'Barebacking' LB...

[petesie]

I think the general message is fairly clear here, cover up and take precautions to be careful, a few of us have barebacked through a variety of reasons, alcahol, bravado, stupidity and pressure from the other party but lessons learned and later the fright and the guilt do the job and we don't do it again.......

[Rebel_ins]

i've been offered bb plenty of times, BUT I've also been refused bb because the LB figured I was African before! The funny thing is, once she heard me speak more while in the act she wanted me to go bb and asked if i was american.

[D33]

As a reality check...

I've tested plenty of ladyboys (and girls) for HIV while shooting bareback production. Of the ones who tested positive for HIV (and there were plenty), EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is still working today.

A few of them have even told me they allow guys to fuck them without a condom because they are already sick and if the guy wants to get sick too, "up to him" they say.

Based on what I know through my own testing of so many LBs and girls, I would not for a second slip my raw cock inside one of these LBs, no matter how hot I was for them.

The good news is, as a top your chances are GREATLY reduced from catching the virus. As a bottom you can pretty much count on catching HIV if you are getting barebacked.

[kathylc]

I just read something about a German who has undergone treatment for Leukemia in Berlin (IIRC) When he was originally diagmosed with Leuk. he also stated he was on drugs for HIV/AIDs. Now after the treatment for Leuk its been found that he is free of whatever it is that shows up if your HIV +. No other HIV treatment drugs etc were given during the course of his cancer treatment either. They just may have stumbled on something

[D33]

Don't forget about Hepatitis B and C guys. These will kill you too.

[Lefty]

Even Hep A can kill you if not treated. The thing is with Heps A & B there is no excuse since vaccines are readily available.

[LB_better_than_GG]

I love ladyboys been this way for over 6 years, but i wouldnt bareback anyone except my future wife. Playing with your life is no joke.

my 2 cents

[Guest]

To my mind, barebacking with an LB is simply an insane proposition. Of course, if the lady is willing (and many seem to be) then it is your choice (and your life) but the statistics of HIV infection among that section of Thai population are certainly shocking.

Even wearing a rubber carries a small inherent risk so caveat emptor will always apply, whether you are a top or not.

I'm sure most of us have been in a situation when the desire to dispense with precautionary measures can be overwhelming but you really are taking your life in your hands.

The PCR test can detect HIV viral DNA 4-11 days after infection but the complexity of the testing process does demand a finely calibrated machine and highly qualified staff (and is more suited to children who are born to HIV+ mothers than those who contract it by sexual means). As a test it is more like to give a false positive due to the sensitivity of the examination (which can be infuenced by the presence of other viral matter in the given blood sample) but should always be followed up by an antibody test after the 3 month incubation period. False negatives are a possibility with the antibody test but these are extremely rare.

Speaking as someone involved on a documentary on the testing of HIV, seeing what goes on in the lab and then then the news given to waiting patients was truly terrifying.

So take care and have fun: covering up will ensure that you get to play with an LB (or two) a day for as long as you want

[Tomcat]

A pill will be out next year after clinical trials which has a 70% effective rate against getting HIV. Its expensive but no doubt in three years time it will probably be 100% effective and cost a few bucks....Just pop the pill/s on Friday night for the weekend..

Around 4,000 people in LOS are involved with the trials which so far have seen a 70% reduction. The trials are double blind as well.

If anyone is interested ill dig the article out and post the update which was in New Scientist this week i think..Ok so its nots a 100% but at least its some good news..

[rxpharm]

Yes TC, please post the update, thanks!

[Tomcat]

http://www.newscientist.com/article....ll.html

This is a pracy of the actual article but its to the point.
The actual article is around 4 pages ( maybe the whole article is online )

[katoeylover]

There was also the case of the German Guy who had stem cell transplant to cure leukemia. The new cells not only cured the cancer, also got rid of his HIV, so there is hope out there.

Full story here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7726118.stm

Doctors in Germany say a patient appears to have been cured of HIV by a bone marrow transplant from a donor who had a genetic resistance to the virus.

The researchers in Berlin said the man, who suffered from leukaemia and HIV, had shown no sign of either disease since the transplant two years ago.

But they stressed it was an unusual case which needed further investigation.

Experts said the result may boost interest in gene therapy for HIV.

Berlin's Charite clinic said the 42-year-old patient was an American living in Berlin, but the man has not been identified.

Genetic mutation

He had been infected with the human immunodeficiency virus, that causes Aids, for more than a decade and also had leukaemia.

The clinic said since the transplant was carried out 20 months ago, tests on the patient's bone marrow, blood and other organ tissues have all been clear.



To promise to millions of people infected with HIV that there is hope of a cure would not be right

Professor Rodolf Tauber, Berlin's Charite clinic

In a statement, Professor Rodolf Tauber from the Charite clinic said: "This is an interesting case for research.

"But to promise to millions of people infected with HIV that there is hope of a cure would not be right."

Roughly one in 1,000 Europeans and Americans have an inherited genetic mutation, which prevents HIV from attaching itself to cells.

Two million people die of Aids every year and HIV is estimated to have infected 33 million people worldwide.

Option 'for a few'

Professor Andrew Sewell, from the Department of Medical Biochemistry and Immunology at the University of Cardiff said in theory a bone marrow transplant such as this one "should work" and it was surprising that no one had tried it before.


Most people with HIV live in sub-Saharan Africa and this is hugely expensive
Professor Andrew Sewell, University of Cardiff

"The problem is most people with HIV live in sub-Saharan Africa and this is hugely expensive, you have to find a matched donor, and it's a pretty severe and painful operation.

"So it's going to be an option for very few people."

He added that gene therapy to knock out the mutation of the key CCR5 receptor was a possibility for future treatment.

Professor Philip Goulder, an immunologist at the University of Oxford said: "It's a really interesting case which looks at a treatment which really hasn't been thought about before.

"But without having that much information about the specific case you would want to be very cautious about getting too excited and you wouldn't be able to replicate that treatment for a lot of people with HIV."

Paul Ward, deputy chief executive at the Terrence Higgins Trust said: "This case gives us something to explore in future studies but it's certainly not a quick fix as gene therapy is complex and expensive.

"With no cure in sight, prevention should be our number one priority."

[dummy_plug]

Great! Hopefully we'll find a cure soon so we can get rid of these blasted rain coats and fuck the way nature intended!

[bigmick22]

a form of cancer and HIV at the same time - I know someone who could use a cure like that

[sev7en]

(bigmick22 @ Nov. 25 2008,01:41) a form of cancer and HIV at the same time - I know someone who could use a cure like that

he beat terminal cancer only to catch hiv...poor guy.