WHAT do Ladyboys think about us?

[pacman]

(Stealth @ May 16 2009,22:03) i think it`s a pure luck thing.

Yes, the question of luck has been mentioned but is that the most determinant factor?

That doesn't auger well for ladyboyluva, having to first win the lottery before he can expect life with his partner to work out....

Please tell us more about the relationships you know of Stealth, every different experience adds to our understanding.

[jimslim]

(pacman @ May 16 2009,21:47) Now Jim, I know you have gone the extra mile, just what would you suggest to ladyboyluva? In polite language of course...        

You know me my friend always polite

What would I suggest ? Precisely what I already have ,just enjoy the experience for what it is .

The reality is we are and always will be outsiders , farangs , a Thai will always put another Thai before you or I .

They are all individuals , some good , some bad same as us , so what is the definitive answer to -What do ladyboys think about us ?

Maybe not thinking too much about it is the best advice

[ladyboyluva]

(f0xxee @ May 16 2009,17:07) Ladyboylova,

IN my humble opinion it works a bit like this:
We all start out looking to them (ok massive generalization just made) as walking ATM's...
It's how you treat them from that point on that determines whether you stay screwed and glued. My experience is that most ladyboys given half a chance are not the over sexed little hornbags we imagine. They are there to make money. And they are not that motivated, which is a nice way of saying they can be lazy.
Therefore if you treat them with respect, look after them, offer them a future they seem to fall in love. It beats working. And they realise often its better the falang you know than the devil you don't.
And every now and again they really do fall in love. Fer real. Especially if you happen to live there, which makes the diffenence.
Now whether that love is Brad and Angelina or more the sugar daddy nature of Hugh Hefner and his entourage, is dependent on the girl.
IN my  opinion Thais have lower expectations than Filipinas, who are more the label queen and seem to have more western materialist values. Thais (generally to me) seem pretty happy with 3 meals, a comfortable house, a tv that is LOUD, and some baht (not so much) so that the family buffalo, brother and Mom and Pop are looked after.
I have seen an apparently hard hearted porn star sobbing and snotting all over my couch, me, the coffee table, and eventually into the swimming pool, for a full afternoon. Thus proving sometimes that the harder core whore she is, if she does fall in love with you, the harder she falls in love with you. Which makes sense: it took more to get through her reserve and cynicism.. .It cost her more emotionally to let go.
My advice:
If you really want a ladyboy for a full time partner you have to be there with them. If you are planning to come for one or two holidays a year then robbo and Panzer etc are on the right track: fuck and forget them. Or be prepared to be a long suffering, fucked up emotional wreck. If you go down the "absent boyfriend" route you will find out what "manipiulation" truly means.
If you really are prepared to to live with them, head held high and proud of them in their homeland (be it Philippines or LOS, they love a man who is proud of them... they are insecure as buggery no matter how they might pretend otherwise) then it can be pretty wonderful.

Even whores read fairytales, in fact more so.

Foxee,

That is very much the kind of response I hoped for. Thanks.

I've seen LBs cry in my arms, and not because of some money train was running out. Because they didn't want to upset me or didn't want to lose me. And in my own experience they don't want to be alone, they want a full time lover.

Whether or not they can commit for LT is dependent on the person, the relationship and many other factors. Though I'm not surprised the p4p hard nut specialists find all that hard to comprehend. They're unlikely to extract such emotions,,,and if that's not what they want, so be it and good luck to them. No harm in a 2 way voluntary association.

Again, thanks for your insights,

[Stealth]

Guy`s are not standing in line to begin a relationship or getting married with a ladyboy knowing the fact that the community will reject them or they will get ugly names , By now most ladyboy`s know that.

So the few that are willing to go all the way to find there love ones in thailand and take them back home to get married and live happy ever afther is not much.
Most ladyboy have a to high expectation of how the other country is where they are going to live the rest of there live`s.
so when they come her most will be disappointed and want to go back but most can not because of already made obligations.

Here in europe there are many ladyboy`s that came with a boyfriend then broke up and endup behind glass window working for a pimp that dont give a shit abouth them.
Dont get me wrong there are many LB`s that make it fine over here i have meet different once that hold high possitions at there work place and that`s married for year now.
I have even meet some that have adopted childeren so there are also some good story`s that succeed.

