LB lover is manager in a large swiss bank...

[abba]

Hallo,

lass es besser sein, respektiere sein Privatleben.
Für viele ist es peinlich, wenn andere wissen, dass sie LB's mögen..

Gruss Petrus

I have taken the liberty of translating the above:
"Leave it be; respect his "private-life".
For many, it is embarassing, when others know, that they like ladyboys..

Regards Petrus"


( I felt that it deserved a translation. )

[doitrong]

dont worry ...he is probably a member of this forum and has died in the ass knowing his little secret is out

is he married or single?

if he is married ask him if his wife knows that he is a cock sucking faggot....

and if he is single then why not have a work collegue you can have a chat with....

take some pics into work and see wat he has to say....

I show my workmates all the time and tell them that i am not gay unless my girlfriend has aBigger cock than me.....

these guys think that i am joking, most are all married with children and i am sure would lopve to suck some ladyboy cock if they had the chance....

go for it....

[doug]

(seamus @ Dec. 31 2008,12:43)

(doug @ Dec. 31 2008,04:28) I'd be too busy think about losing my wife, my job, my home, my family, my friends, etc....

If I had a wife & kids, I wouldnt be fucking LB's in the first place

I was speaking hypothetically, but in all likelihood, this "bank manager" guy probably has a wife and kids, just like many guys who come to Thailand "on business".

Personally, I would never cheat on my girlfriend (I don't need to anyway, since she's a freak, but even if she wasn't, I don't think it's the right thing to do). But many guys have a different point of view and who am I to judge?

I think it's wrong to cheat, but then again, a lot of people think it's wrong to pay a girl for sex too, so I'll just sit quietly in my glass house like a good boy.

The point is, that in the eyes of many people (including some of us on the forums if we're honest with ourselves), what we do is "wrong". And it's certainly going to be "wrong" in the eyes of this guy's wife, family, friends, and company.

So just because the OP is making the same fucked-up life choices (in the eyes of society) as the "bank manager" doesn't mean that they're automatically going to be BFF.

In a perfect world, this bank manager would be able to admit to himself and the world that he loves having casual sex with ladyboys, and all his friends and coworkers would be like, "That's great, you should invite a few to the next company picnic!"

The reality, however, is that a lot of guys grow up in situations that are a lot less accepting. They take on the "role" of husband and father because they feel pressured by society to "be normal", but they come to Thailand to explore their "true nature".

So for some guys, it comes down to a choice between "cheating on their wives" or "being true to themselves". I still think they're wrong to do it, but who am I to judge?

[petrus]

(Dieter @ Dec. 31 2008,01:23) tja....Es gibt Leute die verstehen einen Witz und andere... ?


Dieter

Nein, ich meinte nicht die Anspielung auf Fotos und was man damit machen kann.. ich weiss, dass es als Witz gemeint war.
Ich meinte nur, dass der Banker es sicher nicht so cool findet, wenn man ihn auf sein "Hobby" anspricht...
sowieso wenn er gerade unter Stress leidet bei der UBS....? ...ups... ;-)

[Lefty]

(seamus @ Dec. 31 2008,00:43)

(doug @ Dec. 31 2008,04:28) I'd be too busy think about losing my wife, my job, my home, my family, my friends, etc....

If I had a wife & kids, I wouldnt be fucking LB's in the first place

I half agree. What does having kids got to do with it, as long as you are not married?

[manarak]

heh - it is interesting to read your replies.

It's an illegal (technically) activity that's frowned upon by most of society. So how exactly would one break the ice in that situation? Would you walk up to him and say, "Hey, I noticed that we both like break'n the law, cheating on our wives, and fucking boys half our age! Wanna hang out?"

Nah, the guy's not married, and what we are doing with ladyboys is not illegal in any way you put it.
Where did you hear that fucking ladyboys is illegal?

I still got no private message, by the way... :-(

[doug]

(manarak @ Dec. 31 2008,14:01) Nah, the guy's not married, and what we are doing with ladyboys is not illegal in any way you put it.
Where did you hear that fucking ladyboys is illegal?

Prostitution is actually illegal in Thailand (yah, I know, this is Thailand, so take that with a grain of salt).

And it is almost certainly illegal in most countries back in Europe and North America. Even in those places were it is legal, its generally not something people blurt out when they first meet someone, like, "Hi, I'm John and I'm a john!"

Yeah, I know, speeding is also illegal in most countries, and that doesn't stop people from doing it every day. That said, most people don't see being a reckless driver as a source of pride.

I'm not judging, in fact I was very clear to say I wasn't judging. But society judges. And some people happen to live and work in normal society.

The fact that you want to share your "hobby with someone else at work, and the fact that you see it as a harmless "hobby" and you also think that it is "not illegal in any way", then you're probably a bit more into "the life" than most guys.

Good for you. You're a lucky man. But that probably means there are fewer consequences for you and/or you don't care about them. Not every guy is in your situation. For some guys, there would be very real and very bad consequences if people found out they were not only a "john", but a ladyboy-fucking "john".

That's probably the norm, in fact, and you're probably the exception to the rule. If you're comfortable enough with your "hobby", that's great. But you should probably try to find other "buddies" who are equally comfortable. They'll actually appreciate your offer to be a "wingman".

Someone who's still "in the closet" about being a ladyboy-fucking "john" is not going to appreciate your efforts to "out" him, no matter how well-intended or discrete you are about it.

[olekunde]

(Naang Faa @ Dec. 31 2008,00:43) Best not,you know how funny people can be about their "secrets"..

