Are LB's ok with only "giving" and no return?

[deepthroat]

It's getting closer to launch but still too far out (Jan 28 I leave USA for BKK!) but I've started to get concerned about my dream of trying out the LB scene.... seems like all the posts (and I've read a TON these past couple of months) are from guys that are true ladyboy lovers. I'm not. I am a GG lover but most importantly, a blowjob lover. Getting head from a beautiful face with great tits who just HAPPENS to have a cock is ok in my book, as long as I don't have to touch it. I hope that doesn't sound offensive, it's not meant to be. Maybe it's a bit of homophobia, I don't know and don't care. But I'm not ok with touching another human's penis. So... is that gonna pose a problem? I'm not completely ruling out porking her, if I'm turned on enough I suppose anything's possible, but I'm relatively certain I won't be offering a reach-around. From what I've been told the girls are ok with this but can someone be a bit more clear? I assume I need to say that up front at the bar (while negotiating). Will it get me turned down by some of the "superstars"? What about girls like Cartoon from Obsession or Bang from Ezy? And am I best to approach the mamasan and explain to her that I'm looking for a girl that likes to deepthroat and is ok only with that, and that won't be mad that I won't touch her penis?

As much info as you can offer would be appreciated. I really don't know this scene and thus have no idea of the politics, what's polite, what's considered rude, etc. Help me out please.

[sev7en]

(deepthroat @ Oct. 19 2008,15:28) Getting head from a beautiful face with great tits who just HAPPENS to have a cock is ok in my book, as long as I don't have to touch it. I hope that doesn't sound offensive, it's not meant to be. Maybe it's a bit of homophobia, I don't know and don't care. But I'm not ok with touching another human's penis. So... is that gonna pose a problem? I'm not completely ruling out porking her, if I'm turned on enough I suppose anything's possible, but I'm relatively certain I won't be offering a reach-around.

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[deepthroat]

uh... yeah. Thanks for all the help.

Hopefully someone can answer this without having to take the piss.

[kahuna]

In my limited experience I would say that it's kinda sorta difficult to negotiate with a horny girl who just happens to also have a raging hard-on ready to explode...
but good luck...

And I'm not entirely certain the the mamasan/papasan is an expert in the sexual proficiency of her/his charges...but good luck again...

I suppose that you'll never know unless you ask...But be very careful...Their damn cocks can go off at the most inopportune times...

PS...If you had posted this is the correct forum...New Members & Old Questions...Perhaps you would get better replies...

[deepthroat]

Stogie, do you agree? (Should this be moved to a different thread?)

I take it from Kahuna's answer that maybe I need to rethink trying a ladyboy, that it's really neither safe NOR sane to expect an LB to be ok with just providing a bj?

[sev7en]

(deepthroat @ Oct. 19 2008,15:57) Stogie, do you agree? (Should this be moved to a different thread?)

I take it from Kahuna's answer that maybe I need to rethink trying a ladyboy, that it's really neither safe NOR sane to expect an LB to be ok with just providing a bj?

Ok, you´re serious. Sorry for my previous reply then.

Sure you can get only a bj froma lb, but they are men like us , horny 24/7 unless they eat hormones, so chances are that they can´t refrain from puliing out their dick , and wants you to pork them or they wanna do you. Lb´s recieving a bj, is imo, the least wanted thing from them.
Go for the really feminine ones that are more or less uncomfortable with their own genitals. Some of them tries to hide it during the sexact.

Don´t take Nadia or Fanta, as they will for sure use their tools on you.

Good luck..

[kahuna]

My reply wasn't intended to be flip nor am I suggesting you forget about your dream to be with a ladyboy...
But here's a bit more for you to consider...

The sweet little things all pumped up on hormones might not care if they ever get hard and cum...
And chances are, they also don't like to give and are not very good at giving head...And I know this will come as a shock...
but for some of these girls, sex with us is not very high on their list of things to do...

Generally the girls who give good head are the more experienced girls who will also want and expect
to cum as well...And when they get sexually excited they are just exactly like you...they only think with their cock...

My point being...what you negotiate and discuss in the bar...might not be what happens in the bedroom...

[TTChang]

Ok, i'm sure someone may move this thread.  but in the meantime, I will give deep throat a serious reply - to what i think is a fair question.

I have been a GG fan for most of my life - say 94% (from age 10), but then discovered LBs.  I thought I would 'dabble' just once or twice on one of my LOS trips ....  then return to UK, and say to myself 'back from the dark side, but at least I had the balls to try it'.  Maybe I used to think what you did.  But i got hooked (as I'm fairly certain you will).  

