Transgendered lady needs your help...

[Guest]

Hi! I'm a transgendered person and I'm thinking of visiting the LOS en femme. I'm not as gorgeous as the ladyboys in LOS but anyhow....I am comfortable with myself and wanna experience more.......

Hey, can any of you guys tell me
1) any nice t-girl safe hotels to recommend in BKK, 4 stars preferred
2) what can a girl like me do in BKK
3) where to meet some friendly guys
4) where to meet other transgendered non working girls for friendship only.... tgirl groups or parties....

Not really into sex, just want to explore the life and experience more

[qwerty]

Im no expert... but i'll try to answer...

Hey, can any of you guys tell me
1) any nice t-girl safe hotels to recommend in BKK, 4 stars preferred
I don't believe there any specific t-girl oriented hotels, though my guess would be to contact one of the hospitals that does reassignment surgery and see where they house thier clients, also check some gay travel guides for listings of tolerant places.
2) what can a girl like me do in BKK
pretty much what you like i guess, but in honesty, while BKK is relatively trans friendly, compared to western nations, that doesnt mean you will be spared the curiousity, stares, and whispers of people, hell, even non- transgenedered people get that here sometimes...! thai's are lovely people generally but they can make some people feel self-conscious by thier frequent gossiping!
3) where to meet some friendly guys
you're probably best off in the gay areas i'm assuming. it'd be the most tolerant area, and more likely for you to have a chat or meet a friend. i think silom soi 2 is the main area.
4) where to meet other transgendered non working girls for friendship only.... tgirl groups or parties....
perhaps throu the reassignment clinics, there may be some visiting girls... not all thai transgendered are working girls, but a majority seem to be. its hard to meet the non working girls.

Not really into sex, just want to explore the life and experience more [B]

[TTChang]

Call for Naang Faa    - I'm sure NF can help you with some of this.

[Naang Faa]

Qwerty's advice is good

Personally i don't know any hotels (i have an apartment there)..
You can do just about anything you like without problems...they have seen it all..
Friendly guys,again Qwerty's advice on the gay areas of silom is sound..
The problem with the non working girls is the can be hard to spot and if they
work mainstream jobs they don't have too much free time..saying that,i'm sure
you will find someone somewhere..they are nice friendly people and always keen
to help other TG's if they can..
Have a nice holiday...
x

[kahuna]

(qwerty @ Jun. 12 2008,10:55) not all thai transgendered are working girls, but a majority seem to be. its hard to meet the non working girls.

My opinion, that's just not true...the majority...the vast majority...of Thai LB's are non P4P...and they work all over BKK and can be found all over Thailand...A quick trip to MBK and you'll see them working in shops on all 7 floors...And you can find them working in the major department stores and places like Watsons and Boots...And you'll also see them in most of the clubs and discos in the evenings with their friends...In short, they are all over Thailand...

And while they are not readily accessible to most BM's on this and like boards, they will likely be a bit more open to you...In fact, some might be very curious about you and want to chat...and I'll wager NF has had similar experiences...

Unfortunately, there will be clubs and bars and hotels, where you will not be welcome...and they are within their rights here to bar your entry...This isn't Europe or North America...Generally however, Thais are very tolerant folks and transgenders are widely accepted here...

Just check the travel forum here and the hotel threads and I'm sure you'll find a hotel where you will be welcome...

Finally, please don't be shy of the P4P girls...In truth they are not much different than the girls who work regular day jobs...They are all just working to make a baht...

In any event,  just my opinions and others will disagree..

Enjoy...

[Road Runner]

Hello Wombatos,

Welcome to the forum.    

To answer your questions.

1.  You should have no problem with most of the tourist hotels  -  you name it they've probably seen it anyway!  
Most people on the forum stay at hotels in and around Sukumwit Road as it is near to Nana.
If you are doing the tourist bit that would be a good choice or alternately find one at or near Silom.
I'd suggest doing a search for those in your price range and then posting back here to ask for comments.
Here is one good place to start looking Asiarooms.com but there are plenty of others.

2.  As Qwerty says you should have no problems with the Thai's though they will stare and talk about you.
Thai children don't get taught that it's rude to stare at people.    
Most of the tourist things to do and see are in and around the old part of the city old city map.
Here is a website giving information about things to see Bangkok attractions
Also there are plenty of shops with the greatest collection around Siam Square and Ploenchit Road.

