Are LB's ok with only "giving" and no return?

[deepthroat]

arghh! As usual (damn these girls move around a lot) "Manami" is not shown as one of the girls working there.... anyone got any clues where to find her now? And Surropan mentions that she's "widely known" as the horniest chick in LOS - can anyone point me in the direction of similar intel? I'm assuming her talents are mentioned on other boards or in other threads (along with other similarly talented individuals). Anyone willing to point me in the general direction of further info? Thanks in advance.

[surropan]

Oh, wait... I actually made a mistake. Manami is only the second best oral I've had... I forgot. The best, which I don't usually bother to mention on this site because most posters aren't into guys, was free, at Babylon Sauna, Bangkok. It's a gay sauna-- the most famous in the world (its off Sathorn Soi 1). It may appeal to you, deepthroat, as you mentioned you are not particularly opposed to bj's form guys. They have a dark room there, which is pitch black, and I wandered in and received a bj that simply cannot compare to any I've ever experienced-- I could barely walk afterwards. It was probably cuz of the fact that it was purely physical and I couldn't see anything. If you are looking for pure pleasure, go there and go to the dark room on the 2nd floor-- only 230 bht for entry and you can get your junk sucked probably five times in a day.

[surropan]

As to Manami-- no idea where she is now. But, yes she has been mentioned on several sites. I can't come up with any direct links off the top of my head, but she is indeed well known. I seem to remember a post about her even on this site. And it's definitely not 'superstar syndrome'-- she really is that good. I believe that she may literally be a nymphomaniac.

[deepthroat]

Thanks much. And before we go down that road too far... I prefer there being an element that allows me to at least fantasize that it's a chick doing the sucking. That's why the bj's I've received from dudes have all been in the peep booths - I was watching a bj video (of a GG) and could connect with that visually while getting my "junk sucked" (love the term!). Just don't want to start to stray too far afield but appreciate the input.

[jonstroud]

I've found the more experienced LB hookers tend to know what you want before you ask them, and if all you want is a BJ they are more than happy to oblige. As it's Friday, go out for a nice dinner, have a few relaxing drinks in a regular bar and then go to the LB bar of your choice. If you're still not sure how she's going to behave, just tell your partner to keep her panties on. She'll figure out what you want.

[jadeite]

There is a huge difference between what you see on the internet and the reality of the Thai ladyboy. In my many years with them, I would venture to say 99% (remember I said 99%, not 100%) a Thai ladyboy:

1. Works at the bar for the money, not the sex. They want to do as little as possible and in the shortest time so they can get to the next customer. Simple as that.

2. Takes hormones. The side effect is decreased sexual function. Some cannot get hard. Some cannot cum. Some have a shriveled up, tiny cock. But people don't like to talk about that or show photos of it, perpetuating a myth.

3. Believes she is a girl. She would have been happier if born without a cock. Some hide it and some get it removed. Some of the brand new girls do not know customers like it and tape it back. Only the experienced know a panty bulge is a better lure. Many are embarassed to have it touched, but it comes with the job and they will do whatever you want.

4. Do not want to top. They want to be topped and treated like a girl. The prevalance of tops is totally blown out of proportion on this forum. Tops are pretty easy to distinguish. If she is hard at the bar and whispers "I can do everything" you have found a top candidate. But mostly they will be limp and looking simply to get you off, especially the most feminine looking ones.

So to answer the original question, don't let the perverts wet dreams on this board dissuade you from the reality. The girls will love you because it will be short, they don't have to do much, and is compatible with the guy-girl model. In short, you are a match made in heaven for them.

[deepthroat]

WHOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome jadeite, you just made my night. Add to that that a GG here in Seattle is coming over who is legendary in my small circle of monger friends as one who can deepthroat anything you point at her, and I'm in heaven this evening. Thanks a bajillion.

Reminds me of my favorite joke. President Bush has his morning cabinet meeting, and Condi informs him that 2 Brazilian soldiers were killed overnight in action in Fallujah. Bush turns white as a ghost, puts his head in his hands and starts wailing. "Oh my god my god my god" he shrieks as he rocks himself back and forth in his chair. After a few moments of shocked silence the other cabinet members look at each other with quizical expressions. Finally pulling himself together, Bush turns to Condi and says "Remind me again - just how many is a Brazillion?"

[kahuna]

(jadeite @ Oct. 31 2008,09:32) There is a huge difference between what you see on the internet and the reality of the Thai ladyboy. In my many years with them, I would venture to say 99% (remember I said 99%, not 100%) a Thai ladyboy:

What a load of half-truths...

