Are LB's ok with only "giving" and no return?

[robbo]

good one this,im sure its made a lot of us smile ...........plenty of guys out there who say me no never will go ladyboy....................and then! but then again its not for everyone, so no critisism,mayby if its just a good BJ your after and are real put off by the poss of a cock pokin up, then why not try out some of the great lookin posties avail in BKK,some real stunners.........its another option........ good BJ,s from GG are allways hit n miss found some real good ones but not many.then again why not just go to the BJ bars,went to one i middle of day in patpong..............fuck they were butt ugly! rather have a BJ from a soi dog they were that bad, one in soi 13 pattaya is a good bar,got some cute GG,s in there , well i couldnt resist anyhow.

[deepthroat]

Thanks guys, this is starting to get more to the heart of the issues I was hoping to address. I was afraid everyone would be too tempted by the "he thinks he's straight but just doesn't know his own sexuality" hook to answer the real questions, so thanks for trying to see beyond that "issue" to address my core concern.

I certainly wouldn't want to bet my retirement savings on whether I will or won't ever be willing to reciprocate, but again that wasn't the question I'm interested in. My experience with GG professionals is that rarely if ever does a girl that I procure for a blowjob "insist" that I have sex with her. That is near the heart of the question I was asking - is it bad form to ask LB's for a blowjob only? Will they turn me down, or be offended? And what's the best way to try to inquire about their deepthroat skills and various oral proficiencies before getting to the room? For the most part I've begun to get a few good insights from your answers.

One of the key things I've gleaned from this is that I've not factored in the "horny dude" factor! I will of course be careful, but that's something very good to keep in mind. As for girls that say one thing in the bar and do another - not a problem. I've been mongering for 30 years, and have developed many strategies for dealing with this. Primary one is to be clear up front about the requirements and getting agreement on the terms, and not paying until afterwards. At the slightest sign of disagreement, it's usually my strategy to show them the door. If it starts to get ugly I'll sometimes even pay some or all of the agreed-upon fee just to get them out of my room, as it's usually cheaper than all the drama (and at the rates we're talking, it's relatively easy to chalk it up to a learning experience). I've found that if someone starts to pout or is "put-out" (no pun intended) at being called upon to provide what was previously agreed, it's best to cut your losses. I don't countenance "upsellers" and instead am happy to provide tips above-and-beyond the agreed rate in return for exceptional service. I am aware that the law in LOS is on their side, not on mine, unless I get ripped off (which I'm always extremely careful about) so I don't want to get into a skirmish of any sort. And yes, I only bring the money I need for a single transaction (or two) and leave everything else locked in my safe. I'll probably bring pictures of my passport as well so I can leave the original locked up at all times.

The reason I'd not thought much about posties was sort of alluded to by one of your posts - as with the hormone girls, I question whether they really are the ones that will give me the toe-curling, hair-stiffening blowjob that gives me a hard-on ("euphoric recall") the next day in the shower just remembering it. From all I've read, the ones that most want to deny their appendage seem to be the least interested in sucking cock. So it's a fine line I'm walking: I want to find a beautiful ladyboy with great tits who wants to suck me like... er, um... well, no disrespect intended, but - like a fag. In other words, I want LB's with a true passion for cock but who also are ok with me pretending she doesn't have a cock. Um.... yeah. Might be a tough order to fill. I see what you're saying.

Nonetheless I'm not dissuaded, and am still curious but now perhaps even more cautious. I'd love to hook up with JimSlim and a couple of other BM's that have PM'd me about this and other topics, who are aware of my "limitations" and can hopefully steer me through the shark-infested waters upon my arrival. If you have more insights on how to safeguard myself and keep from offending the lovely LB's whilst attempting to get my jollies, keep the cards and letters coming.

And no, I probably won't stick to the GG's, unless I find that the girls at Lolitta's, Star of Light or My Friend You are able to give that "euphoric recall" bj. If that turns out to be the case then who knows. But I think I'll still have to experiment once or twice with the darkside. At least so I can bet TT a dinner on whether he's right or not! I'm not worried about having to run home and remodel the den I'm more worried about how to deal with a sensitive subject without offending or getting a horny LB pissed-off at me yet still getting my needs met.

Thanks again,

[69billy]

(TTChang @ Oct. 19 2008,11:06) My serious reply is that 'anything goes'.  My friend, you are paying the piper, you call the tune.