3 & 4  We're all friendly here!  
One place I would suggest is Khaosan Road which despite it's low-brow reputation would be a good place to meet up with people
 -  both guys and other t-girls.  It's also a good place for nightlife.

RR.

[surropan]

I wouldn't worry too much about not being accepted here... as others mentioned above, you might get staring looks, but not necessarily because you are transgendered... I get stares and comments all the time because I have a long beard!

I think that you will find that you stand out much less here than in the West. Especially because you are of Asian appearance... probably most people will assume you are just another Thai transgendered woman, like the ones we see everyday.

You can really meet people anywhere in BKK, and I wouldn't restrict myself to the gay area. As someone mentioned above, even though Khao San has a reputation of being the home of smelly backpackers, it is a great place to meet new friends. There is an almost instant camraderie there because everybody seems to be very tolerant and interested in meeting people from all walks of life. Try Gecko Bar on Soi Rambuttri, just past the curving part, which is the friendliest bar I know of here in town. I go there often and always end up having fun getting to know people from all over the world. I doubt that almost anyone there would have trouble being friendly with you just because you are transgendered.

Oh, also, the great-grand-momma of farang (foreign) transgenders in Bangkok is an older American woman by the name of Karen who can be found almost any night in Molly Malone's or O'Reilly's in (the non-gay section) of Silom. She is extremely friendly and would be more than happy to help out a fellow tg. And by the way I see her almost every week and nobody has ever been nasty to her about being a TG in my presence.

And as to your question about meeting 'guys', I assume you meant meeting guys with whom there may be some sort of romantic interest... in that case the advice to hang out in the gay areas is sound. Alternately, I am sure that there are many men on this forum that would love to meet you. And who would behave as perfect gentlemen/friends... we're not all sex-crazed maniacs! I, for one, would be happy to make friends with a nice, attractive tg like you even if a sexual relationship was completely out of the question.

So come to BKK, I think you'll love it!

[Torurot]

Wombatos, I'm sure I've seen your picture on here before, maybe a few years back?

[Guest]

hi Wombatos
just a thought how about chatting with the
tg girls on some of the dating sites eg thailovelinks.com -im sure if you state your just for friends some will help, maybe they can help out with the meeting non - p4p girls, anyway welcome here -

[surropan]

Good idea, Samsim
She could also try face-pic.com, where a lot of lbs are just looking to meet friends and are also very nice. I've met several lbs over that site, and many of them are normal, non-P4P girls that would probably love to help out a foreign transgendered person.

[Guest]

Thanks for all the replies.
Yes, I might have met some of you guys before. I was in BKK in 05, 06 and 07. I mostly spent my time in shopping arcade and the like, as I can't stand the heat. I spent around 2 weeks each time. However, as I hardly speak any Thai, I did not make any friends. I really wish to know some English speakers friends in BKK next time I visit. Perhaps, people interested in friendship with a transgendered woman (as opposed to a LB). I also like "admirers" but the really assertive ones do scare me off a lot. Anyway, I hope I can get more responses and hints on how to have a socially enjoyable trip next month to BKK.

BTW, TG woman like me are not reared as girls from a young age. We act feminine but we are not physically as flawlessly feminine as the LBs.

[PanzerPorn]

(wombatos @ Jun. 12 2008,10:02) where to meet other transgendered non working girls for friendship only.... tgirl groups or parties....

non working girls?
Just wait until they have finished with their short times.
Having a part time job is soo common in bkk these days.

[rxpharm]

Here is an older post that may have some useful information for you: How safe is it to walk around Bangkok crossdressed?

I am pretty sure you won't have any problems in Thailand, and as many have said, the hotels won't really care as long as they get paid and you aren't trying to sneak in extra guests without following hotel policy.

[69billy]

Hi..wombatos.
Forget about BKK..Just come to Pattaya..I'll show you around..

[Guest]

I've actually posted here before asking similar questions before my trip in 06 and 07. I went over to look at the options for my surgery. In the end, I did not visit any of the friends I made in this forum. I just walked around, did some shopping and sat and watched people alone. I am entirely interested in men so going to LB bars is uncomfortable for me. I'm a shy girl so some of the rowdy places are not for me too. I just wonder if there are some places like coffee shops or quieter bars where I can meet people? Please be more specific.