Then again ( What does LB`s think abouth us ) they think that we are the best way out for them to have a better living.
then it`s up to the ladyboy lover to prepare his LB for the upcoming event`s that will have to happend at the moment and in the futher so she have a good idea what to expect when she reach the other side of the world and in my judgement this does not happend
and to explain the word , lucky
You must be lucky that she can coupe with her new lifstyle.

Cheers , Stealth

[ladyboyluva]

A couple of personal comments if I may;

While some seem to think this subject is either re-hashing or irrelevant to the majority of the audience, it seems to have gathered more responses in a couple of days than some of the best and dirtiest trip threads. So it's hardly irrelevant subject matter.

Now, to unveil myself a little, I'm in a serious relationship with a PI ladyboy. I've had various short term relationships (mainly) over the years with gays (feminine [usually asian]), some drag queens, a few LBs but only recently started a serious relationship with a PI LB and to be honest, taking a relationship seriously for the first time was a kind of revelation to me.

Yeah, she was kind of special. Amongst her LB friends she stands out like a queen (naturally feminine, smart and attractive). She hates the p4p scene and just wants the opportunity to work a decent job and help her family and most of all have a guy who will be with her all the time.

The cynics can say what they will, but I believe that is what is in her heart, and I see compassion in her eyes and honesty in her actions, but I also know she is young and young minds are not set in stone and economic and social forces can influence her thinking.

But this is a good and tender person who deserves respect and kindness and if some of the hardnuts here met her and tried to treat her like a piece of meat and suggested she don't give a shite, I'd have no hesitation in telling them to take their empty characters and morals elsewhere.

Men have feelings and so do LBs. Albeit theirs are enhanced / skewed perhaps. They may be as cold as some men can be or as empathetic and kind as other men can be. My own suspicion is that most of them are more on the empathetic side than the average man, though life experience may harden them.

Anyway, they're just some of my thoughts and experiences offered in return of those who offered their's.

[ladyboyluva]

(Stealth @ May 17 2009,01:16) Guy`s are not standing in line to begin a relationship or getting married with a ladyboy knowing the fact that the community will reject them or they will get ugly names , By now most ladyboy`s know that.

So the few that are willing to go all the way to find there love ones in thailand and take them back home to get married and live happy ever afther is not much.
Most ladyboy have a to high expectation of how the other country is where they are going to live the rest of there live`s.
so when they come her most will be disappointed and want to go back but most can not because of already made obligations.

Here in europe there are many ladyboy`s that came with a boyfriend then broke up and endup behind glass window working for a pimp that dont give a shit abouth them.
Dont get me wrong there are many LB`s that make it fine over here i have meet different once that hold high possitions at there work place and that`s married for year now.
I have even meet some that have adopted childeren so there are also some good story`s that succeed.

Then again ( What does LB`s think abouth us ) they think that we are the best way out for them to have a better living.
then it`s up to the ladyboy lover to prepare his LB for the upcoming event`s that will have to happend at the moment and in the futher so she have a good idea what to expect when she reach the other side of the world and in my judgement this does not happend
and to explain the word , lucky
You must be lucky that she can coupe with her new lifstyle.

Cheers , Stealth

Good points Stealth and thanks for the observations.

I would have dated LBs years ago if not for the fear of the social consequences you mentioned, but with time I've grown to not worry so much about what others think.

I do worry about how a LB partner will fit in here in Australia though. It won't be an easy transition I imagine. Hence the importance of feedback from those who have tried / seen and thought about such situations.

[ladyboyluva]

(Stogie @ May 16 2009,18:48) My relationships with all ladyboys is how I wanted my relationship with all GGs to be when I grew up...

I am happier in a relationship but happy to screw around in between them!

I've had three ladyboy girlfriends and about 100 LB lovers...

That's all I ever wanted.

So what do they think of me? Hansum when I'm bar fining them and a waste of fucking space when I'm not!  

Your 3 girlfriends also thought like that?

[PanzerPorn]

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,01:52)

(Stogie @ May 16 2009,18:48) My relationships with all ladyboys is how I wanted my relationship with all GGs to be when I grew up...

I am happier in a relationship but happy to screw around in between them!

I've had three ladyboy girlfriends and about 100 LB lovers...

That's all I ever wanted.

So what do they think of me? Hansum when I'm bar fining them and a waste of fucking space when I'm not!  

Your 3 girlfriends also thought like that?

