Bar girls are Prostitutes...

[Road Runner]

(JaiDee @ Apr. 10 2009,15:26) Didn't we all know this already?

Something along that line crossed my mind also.

RR.

[manarak]

(bangkoksins @ Apr. 10 2009,13:06) So am I the only one that regards them as pros or do you all prefer the name Bar Girls?

I thinkits fantastic that their culture doesn't look down on bargirls so much.

I presume the above quote comes from someone who does not live here for a very long time?

Regardless, a pro is a pro and if you are sending her money monthly then think again.

I repeate I have not been stung, I am just trying to change the mentality and I am sure it is a losing battle but it could ultimately save some idiot a lot of money.

the part I don't get is why you want to help an idiot keep his money?

He's an idiot, so he'll lose it anyway.

[robbo]

this is such an old chestnut its kind of boring,who cares prostitutes or not?
the girls you go with in LOS may well be pros,but when we are over there they are bargirls and gogogirls, i like the term bargirl,im damn sure if you call "your girl" prostitute to her face it would not go down well, they know they are pros but prefer a nicer tag and still to be treated with respect.
prostitutes, drug addict scum, rip off smelly skank ,shark has beens are what you find in the west.i for one dont go near them. they own the term prostitute it suits.

[Hilbie Paratodos]

their all whores,,,,,,,,anybody confused over this is just to typsy on booze and needs a few days per trip in the kingdom to relax and realize how fun it is to be unemotional and have sex with gorgeous girls for free or for 15-25 bucks- dont fall for a trap and get thaied down with bullshite, just have your fuck fest and go back home-

[guydesavoy]

(Drift Spunk @ Apr. 10 2009,21:39) what makes me laugh is the "bf's" having to pay there "gf's" after sex.

After BH's 10 Commandments, I think that one says it all....unfortunately

[Road Runner]

If you do the arithmetic it's cheaper to pay a P4P girl per time than it is to get married or have a long term girlfriend.

RR.

[guydesavoy]

(Road Runner @ Apr. 11 2009,03:48) If you do the arithmetic it's cheaper to pay a P4P girl per time than it is to get married or have a long term girlfriend.

RR.

Too true.

No such thing as a free lunch

[jimslim]

Like the avatar , is that Vivian in her jammies

[sev7en]

(Drift Spunk @ Apr. 10 2009,21:39) what makes me laugh is the "bf's" having to pay there "gf's" after sex. am crying for ya's  

But you don´t . You´re the only one in Los who doesn´t pay for sex

[azza33]

I'm just shattered.. all this time i tell my mummy.. i meet lovely lady in bar every trip.. she so nice girl

Now i just learn i have been sleeping with prostitutes I feel so unclean

[Master Bator]

(Drift Spunk @ Apr. 10 2009,21:39) The answer is quite simple and it's also easy to deceive yourself to think otherwise. giving money or goods in exchange for sex is prostitution,

No, it is called doing business. They are businesswomen.

And I just love doing this everyday business...

[batman4ever]

(bangkoksins @ Apr. 10 2009,10:15) If you have not read Stephen Leather's book Private Dancer then you should as there is no clearer way of describing or explaining the Thai girlie/lb/guy - bar scene.

All women working in bars where their bodies are for sale are prostitutes.

There is no - I am special - She is just....  - but somehow the label bar girl paints a prettier picture than prostitue.

In the UK with a pro you will be in and out quite literally. The more expensive ones will cull you and make you feel that little bit more special but ultimately they are pros.

I have nothing against being a pro, have been one myself albeit unknowingly, but I post this as I hope some visitors to Thailand will not get confused.

I am sure I will get flamed but I hear so many farangs tell me that it is different with X. Ha!!

Pay 2 Play should remain as such. There are plenty of women LB's that will show you equal devotion and take your money but they have not been with 10000s of men!!

No, I have not been stung, but just want to make sure newbies to Thailand and even a few that are not newbies never forget - if she is in a bar selling her bod then she is a pro - and few are better than the Thai pros at extracting your well earned cash.

this is proberly the most "i have been stung" tread iwe seen so far...

and please...please.... explain this:

There are plenty of women LB's

because iwe read it a few times...and still dont get it....

its not excatly einstein math. here....they do sell their body...so per def. they of course is prostitutes....but like stogie said....who cares...if they prefer to be called bargirls....then why not do it... or do you feel better if you call them prostitutes??? its just the same if you call them guys...instead of girls...

and yes.... thai girls....and LB`s does seem to sell a bit more than just their bodies....they sometimes will sell you the GFE.... do they actually means it...??? who knows.....and who cares.... as long as it is nice to both parts....then why bother....

and BTW.... the private dancer is utterly BS IMHO....poorly written..... and you would actually learn more from two hours of reading in here....

[guydesavoy]

(jimslim @ Apr. 11 2009,07:03)
Like the avatar , is that Vivian in her jammies  

No, but this one is

[JaiDee]

(Hilbie Paratodos @ Apr. 11 2009,03:28) how fun it is to be unemotional and have sex with gorgeous girls for free or for 15-25 bucks- dont fall for a trap and get thaied down with bullshite, just have your fuck fest and go back home-

I've been trying to tell people this for years now;  it's like swimming upriver, however,  as most guys think only THEY can beat the system.

  But they can't of course; bargirls are very good [even if they are relatively new to the scene] at pulling on westerners' heart strings  .... errrr, perhaps that is why they are called "Pros" as in professionals?  So, many guys between 30 and 60 will go to BKK, screw one or 2 cute ones and fall in love with someone who is 21 who gives 'em mind-blowing sex and treats them well and they of course think that she is ''the one''; some pillow talk, tears, some shopping, etc..... usually help this along as well.

       Pre-planning is even worse; making a list of girls to screw or contacting 'em in advance is the absolute WORST way to go about a trip to Thailand, and in my opinion staying with one girl for more than a few hours is as well.  It oftentimes leads to someone getting emotionally attached and that always ends in disaster.

     despite the misspellings from dear  mister Hilbie Paratodos his take on how to do ladyboy sex tourism is spot on.

[Drift Spunk]

(Master Bator @ Apr. 11 2009,13:12)

(Drift Spunk @ Apr. 10 2009,21:39) The answer is quite simple and it's also easy to deceive yourself to think otherwise. giving money or goods in exchange for sex is prostitution,

No, it is called doing business. They are businesswomen.

And I just love doing this everyday business...

Looking forward to picking up some entrepreneurs on beach road soon