Some people have money to burn...

[paultain]

Funny I don't remember mentioning any amount of money, and payments. And this is not meant to be any advice, but an observation. And since living there, spending 2-3 months a year since that in Thailand, does not mean I am out of touch.

[kahuna]

(paultain @ Dec. 24 2008,10:45)


Funny I don't remember mentioning any amount of money, and payments. And this is not meant to be any advice, but an observation.


It seems to me that a lot of members on this site have money to burn. And I feel I must bring you back to reality.Now back in the old day's it was half the price to fuck a LB than a GG. (A lot of you guy's remember that) Now you guys are paying more than double to fuck a LB, Than a GG.

The reason why is, some of you guys think as each year passes, the older you are, the more you have to pay.

after these questions are answered, will get a better genuine good time than a twat looking his standards, that's got money to burn, and paying through the nose for the same thing.
I would not call him a cheep charley, but a smarter person than the one who call's him so.

Take a look at our hero Billy69 for example, he always has a better time and report and envied than most of the guy's that has money to burn.  

Now lets take a break form this advice for a moment and post some pic's...

Bullfuckingshit...

You can't deny what you posted...It's in black and white for all to read...

I am genuinely sorry now that I dignified your inane rant with a reply...

[PigDogg]

(kahuna @ Dec. 23 2008,23:05) It's a paradox in a paradigm...

Or perhaps an enigma wrapped in a riddle?

[f0xxee]

Its Horses for courses.

Look I don't get much time off, even though I live in the literal neighborhood of LOS. If I only have a week off and a wallet full of fun tickets then I tend to want to make sure they are all gone, even to the last minute book buying splurge at the airport. If I were there longer I may be less generous, but one way or another (camera gear, electronics, ladyboys) I spend it. Its the "sailor ashore" syndrome and I enjoy it heartily.

I watched different players in the last two weeks, and compared them.

I sat in SF in Patts and watched two gents make a coffee last an hour and a half while two LB's got ther cocks out and let him almost bring them to vinegar. The bar made a cup of coffee the girls not even a drink. It pissed me off. The girls are doing it hard at the moment. Sure these two grand old men could have bought them a drink each for their trouble?
OK, its a free world, but face it, we are there because we have had the blessing of being born in the right place and failing that born in the wrong place but having the guts and intelligence to overcome it. This talk or raising the market price is bullshit. If the girls are seriously discounting its because they are hurting. IF the market is flooded with falangs and they are having 3 ST's a night they probably can't be fucked going through with the 4th guy, even if he is Brad Pitt. How many times do you like having your hole invaded by strangers in a night? (Whistle it, it sounds better.) If you are Brad Pitt you might get it cheaper but I doubt it. If you are Don Rickles with a walking frame and a pace maker spend it! It might be your last!

Also you raise Quantity vs Quality.

Quantity: I don't know 69Billy and have not any right to judge how he enjoys his fun. He enjoys it. if he likes lots of quantity but also has a heart big enough to look after the odd girl with something special be it a holiday or a set of fangs then I think thats a sign of an honorable man. He is giving something back to a society that he obviously enjoys. Also if bargaining is a part of his fun, well good for him. Some have that background. Others of us don't. Others have catholic guilt or a range of other emotions surface during the transaction stage.

Quality: Some guys like the "Girl friend experience". I know it's my preference. For one I avoid the "Hello hansum man, what your name, where you come from, where you stay" routine every night I go out. Also it means I get a playmate during the day to hang out with.This is my thing. So it tends to breed opportunities to shop for them, as they are masterful navigators of all things material.

At the end of the day you are there for a holiday. If were all the same it would be all back-packers hostels or all all 5 star hotels. Find a girl you like, at a price that makes you both smile and get on with it. If winning the bargaining is overly important you may miss what you went there for in the first place, a good and satisfying shag.

PS: Stogie: What do they say about me? I am sure falang bah comes into it somewhere....

[f0xxee]

One last thought:

Who would agree that the profile of ladyboys as sexual partners has boomed in the last 15 years of easily available internet porn? Perhaps that is why their prices have escalated? Supply is the same, but the demand has increased astoundingly?

I didn't know such a creature existed until I was about 26. (Pre internet.) I thought those 6'3' chicks with shoulders and hairy legs out side the docks were having menopause problems.

[EyeMahk]

(paultain @ Dec. 23 2008,23:10) Now these days, the table has turned, the LB's like to charge more than a GG, did you ever realize that. But why is that?

Every trip, I fuck LBs and GGs in both Pattaya and Bangkok. Lots of them. My sample size is fairly large for both GGs and LBs. I have found that it is NOT true that LBs want to charge more than GG. Cost depends on the city, the venue in that city and the quality of the LB/GG.

[EyeMahk]

(rxpharm @ Dec. 24 2008,01:04) You still have not explained why punters who pay 500 Baht ST and 1000 Bath LT are heroes, nor have you explained why you feel lbs are spoiled.

In looking at paultain's posts, he has never written a figure of what is reasonable and what is too much. In fact, there are no baht numbers (500,100, 2000, etc.) in any of his posts. He is just talking in vague terms. Maybe he thinks 2000 ST is reasonable and 3000 ST is over the top?

As paultain makes a few trips a year, perhaps he can clarify what he payed last trip for ST and LT with a a quality LB and a quality GG at various venues in Pattaya and Bangkok. Then this discussion will have context rather than being a windup.