 If you did though,how would you break the ice?
                                                                            x

how about: "i got a cock too, for free"

[manarak]

Doug... I see so very much mainstream misconceptions in what you wrote, I have to correct some

Prostitution is actually illegal in Thailand (yah, I know, this is Thailand, so take that with a grain of salt).

Yes, but hiring a prostitute is not, except if she is younger than 18.

And it is almost certainly illegal in most countries back in Europe and North America.

Actually, prostitution is legal in most european countries.
I'm not sure about Canada.
In Switzerland and Germany, prostitution and brothels are legal.
In Switzerland, the age of consent is 16.

Even in those places were it is legal, its generally not something people blurt out when they first meet someone, like, "Hi, I'm John and I'm a  john!"

Yes, but when you have been working together for some time, it is really a common thing to talk about it. Most of our international customers and brokers like to have some evening entertainment when they visit Switzerland.
In the ten meters around me there are at least 4 Johns.
The only hazard is with the ladyboys, because although the Johns are quite open about their Johnness, many are hostile to LBs.

Yeah, I know, speeding is also illegal in most countries, and that doesn't stop people from doing it every day.  That said, most people don't see being a reckless driver as a source of pride.

In Germany, many highway parts regarded as "safe" do not have a speed limit. We sometimes take cars there to let the engine power unfold.
Another misconception about speeding is that driving at high speeds equals reckless driving.
It does not. Speed can be too high for a given situation, but driving at 200 KmH is not necessarily too fast in all situations.

But that probably means there are fewer consequences for you and/or you don't care about them.  Not every guy is in your situation.  For some guys, there would be very real and very bad consequences if people found out they were not only a "john", but a ladyboy-fucking "john".

Wise words - the consequences are about the same as for others, but I think I have grown into not caring too much about it anymore, even if I am careful what I tell to whom.

If you're comfortable enough with your "hobby", that's great.  But you should probably try to find other "buddies" who are equally comfortable.  They'll actually appreciate your offer to be a "wingman".

That's also what I hope.

Someone who's still "in the closet" about being a ladyboy-fucking "john" is not going to appreciate your efforts to "out" him, no matter how well-intended or discrete you are about it.

I'm not doing anything in that direction.
The info I have given about him is enough for him to know that I mean him, but it doesn't allow for his identification by anyone.
There are so much people in my company whose last name ends with N and whose first name ends with D that the employee directory gave back the error "too much results". I checked that before I posted.
I first wanted to post his initials, thinking there are enough people with those around, but the resultset was only a few hundred, so if you take out the women and the non-senior managers, only a handful of names remained.

I would never ever "OUT" someone with that kind of info!

[manarak]

(olekunde @ Dec. 31 2008,14:32)

(Naang Faa @ Dec. 31 2008,00:43) Best not,you know how funny people can be about their "secrets"..

 If you did though,how would you break the ice?
                                                                            x

how about: "i got a cock too, for free"

@olekunde  Hehe... but that is not my style! BTW: are there already some threads on the forum explaining about not being gay and stuff?

Actually, I came to the conclusion that sending him an anwerable anonymous private message would be the best.
But to protect his privacy, I would not want to use his company mail address or anything else other people might read.

Actually, since I got his mobile phone number, I could use my thai phone to send him an SMS, but then again, I don't know who is going to read it.

So the forum came to mind, taking a chance that he reads here.

If I get no reaction, then maybe I try another "specialized" forum.

He could even be registered on my own site!

[robbo]

this is an extremely bizzare thread, banking workers contemplating some sort of respect/loyalty/honesty to eachother/fellow humans?recent history could suggest that this is indeed the basic plot to a new science fiction novel,..........

[sev7en]

(seamus @ Dec. 31 2008,12:43)

(doug @ Dec. 31 2008,04:28) I'd be too busy think about losing my wife, my job, my home, my family, my friends, etc....

If I had a wife & kids, I wouldnt be fucking LB's in the first place

Too true. Tough luck if this banker cheats on his family by fucking young boys on the side.
Go up to him and share your fav lb pics

[sev7en]

(doug @ Dec. 31 2008,12:28) "Hey, I noticed that we both like break'n the law, cheating on our wives, and fucking boys half our age!  Wanna hang out?"

[EyeMahk]

(manarak @ Dec. 31 2008,05:21) Actually, I came to the conclusion that sending him an anwerable anonymous private message would be the best.
But to protect his privacy, I would not want to use his company mail address or anything else other people might read.

Actually, since I got his mobile phone number, I could use my thai phone to send him an SMS

Your original question was "should I make contact?" And despite the wise words you have read here (especially from Doug), you're going to make contact? I expect those that recommend making contact are winding you up a bit.

You've got lots of people on this forum to hang out with when you are in Thailand, there is really no reason to involve your workplace in your hobby (unless you don't like your job). But perhaps it is exciting to "play with fire." You'll find out how much he really values his privacy ...

BTW, how much does it cost to hire a hitman in Switzerland?

Personally, I think it is a very bad idea, and an invasion of his privacy that nothing good can come from, but as they say here ... up to you?

[manarak]

unless you don't like your job

so true...

you're going to make contact?

well, if you read thoroughly my last posts, you would know that I will not go further than the forum post which does not even allow his colleagues or relatives to remotely identify him.

There are 2 big banks in Switzerland with about 45000 and 65000 employees, and respectively about 4000 and 6000 senior managers... Between the two I estimate that about 150 to 200 persons are male, a senior manager, and have the mentioned last letters.
Plus, the employee lists are not normally accessible in a way that lets you search for last letters in names...

So stop to claim I am invading his privacy. Nobody can ID him with the info I gave, and he can't ID me.