'jumping from girl to girl'

[liisawinkler]

Why is this so common in the transsexual world? Unfaithful men?
This transcends all cultures...Brazilian, Thai, American LB world...this is what happens...the jumping from girl to girl...

[stogie bear]

One good reason is that most men don't get the luxury of spending time with transexuals when they go through puberty and through their younger years...

Imagine going to prison from the ages of 12 to 40 with a few old copies of Playboy magazine and then being released into the world as a teacher at a Catholic girls school! You can imagine what happens next!

A lot of us guys are making up for lost times and lost opportunities that we never had when we were young.

Also, for most of us (me included) the sex with regular girls was never that special and I didn't understand why! OK, there were some exceptions, but for the most part sex with girls for me is quite dull.

So now you meet ladyboys and all of a sudden you have a hard on that should be registered as a lethal weapon and a load of new ladyboys that actually like sex as much as you do and they are all more beautiful than the fat white tarts you had to get drunk to fuck in the past!

For most guys it is a phase. After a few years we just turn into regular Joes again!

[Guest]

all good points, stogie, and your line about meeting people who 'like sex as much as we do' was well-made. sorry to say this Salma, because it sounds really shallow and chauvanistic [no one ever said I wasn't both!], but for me the main reason I butterfly is because once the 'conquest' is made I feel like my mission is accomplished and it's time to start another one LOL. strange but true......once I have slept with a girl I like, I lose interest in her for some reason, and after all the girls I have met in this job I have only found a handful that I can actually spend time with and enjoy their company.

can't speak for why other guys are so unfaithful, but that is my reasoning.

Jon

[Mai-Kee]

Same same here! Both statements, Stogie's ( but for the most part sex with girls for me is quite dull.So now you meet ladyboys and all of a sudden you have a hard on that should be registered as a lethal weapon) and Jon's (once I have slept with a girl I like, I lose interest in her for some reason) count for me as well. Of course there are always exceptions, but that's more or less the rule. But I'm still looking for the most exceptional one and the one I that makes me stay - I unfortunately wasn't lucky so far!

MK

[Guest]

me either MK..... as me and Snick talk about frequently, we have found pieces of the puzzle but never the whole puzzle! I s'pose that if I could find the right one who fit all my criteria and who didn't want to do something silly like cut off a very valuable appendage someday, I could maybe make a go at it. so far there have only been bits and pieces of what I am seeking and those are the 'handful' that I have hung with.

but hey, I am no prize either!

Jon

[stogie bear]

I s'pose that if I could find the right one who fit all my criteria and  who didn't want to do something  silly like cut off a very valuable appendage someday, I could maybe make a go at it.

Well, don't sound TOO enthuiastic, will ya!  

It's a matter of luck for the most part, but you have to make luck happen! If an effort is made then the chances are you'll have more luck!

I seriously got off my arse and made it my mission in life to find someone like Kui about 3 years ago... In that time I got to know about (over) 20 Asian ladyboys from as far away as London, Texas, Vietnam and even one cute ladyboy from Mongolia... then goes the months of vetting and relating... some fall by the wayside and some are persistant nutters! Some are beautiful on the outside and some are nice people!

I eventually got it down to 3, and Kui was the sanest so I tried to start a relationship with her by dumping everything I knew of my life in America and Mexico and sacrificing my family my house and all my computers and other property because this was what I wanted...

Are any of you prepared to do all that? Or do you suppose that you'll 'maybe make a go of it' if someone shows up on your doorstep looking lonely and lost!

It takes effort and sacrifice. Frankly I have been in touch with many blokes via email who DO NOT want to make any sacrifices but want me to find them some college student they can maybe 'get a shot' with!

