likely the number will be higher] say it is a bad idea from their experience, then she may want to think this over a bit more. Remember, we have all met ladyboys here and almost to a person when you ask how long they have wanted to be a girl they hold their hands to their kneecaps and say ''since I was this high"....  it's hard to discouarge a person who has had that dream since they were 3 or 4 years old, but once it's done and they have regret it's obviously way too late.

     Besides the 50 or so girls I have met who have gone all the way there have been over 500 pre-ops I have spoken to as well over the years, and despite coming across as  a non-caring DINK up here I am truly interested in their life stories and ask a ton of questions when we worked together.  Many many tell me that when they first arrived in BKK from Nakhon Whocares they were 100% determined to have the operation, something they wanted since they were ''this high''.  But after meeting dozens of other girls who had dissapointing results they decided to keep their equipment the way it is; girls literally talked 'em out of it.  Of course most can't be swayed, and that's up to them;  but make sure your friend consults with many post-ops first and gets the true low-down from all of them, if she still decides to do it than I guess it was meant to be.

        {X}, a superstar in the BKK scene whom you would all know but I won't mention the name, felt 100% certain she would do it from about age 5.  Once in BKK she even planned it, talked to Docs, etc..... until her friend Peaw got absolutely butchered from some quack who took away any feeling she ever had down there. As X said to me; ''she used to watch gay porno and get hard and cum; now she feels nothing and just cries all the time; I don't want that to happen to me.''  We met at age 17 and she is now 26 and has no plans of ever having the operation.  Hearing dozens of stories like that and dozens  more from girls who did it and regret it have helped me form these opinions;  it may seem I post this stuff just to start trouble but I am just reporting what I have seen and heard through the years.   And if comments like this or the naysaying of a handful of post-ops to their friends can dissuade a young ladyboy from making a quick decision which she later regrets all her life, I think it's worth it.

[guydesavoy]

Well JaiDee, she can get hard and always does during sex, she can cum, but seems to show little interest and doesn't like it to be played with. She does, however, enjoy a good rogering... I agree that hormones play a part...

I think one of the issues here is that numbers can always be debated. One man's experience (in terms of the 'number' of sad stories encountered) is different to another's. That goes back to 'opinions'. But there is no doubt that there are plenty of sad stories out there on this subject.

You do raise an important point. They really do have to do their homework and weigh up the consequences of what is , after all, an irreversible and life changing process.

And we all know by now that homework was never a favourite subject in LOS.

[Tomcat]

The final Cut
From memory in Europe they have drugs that extends puberty by a few years so one can ponder the situation a bit longer. I think there was something posted in the Academia section a year ago..

Act in ye haste , repent at ye leisure

[guydesavoy]

(Tomcat @ Aug. 14 2009,22:04) The final Cut

Pink Floyd right ?

Cheeky bugger