WHAT do Ladyboys think about us?

[PanzerPorn]

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,12:41)

(PanzerPorn @ May 17 2009,12:16) forget about their intelligence, add homosexuality and money one more time.

I'll leave the homo LBs for you. I like the straight ones.

You will pay more if you want them not to lie and tell you they aren't queer

[dixon cox]

One thing for certain in life and on forums such as this is, is there are no two people who will see everything exactly the same way and who's experiences are identical, but of course this is what makes people and forums interesting and a source of learning.

However, if the impossible could occur where people were able to post without fear of ridicule from the so called "hard-nuts" and self-styled know-it-all gurus then you would get a much more accurate picture. Perhaps the ability to post anonymously would benefit on subjects such as this, unlike the subjects of 'look who I fucked on my trip' type threads, where that person is out to attain kudos.

There are more guys here, both posters or lurkers, who have attempted the path of true ladyboy love than will care to admit and I would suggest that commonly the ones who are the most cynical and negative and vocal about the failure of such attempts are the ones who's hearts have been broken or wallets emptied, perhaps badly and perhaps more than once.

Just because some people have failed does not make that path a route of failure for others and just because someone has spent years in Thailand does not make them an expert, neither does fucking 100s of ladyboys.

How do you achieve it? - I wish I could tell you, I don't know.

But if it's what you want then don't give up. Just be prepared for failure as that's unfortunately the most likely outcome, unless you plan to live in their country where the odds on success would increase.

[ladyboyluva]

(PanzerPorn @ May 17 2009,12:58)

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,12:32) let me ask you why is it such a common theme on dating sites, by PI LBs in particular, for them to seek a LTR and someone who can love them? Is this just their worm that catches the biggest fish or do you think some of them really are hoping to find love and a LTR?

They have just realized there are no limits to human stupidity.

Based on testimonies and my own limited experiences I'm convinced that that is not true of ALL LBs.

Of course it's true that many are basically on the con. The question is what percentage and to what degree each is willing to go to deceive.

But I think most of them hold some dream of finding their prince charming and are quite capable of forming emotional attachments.

I can't believe that they are significantly different to us, just that their circumstance and challenges are much different.

[ladyboyluva]

(PanzerPorn @ May 17 2009,13:03)

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,12:41)

(PanzerPorn @ May 17 2009,12:16) forget about their intelligence, add homosexuality and money one more time.

I'll leave the homo LBs for you. I like the straight ones.

You will pay more if you want them not to lie and tell you they aren't queer  

I only just found out what a LB really is in this thread so please don't start confusing me about genders and gender preference labels.

LBluva ~ queer but not

[f0xxee]

(dixon cox @ May 17 2009,14:15) One thing for certain in life and on forums such as this is, is there are no two people who will see everything exactly the same way and who's experiences are identical, but of course this is what makes people and forums interesting and a source of learning.

However, if the impossible could occur where people were able to post without fear of ridicule from the so called "hard-nuts" and self-styled know-it-all gurus then you would get a much more accurate picture. Perhaps the ability to post anonymously would benefit on subjects such as this, unlike the subjects of 'look who I fucked on my trip' type threads, where that person is out to attain kudos.

There are more guys here, both posters or lurkers, who have attempted the path of true ladyboy love than will care to admit and I would suggest that commonly the ones who are the most cynical and negative and vocal about the failure of such attempts are the ones who's hearts have been broken or wallets emptied, perhaps badly and perhaps more than once.

Just because some people have failed does not make that path a route of failure for others and just because someone has spent years in Thailand does not make them an expert, neither does fucking 100s of ladyboys.

How do you achieve it? - I wish I could tell you, I don't know.

But if it's what you want then don't give up. Just be prepared for failure as that's unfortunately the most likely outcome, unless you plan to live in their country where the odds on success would increase.

Well said sir...

That pretty much sums it up as I see it.
1.If you want love, live there.
2.It can be done but its difficult.
3.And while you are browsing, pork a few roughies to keep you from being needy.

Now queue the music "Ebony and Ivory" and we can all hold hands and love ladyboys our own preferred way...

[kahuna]

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,12:32) Anyway, now that I've romanced you, let me ask you why is it such a common theme on dating sites, by PI LBs in particular, for them to seek a LTR and someone who can love them? Is this just their worm that catches the biggest fish or do you think some of them really are hoping to find love and a LTR?

I really can't answer your question mate...

I can tell you that I have been caught a couple of times...Once by a PI LB and once more seriously by a Thai LB...We refer to them addictions...and most all the regular guys here have been addicted at least once...It's painful...it can be expensive...I was lucky...for me it wasn't too expensive... it was painful...

And trust me...they are trolling all the time...even when they are with you...Moreover, they are not now...nor will they ever be...girls...they are boys...now and forever...Remember that...It might just save you a little pain later on...

Basically I spend about 9 months a year in LOS...so I'm not doing it from the outside in...But I would never try it again...I my opinion...IN MY OPINION...they are not culturally capable of having a relationship with a farang...Others will disagree...Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and my opinion might indeed be wrong...for my own sake I wish it were...But I think not...

These days, I fall madly in love every evening and happily fall out of love every morning...The In-N-Out Love Cycle works perfectly for me...and for them as well...And I treat them very well...They almost all vie for my visits and my baht and my attention...