My serious reply is that 'anything goes'.  My friend, you are paying the piper, you call the tune. If you pay 'the going rate' for multiple two-way fucks etc, then no LB I know is going to turn you down for ... just holding hands .... going out for dinner  ... or 'just' a blow job.   And she will probably phone you for repeat business.

Some of my close LB friends are delighted not to come on their 3rd barfine of the night.  But as Kahuna says, on the first one, you might get something more offered ....  

and (as TTChang discovered) you might enjoy  

[PigDogg]

(TTChang @ Oct. 19 2008,02:06) If you pay 'the going rate' for multiple two-way fucks etc, then no LB I know is going to turn you down for ... just holding hands .... going out for dinner  ... or 'just' a blow job.   And she will probably phone you for repeat business.

You can also go for the girly girl ladyboys loaded up on hormones who sometimes can't get it up.

You might also enjoy Lolita's on Soi LK Metro. It's a place that specializes in blowjobs but no ladyboys are on staff.

[Road Runner]

Hello Deepthroat,

As has been pointed out by those above many of these girls are fairly highly sexed - remember they are in their late teens and early twenties.
So if the subject of sex comes up they are mostly going to want to go all the way - unless as TTC said you're their third customer of the night.

But! as has also been pointed out - you're the one paying and so in LOS it's;- 'Up to you'
(Which translates pretty much as - 'you are the one with the money [postion/power], I would not presume to tell you what to do')

If you realy do find when you get to the room that all you want is a blow job then nearly all of the girls wil do just that and leave without any problems.

Though you will probably find like TTC that it doesn't quite work that way......

RR.

[kahuna]

I  know every one of these BMs who have posted here...we all know each other...We drink in the bars together and visit the bars together and wine and dine the girls together...But I disagree, at least in part, with what they are telling you...

The girl and the mamasan will tell you anything they think you want to hear to get you to pay the barfine...That's the game and that's their job...and that does not necessarily translate into a great session when you get back to your hotel room...or a guarantee that what was promised in the bar is what will be delivered...It's a crap shoot...It's not like buying a TV...there is no guarantee or return policy...

And that is why I am suggesting that for your first few experiences that you choose a professional experienced  girl who has been around a while...The other night I was with a fellow BM in Cascades who fell in love with the most passable young girl I have ever seen...brand new...no experience...She would fool most experienced BMs here...When I met him again a couple of nights later and asked him how it went...he told me it was horrible...When she got to the room she wouldn't do anything she said that she would while in the bar...He sent her packing...It happens often...You know the joke...How do you know when a ladyboy is lying...Her lips are moving...I know that is cynical but there is some truth in it...

In some ways it's unfair for us to answer your question...All the guys who have previously posted either live here or stay here for extended periods...We look at the scene and the girls much differently and have much different experiences than someone who comes in for a 2 or 3 week trip once or twice a year...We often go with the same girls many times...sometimes with the same girl for months...and the experience changes with the girls every night...

And as TTC points out, who knows what might happen when you get back to your hotel room...You came to this site for a reason...You are lusting after these girls for a reason...And that doesn't mean that your gonna rush back to Seattle and start wearing pink shirts and having urges to redecorate your home and those of your friends and neighbors...You are not gonna automatically turn into a ladyboy worshipping dicksucker like me just because you have had a beautiful sexual experience with a beautiful Thai ladyboy...

So stop being so apprehensive...Stop worrying about accidentally or purposefully touching or being touched  by their cock...When you see these beautiful creatures up close and personal...and see what that cock is attached to...I can almost guarantee that all your fears will fade...

And now it's 7:15 pm in LOS...and I'm gonna go and find me a delicious ladyboy cock...

[Stogie]

Given your serious issues with 'the penis' I'd stick with GGs.

The blow jobs will be crap but you won't get into a fight.

[Road Runner]

I'm just ironing my pink shirt wearing my bunnie-wunnie slippers.          

RR.

[jimslim]

(Stogie @ Oct. 19 2008,19:37) Given your serious issues with 'the penis' I'd stick with GGs.

He'll be sucking it like a champion after his second experience

TT Changs advice is pretty spot on , but don't deny the girl a bit of fun also , but never worry you will soon reach round out of curiosity and then it is too late you are already on the slippery slope

Deepthroat , PM me nearer the time I should be in BKK around then

[thegame925]

When you reach Bangkok, on your first evening out, take a blue Valium instead of a blue Viagra then
just go relax and go with the flow.