If you really believe this, I have a bridge for sale...

[TTChang]

Well, at least Jadeite's posts are informative, not just dismissive!  He did say 'in his experience'  ... not 'in the all-knowing kahuna's experience'.

I guess you just come across a different selection, so why 'half truth'?  Matter of opinion, I'd say. My opinion is ... not 99% ... but quite enough to satisfy deepthroat's needs.   I venture to suggest (not sure, mind you ) that jadeite's #1 is spot on, which is what I was trying to say earlier in the thread.  Deepthroat  won't have a problem   ....  
and I still think I'm going to get a free dinner  

[kaos]

i second jadeite point by point, in my experience and i met a lot of lbs.
deepthroat you ll have no problem in your endevour.

[kahuna]

(TTChang @ Oct. 31 2008,15:45) Well, at least Jadeite's posts are informative, not just dismissive!  He did say 'in his experience'  ... not 'in the all-knowing kahuna's experience'.

Sorry if I was dismissive...but claiming that 99% of the girls meet his four points sounds very outrageous at best...

And I certainly don't believe Deepthroat is going to have a disastrous time...I'd wager he will have a marvelous time...

However, you can't truly believe that 99% of the girls can't get an erection and ejaculate...In my experience, only one girl was unable or unwilling to get hard and cum...But you guys would have the young Mr. Deepthroat believe that out of 100 girls he meets in Guess, Obsession and Cascade, only one can get hard and cum...Perhaps I'm wrong...but I truly don't believe they would last very long if they can't...An most watch their hormone intake very carefully just for that reason...

Moreover, I have never been with a Thai ladyboy who believes that she is a girl...Perhaps something has been lost in translation, but they have all made it clear to me that they are not girls but ladyboys...

And as you know TT, I don't normally have one night stands with the girls...The girls I normally go with I've gotten to know...Unlike others here, perhaps jadeite included, I'm not a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am kinda guy...

But in his and your defense, I do agree in part with his first point...But there are many girls who do enjoy having sex...even with farangs...And that's not to suggest that they enjoy working in the P4P bars...

Perhaps I've just been lucky or unlucky...I suppose it depends on whether you're right eyed or left eyed...

[jadeite]

However, you can't truly believe that 99% of the girls can't get an erection and ejaculate

I never said that so please don€™t misquote me like that. I didn€™t even use the word MOST or USUALLY, I said SOME!

An most watch their hormone intake very carefully just for that reason...

Ever notice any skin rashes? Commonly caused by hormone overdose. Hormones work. Some ladyboys think if they take more they will work better. Some famous ones on this board couldn't cum at various points of their career. I remember a time when Chompoo couldn't cum except when she got off the hormones in preparation for implants. There are those who can stay hard until the sun rises but never squeeze out a drop. I am a bit skeptical they optimize quantity for performance. I don€™t think they give a toss about punters opinion. Otherwise they wouldn€™t get SRS either. Sure, finding ones capable of cumming is common, but it is not a given.

Moreover, I have never been with a Thai ladyboy who believes that she is a girl...Perhaps something has been lost in translation, but they have all made it clear to me that they are not girls but ladyboys...

Subtle distinction: a ladyboy is one who believes they are a girl born in the wrong body type. They identify with the inner girl. That's why they go to the women's restroom, wear women's clothes, talk like women, and the works. Some who get SRS truly believe they have completed transformation and are now real girls through and through.

And as you know TT, I don't normally have one night stands with the girls...The girls I normally go with I've gotten to know...Unlike others here

I've done both. Living in Thailand I have lived and breathed ladyboys. Been invited to special occasions with them on their days off, invited to their homes back in the villages, and invited to their funerals; 4 which never made it to age 25. I can speak fluent Thai and I care about them a great deal and keep in touch with some who have moved on from the bars. I'm not mister know it all, but I've been around the block along with a few others here.

[Tomcat]

(jadeite @ Oct. 31 2008,21:39) get SRS truly believe they have completed transformation and are now real girls

I think the venerable Kahuna may have been refering to Pre Ops. Our SRS friends probably do have another mindset.

[sev7en]

Too much to read but i agree with kahunadad as usual. He always makes sense.

[dummy_plug]

Good post jadeite. I agree with the vast majority of what you said as it mirrors most of my experience. When it comes to baht, throw all rules out the window.

I think most guys need to understand that the lives ladyboys live in and out of the bars are vastly different in most cases. One is not a reflection of the other.