Sometimes late in the afternoon I think about who I will spend the evening with...Sometimes I just head out...and visit a bar here and a bar there...to visit a friend or talk with a new girl I have seen on a previous visit...Sometimes I come home alone...Sometimes I come home alone 2 or 3 nights in a row...

My rules are simple...no silicone allowed in my room...don't take the same LB two evenings in succession...I must confess, I never violate the first rule...But I violate the second rule all the time...

Sometimes it's really hard to fall out of love...

PS...Please take what I have written here with a grain of whatever grain is in season today...Three evenings ago I mixed my tequila with lemonade...last night I ran outta lemonade so I mixed it with coke...tonight I ran outta coke so I mixed it with rum...It was a very good mix...

[ladyboyluva]

@ dixon cox: Yes, well said. Thanks for your input.

[ladyboyluva]

Well Kahuna, I guess I have your lifestyle choice to fall back on, which doesn't seem all too bad    except perhaps for the straight tequila and rum part.

[Stogie]

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,15:29) ...except perhaps for the straight tequila and rum part.

Actually, that made more sense than anything else that old codger said!

[guydesavoy]

(kahuna @ May 17 2009,15:10) ...We refer to them addictions...and most all the regular guys here have been addicted at least once...It's painful...it can be expensive...I was lucky...for me it wasn't too expensive... it was painful...

And trust me...they are trolling all the time...even when they are with you...Moreover, they are not now...nor will they ever be...girls...they are boys...now and forever...Remember that...It might just save you a little pain later on...

As usual kahuna tells it like it is...

Part of the answer to this 'question' lies in the underlying reality that many, if not most, Western guys looking for a LTR with a LB are in search of some kind of illusion of love. Deserted and/or disgusted by what passes for Western women at our age (let's say post 40 and the pickings aint appetising) we go in search of something 'different'. Sexually and mentally. This can often blind otherwise sensible people to the obvious pitfalls.

I have had a 2 yr LTR with a Thai non p4p LB which was quite successful. There were some inital hiccups but once firm ground rules were set she was as steady as anyone could expect. I broke it off out of boredom eventually but she was a keeper, and still is. Had a few stops and starts before and since.

More recently I tried a relationship with another non p4p LB. Good family, professional career etc etc...that was a disaster    After investing quite a bit of baht in helping her settle some pressing debts (not any more than i could afford to lose...Rule # 1) I found she was still happy to entertain other farang coming through town, and still exercising her rights on msn with the ol webcam...and speaking of tears, beware the self-serving type accompanied by declarations of undying love....

During that time I hooked up (no pun intended) with a p4p LB who turned into a friend and when that friendship was tested, I found that money was not the prime motivating factor in the 'relationship'. She was tired of the life and wanted out. She would stay with me for days (cf Stogie's 'Comfort Factor') and saw me as a friend first, although on occasion she did ask for 'help' as she was too lazy to go back to the bar. She is young and full of sperm so i wouldn't have any illusions on that score, but I can say she was genuine...

My point being that even non p4p Thai LBs can be chancers. Even ruthless ones at that, no matter their background. Relationships with P4p girls are difficult for a multitude of reasons as we all know. PI LBs ? I've met a few who didn't pump me for money (not too often at least..and sometimes only to pay for the private room   ) so you may have a chance there ladyboyluva  

[ladyboyluva]

Brilliant stuff there guydesavoy!

[ladyboyluva]

For interests sake, my own planned LTR of a couple of months has hit a severe hurdle and it's been tearing me apart like I've never felt before.

No deception, no asking for $$, just an old flame (the first love and sponsor) back on the scene, after being told about me, making desperate efforts and getting first option. I had to stand back.

I'm already booked to PI to see her but now thinking of shooting across to BKK for a week, approx 8-10 days time. Any of you mugs want to show me the ropes? Yah, I'm ignorant and immature but I promise I can beat anyone in Thailand at pool and drink any of you under the table.
*post sponsored by queen adelaide port*

[Hilbie Paratodos]

there are no creatures on the earth like thais, i honestly think that they think that they know more then they do, i mean there young, uneducated for the most part and certainly for the most part undertraveled, id say much like some silly girls over there once told me regarding footballers abality in the premeir league to kick the ball so far,,'' its the shoes''.........theese girls i imagine think your world consist of a better pair of shoes then they have and that if they put them on theyd out kick you, basically i think this is it fellas. but then again if you grew up in thailand youd probally think this too- thailand is magical but only in thailand, ive never seen some one loose their luster faster then a thai out of thailand, so as to what they think i could careless then less, because it matters so little-

[ladyboyluva]

Well, my gf's singing made Britney sound tone deaf and her walk made Kate Moss look like a cerebral palsy sufferer and her cock made Tyra Bank's pussy look like month old anchovey soup, but ya, 'dem LBs are not up to our high standards.

So they're young and a bit dumb about things we take for granted, let's not render them as inferior.
*another port sponsored  post*

[Stewart]

No deception, no asking for $$, just an old flame (the first love and sponsor) back on the scene, after being told about me, making desperate efforts and getting first option. I had to stand back.

Which word do you think is the most important one in that sentence???

SPONSOR!!! ka-ching