No, he was paying them not to think so

[kahuna]

(ladyboyluva @ May 17 2009,01:37) While some seem to think this subject is either re-hashing or irrelevant to the majority of the audience, it seems to have gathered more responses in a couple of days than some of the best and dirtiest trip threads. So it's hardly irrelevant subject matter.

Not exactly true...

20% of the posts are yours...

Another 50% are 1 or 2 liners most of which do not speak to the subject...whatever that actually might be...

That leaves 30% on topic posts...that is just a little over one screen page of posts...

My observation is...You asked a question, albeit a rather nebulous one, and when some very experienced guys replied,
you berated them for not agreeing with you...And you applauded those who gave you the answers you want to hear...

If you believe that you truly love this PI transgendered or transsexual person...what the fuck are you doing on a porn site asking such a stupid question...

[PanzerPorn]

(jimslim @ May 16 2009,20:54) I think some people here are in danger of over analyzing things ...........

We are far from the most important things in their lives ,they are just good at pretending we are .

Be yourself , have fun and enjoy yourself with some of the most beautiful creatures on this planet , and don't take it all to serious , tis the path to ladyboy happiness my friends ...........

That's the best answer so far, only one problem here, they could change the way you are easily if you are too kind to let them do it but it's totally impossibile you could change the way they are just a bit.
If it seems to you they are evolving in a new form of wonderful lover thanks to you gay love , well they deserve this:

[Stealth]

To tell you honestly i am also thinking of one day to give it a tray with a Singapore or Malaysian ladyboy which i find to be the most beautifull ladyboy`s to walk the face of earth but then i will like to have a open relationship with other words i can do what ever i want to do and she can also do what ever she want to do
But we are commited to each other in the sence that i am there when she needs me and she is there when i need her.
You may think how will this work out , easy when i retire i will spend 6 month`s on a tour going every month to a other asian country and offcourse i will visit her also when it`s summer here i will bring her with me , or maybe i will have 2 or 3 different LB`s depends on how it all work out.

But until now i am a ladyboy lover and i have many many as friends some LB`s i sponser for a limit time with hormoons so that they will stay in shape others that i like but need some extra help i send some money to buy small things like telephone to stay in contact etc etc.
and will pick the fruit later when i go to them on vacation then they will look as girly as possible.

What i find to be so interresting is the difference in the many lb`s all over the world and i have meet a lot of them , like next year i am going to the fillippines for a 3 week tour and i have already contact with different girls there and there you see again that they think completly different then there sisters some where else.
What does the fillippines LB`s think abouth us , 100% walking ATM machines and if that does not do it they want to have you as a boyfriend to get as soon as possible out of there country , sometime i get real crazy abouth there countless begging for money  

Cheers , Stealth

[PanzerPorn]

(Stealth @ May 17 2009,02:40) What i find to be so interresting is the difference in the many lb`s all over the world and i have meet a lot of them

Sponsoring with hormones is pretty creepy Doctor Frankenstein!!!
At least i can see a point in doing that , create your perfect cyborg and then fuck him senseless when you are back!!!!!!

Yes, many filipino hookers or male sex workers want to be
sponsored before you see them in person so they can keep on getting fat with junk food with no worries.
Thai gg or ladyboys (they are THAI only) at least are so kind to let you smell their genitals before you will empty your bank account for love.
Just different ways of payments coming from different cultural backgrounds.
There are thousands of Ts, all different, the only common denominator in a failure ....are SPONSORS!!!!!!

[robbo]

haha smart

[Stealth]

i dont see the point in been so negative in your posting , everybody is intitle to live there live the way they want to and my sponsering is only for a limmited time and who told you that i did not see them already ??
to judge people the way you do is strange every body live`s there life the way they want to , who are you to judge them ??
and we are here online to support ladyboy`s in every way possible there is no need to be so rude.


Cheers , Stealth

[PanzerPorn]

(Stealth @ May 17 2009,03:52) and we are here online to support ladyboy`s in every way possible there is no need to be so rude.

This forum it's not a compassionate Mission for poor transgenders from the third world and i'm not a gay rights activist.
And yes i'm cynical and rude......SO WHAT? ( screamed with a annoying ladyboy voice).

Keep on sponsoring if you think it's good for you, i keep on playing with cocks but i don't blame the world when somebody with no gay sensibility call me faggot.

Have a nice day at Western Union.