[donnnnnny]

deep my man just go to the bar and tell the girl what you want, ie i want you to give me a blow job. she will be happy to do it. As i have always said "he who pays the piper calls the tune" make sure that the girl in question fully understands that all you want is a blow job and away you go.AS for not touv ching it, i garuantee you will reach down and play with it.
cheeers the flash

[deepthroat]

Thanks Donnnnny! You definitely got me chuckling. Ok, I still say I'm willing to take some bets (I'm not a drinker so maybe I should bet dinners or something?) that you and TT are both wrong, but I appreciate your style and your conviction. And you guys have a lot more experience than I so I'd be a fool to say I know what the future holds.

[TTChang]

(deepthroat @ Oct. 20 2008,01:08) At least so I can bet TT a dinner on whether he's right or not!  

  Look forward to ... meeting you for dinner ( and the Trip Report)  

Good to hear you are an experienced GG monger.  You won't have any problem at all with what you want (or at least what you think you want   )

[donnnnnny]

(deepthroat @ Oct. 20 2008,14:53) Thanks Donnnnny! You definitely got me chuckling. Ok, I still say I'm willing to take some bets (I'm not a drinker so maybe I should bet dinners or something?) that you and TT are both wrong, but I appreciate your style and your conviction. And you guys have a lot more experience than I so I'd be a fool to say I know what the future holds.

LOL ok or you know what you will be holding in the future. dinner i bet you touch her cock
the flash

[Lefty]

Deepthroat,
If you want a blow job from a ladyboy with nice tits and cute face, but her cock holds no interest for you, then why not look for a post op? You won't need to be concerned with her expecting the same in return that way or her cock getting in close proximity of any places on you that you don't want it to touch.

[deepthroat]

Thanks Lefty, I addressed this earlier in the thread...

[Lefty]

Sorry, I see it now. I guess if you knew a postop before the srs, and when she did have her cock, she was adept at giving head, then later became a postop, she would probably still have the ability.
Never done that, just trying to think of ideas, but I have only known one lb who stands out as bad at oral, in the fact that she would not do oral, even with a condom, and others had similar experiences with her.

Like a couple of the fellows said though, if you are the one paying, you're the decider, and you both agree to what you want beforehand, everything should be cool with most lbs. Perhaps you could even ask them to just take their tops off so you could see the boobs, but keep their britches on.

[surropan]

If you are only looking for a great BJ and don't actually have a specific attraction to lbs (which I seriously, seriously doubt) go to Star of Light, Patpong 2, or, in the daytime, Akane Fassion Massage, Chit Lom or Phrom Pong for ggs well-trained in the oral arts.

Also you could find a post-op at a gg place that makes her living from guys not knowing she's an lb.  There's a gorgeous one (post-op) at Midnite Bar on Soi Cowboy.  Also several scattered around elsewhere, including Patpong. Though cockless, I doubt they have forgotten how to treat a dick properly. I noticed when taking a buddy to the GG King's Corner that there were several post-ops there.

If I can play armchair shrink for a minute though, may I suggest that some part of you is looking for an lb for other than their reputation in the oral arts?  Some part of you that is curious about their maleness/male parts?  There is nothing wrong with that... lots of guys don't like to jump in head first and slowly develop their love of the almighty schlong as time goes on.  Upon my first attraction to lbs, I wasn't so sure in my attraction to their male parts.  But, as i loosened up, I realized it really was a significant part of the attraction.  I may be completely wrong in your case, OP, but just a thought...

I'm not trying to be rude, as I think that you presented your original post in a respectful way.  If you are really just looking for a great oral experience, try my suggestions above.  Otherwise, ask yourself why you would go so far in your oral pursuits to actually register and post (56 times) on an lb-devoted site.

[deepthroat]

Thank you Dr. Suropan... I appreciate your suggestions. I've not heard the names Akane Fashion Massage, Chit Lom nor Phrom Pong before (and I've posted widely on this and other LOS GG sites with the subject "where to find best bbbj in LOS?". Would you be so kind as to provide additional details? Of course I've heard of SOL but these others are brand new.

I don't want to turn this thread into a treatise on my psychology, or on the psychology of repressed ladyboy lovers who have a Freudian love of cigars or any other such discussion, but to briefly answer your question: the combination I'm looking for is a passionate, deepthroat (if possible) blowjob by a woman with a beautiful face and awesome tits. If that's a GG that's fantastic. If it's a ladyboy, that's fantastic. My only issue is that I'm probably not going to fuck him/her (I'm really just into the bj's) and with GG's I know that's probably not an issue. I'm unfamiliar with the protocol with LB's so I'm trying to gather intel. I'm also probably not going to give an LB a reach-around but I'm willing to recognize that many here on the board have experience just like mine that tells them otherwise so I'll let you all know what happens.