[jimslim]

This thread is based on one guys opinion with no facts to back it up .

I've had some great times in my trips to Thailand , could you please give me some evidence of someone else enjoying their time more , and tell me precisely how you gauge that

[Naang Faa]

Now you guys are paying more than double to fuck a LB, Than a GG.

You know the rise in surgery tourism has upped the price breasts ect well above inflation,yeah?
It has become pricey to maintain their looks.it'sa life time thing for these girls long after they pass
your self determined shag by date..money is essential for this.

Anyhoo, just as a thought, have attitudes in Thais changed in this 15 yr period? more western
consumerism,wanting more luxury stuff like the rest of the world? All costs.

It does seem to me some guys are only happy when the girls are struggling and can pick
a looker up for the price of 40 cigarettes yet call them spoiled they sell themselves for the
cost of a meal in the west...lovley!

Perhaps the customer was the spoiled one,i mean maybe,one day,if the cheap charlies get
their way,it will become not worth the effort for a girl to barwork and the decent will all take the
Euro route and then what?
So please just appreciate what you have available to you.Personally i'd rather they became a
rich mans muse than charlies victim...but i would wouldn't I..
x

[pacman]

(Naang Faa @ Dec. 25 2008,00:51)   Perhaps the customer was the spoiled one,i mean maybe,one day,if the cheap charlies get
their way,it will become not worth the effort for a girl to barwork and the decent will all take the
Euro route and then what?
  So please just appreciate what you have available to you.Personally i'd rather they became a
rich mans muse than charlies victim...but i would wouldn't I..
                                                                                                   

I like the sentiment Naang, always a pleasure to get your take on the scene from the side of the girls.

I have ALWAYS appreciated what is available in LOS, I travelled the world to realise there is nowhere like it.

The refined occupants of LB Towers may choose to opt for the Euro escape, they get to spend time there & learn the differences in culture, etc, but I can't see many of the Pattaya & Phuket girls ever being able to settle outside Thailand for life.

The reality is that the girls will face the changing market conditions the same as they always have dealt with difficulties........with stoicism & humour.

The better looking, nicer personality girls will survive in better shape, those with less to offer will make do anyway they can.

There will be no way to stop the "bargain hunters" preying on the girls circumstances, these sharks of humanity surface wherever they see an opportunity,

I would hope that the regulars to LOS have the decency to pay a fair price, trying to exploit any P4P worker is contemptible.

[mardhi]

I'd hazzard a guess that the reason the LB's are earning more bucks per bang is probably due to the severe decline in good looking GG's especially in average gogo's - just 5 years, the situation was very very different. Plus as others have said, the internet has really widened the LB market with probably no more than 25 stunning LB's on everyones lips - the same cannot be said of average GG's - they tend to not have such high internet exposure.

Equally though are the very valid points mentioned by Nang Fah plus what to me is obvious - the LB 'buying' market tends to be cautious - so they take feedback from forums like this about gals who deliver the goods, dont steal and/or have temper tantrums - they seem to be always in demand and I suspect a lot of guys are happy to pay a premium not to have one shouting her head off in the corridor of his 5* business hotel. Its one thing to joke among beers with your work colleagues about a GG conquest gone wrong - but it takes the average guy to a whole different level when its a LB.

Cheers
Mardhi

[Otho]

I agree entirely.

Quite often on these forums you get posters saying that other people shouldn't pay more because "it spoils it for the rest of us." I don't buy it. It's unfair on the providers and anyway it's simplistic.

Right outside where I work, there's a supermarket. Sometimes when I finish work at the end of the day, I want a packet of cigarettes. The checkouts are really busy as it's evening rush hour. If I go to the separate cigarette stall in the supermarket, I don't have to queue but I do have to pay 1 dirham (roughly 25 cents) more than I'd pay if I queued for 10-15 minutes at the checkout. So I pay the extra cos I want to go home. If that means I'm spoiling it for people who don't think cigarettes should be that expensive, I'm sorry but I don't care.

[TEXASMAC]

What you mean the LB's only love us for our money? You mean I am not a 48 year with the build of a 24 year old stud?

[Naang Faa]

(pacman @ Dec. 24 2008,19:24) I like the sentiment Naang, always a pleasure to get your take on the scene from the side of the girls.

Yup,and not the slightest bit bias in anyway whatsoever
x

[pacman]

(mardhi @ Dec. 25 2008,01:27) I'd hazzard a guess that the reason the LB's are earning more bucks per bang is probably due to the severe decline in good looking GG's especially in average gogo's - just 5 years, the situation was very very different.  

   I have been wondering what has happened to the gorgeous creatures who worked the bars in times past. With the looks & poise of a supermodel, they are so rarely sighted in recent years.

I would add that a beautiful girl entering the P4P biz is there for one reason - score a rich farang & get out. They are all too aware of the risks they face.

And one thing that hasn't changed, the propensity for tourists to fall in love with these girls. So even if they haven't left the country, there is a constant flow of money into Thailand by some guy paying to keep his girl out of the bar.

I can't blame the girls for accepting such an arrangement.

Now with the coming collapse of the Thai economy, just how many new beauties will start to appear? Some of them will give the best of the LB scene a real run for their money.

Not that that will be of concern to many on here, this is afterall the Ladyboy Forums.