At great risk of adding flame to the fire (I REALLY don't want this thread to become focused on my inner psychology but I recognize it's hard to not go there) I'll add that I've been blown by guys a few times over the years, and some of the best deepthroat bj's I got were from those gay dudes. Didn't make me want to seek them out outside of the peep booths where I got "serviced" as I'm not sexually attracted to men. But watching a porno in a dark booth and getting passionately blown by a mouth and throat that really gets off on sucking you off... what's not to love? I've never felt any desire to provide any return of service or even to acknowledge that it's a dude down there... it's like getting an awesome massage - who cares whether the provider is a man or a woman? It's about the physical experience.

Yup, I've probably COMPLETELY derailed this thread now, but if you can avoid trying to psychoanalyze and can somehow just stick to the topic, more power to you.... I just want a passionate, deepthroat bbbj from a beautiful face with awesome tits (and a nice body). If not that, then just a passionate/deepthroated bj from a face that's not missing both eyes and a nose will do in a pinch.





If you are only looking for a great BJ and don't actually have a specific attraction to lbs (which I seriously, seriously doubt) go to Star of Light, Patpong 2, or, in the daytime, Akane Fassion Massage, Chit Lom or Phrom Pong for ggs well-trained in the oral arts.

Also you could find a post-op at a gg place that makes her living from guys not knowing she's an lb. There's a gorgeous one (post-op) at Midnite Bar on Soi Cowboy. Also several scattered around elsewhere, including Patpong. Though cockless, I doubt they have forgotten how to treat a dick properly. I noticed when taking a buddy to the GG King's Corner that there were several post-ops there.

If I can play armchair shrink for a minute though, may I suggest that some part of you is looking for an lb for other than their reputation in the oral arts? Some part of you that is curious about their maleness/male parts? There is nothing wrong with that... lots of guys don't like to jump in head first and slowly develop their love of the almighty schlong as time goes on. Upon my first attraction to lbs, I wasn't so sure in my attraction to their male parts. But, as i loosened up, I realized it really was a significant part of the attraction. I may be completely wrong in your case, OP, but just a thought...

I'm not trying to be rude, as I think that you presented your original post in a respectful way. If you are really just looking for a great oral experience, try my suggestions above. Otherwise, ask yourself why you would go so far in your oral pursuits to actually register and post (56 times) on an lb-devoted site.

[surropan]

(deepthroat @ Oct. 27 2008,23:40) Thank you Dr. Suropan...   I appreciate your suggestions. I've not heard the names Akane Fashion Massage, Chit Lom nor Phrom Pong before (and I've posted widely on this and other LOS GG sites with the subject "where to find best bbbj in LOS?". Would you be so kind as to provide additional details? Of course I've heard of SOL but these others are brand new.

Akane Fashion Massage is at two locations, Phrom Pong and Chit Lom (they are not three separate places, as you may have understood from my post-- my bad).

Their website is now blocked from Thailand, so I can't find them. Just google the name. It is a Japanese-style massage place. They (usually) do not offer sex, only oral. Usually, the oral IS with condom. That's negotiable though.

My rec is Manami, at Akane Phrom Pong (I think it's Soi 33, 33/1 or 33/2), which is located in a dank, dark parking lot under the 'Peep Inn hotel'. She is widely known as the horniest chick in LOS. Only girl (gg or lb) I have ever bothered to visit twice. She likes to play the rusty trombone, by the way. She is also willing to do bbbj. And BBFS, by the way. Best oral I have personally ever received, gg or lb (and I've been with about 75 pros in LOS).

Sorry, wasn't trying to get 'inside your head' too much, just offering my 2 cents. In retrospect, you just sound like a very physical/tactile person who is not stuck on gender. Others, like me, are more visual. That may make you original in the sense that you don't care who is doing the work, as long as it is dark! Even though some here might be critical of you, please don't feel unwelcome... it takes all types, especially here! Please continue posting... nobody (except for a few assholes) will judge your own, personal sexuality here.

[surropan]

btw here is the akane website www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.html

[deepthroat]

much appreciated Dr. Surropan

That's exactly the sort of recommendation I've been dying to find. I'll definitely seek her out when I get to BKK!

Thanks much for the lead, anyone else got similar to share?

MUCHO GRACIAS