[Guest]

because new sex is the most exciting and least amt of work

infatuation and lust are powerful drugs that wear off quickly if effort is not put into a relationship

the addict always needs a new fix because he lives for the high

not to mention the primal instict of the male to procreate
ie: spread his seed as much as he can

[Guest]

Well, this is an excellent question and an extremely difficult one to answer as there is no definitive data that either gay men or men who sleep with ladyboys are more promiscious than heterosexuals. The problem is that "gays" are stereotyped as being promiscious however not ALL "gays" are ! It just so happens that it is the most liberal and most vocal gays who are promiscious and because they are more vocal and exhibit this behaviour society then labels all gays as promiscious !

However there are sound sociological, biological and evolutionary traits that may point to some guys being promiscious. Firstly, it is well known that males tend to be more promiscious than females period. Hyper-masculine males(possible definition of what we are) may have experience a high level of androgen while in the womb and this might explain why "gay" men are more promiscious than heterosexual males who in turn are more promiscious than women. Men generally tend to favor short term relationships than women. Gay men tend to be attracted to the young and attractive and favor short-term relationships as it maybe that gay relationships are easier to break than heterosexual ones (eg divorce/children consequences - gay partnerships are not covered or recognised in law and does not result in children)

Now you guys have said before on countless occasions, but I AM NOT GAY. I am not attracted to MEN PERIOD. This is true as it is for me but human sexual attraction is NOT an exact science yet and is extremely complex. However theories are that so called heterosexual men can engage in homosexual or transexual relationships because they are attracted to femimine traits rather than along sex or gender lines. Therefore human sexual attraction might be based on masculinility/femiminity traits rather than gender/sex lines.

So back to promiscuity. There are two lines of thought, social and biological.

Many of our ethics and morals stem from our biological need to procreate and survive as a species amoung other competing species on planet earth. The union of a heterosexual male and female may result in the production of a child that depends on both parents for its survival and nurturing. Heterosexual men therefore face a selection pressure to stay "faithful" to there girl and therefore prevents promiscuity as being socially promiscuious can lead to a heterosexual male limiting his pool of potential sexual partners.

Gay men do not have this selection pressure applied.

It's not the whole story as human behaviour is soo complex.

Right people back in class on Monday for your exams !!!! I expect you all to pass !

Bricktop

[Guest]

Certainly some interesting and salient points raised here and an excellent question, Salma. I agree with many of the posts - in that this is a relatively new thing for many of us and often it is far more exciting and passionate with a ladyboy. That being said; are many of us (men) shallow and misogynistic (regardless of who we are chasing)? Well I had better not speak for an entire gender, but I certainly agree with Jon in saying that I CAN be. However, once I find someone that I truly care for and can relate to I can be very loyal, caring, and faithful. The difficulty is finding that special person, accepting that you can live with the stigma of others knowing you prefer ladyboys, and trying to do this/maintain this while in a long-distance relationship. most of the men here cannot move to Thailand easily and it certainly isn't easy to try and get a ladyboy out of Thailand and inop most of our countries. I have found that I have been in two monogamous, short-term relationships in my last three trips to Thailand. I love experimenting and trying new things (including new relationships), but ultimately I would settle down with a ladyboy long-term if we were compatible on all levels.

Tony

[stogie bear]

Wow! I don't usually think so much when I log on to the forum! I'm getting a headache and I need a lie down for a while!

I love experimenting and trying new things (including new relationships), but ultimately I would settle down with a ladyboy long-term if we were compatible on all levels.

Yikes! Rather you than me! The relationships where I have had compatible partners are the dullest shortest ones I have had!

I'd say that Kui and I were about as incompatible as two people can get, but we share our love, intelligence and sex drives equally! LSI!

[Guest]

Promiscuity to a woman is just natural behaviour to a guy.....it just depends whose values you use.


One of the reasons I move from girl to girl is that I like the novelty of new sex partners....eg the unkown ...addictive new experiences. and secondly I dont want to get into too close a relationship with any one gal...who then gets possessive and starts expecting "things"

The fantasy of finding that special girl is to me a bit of an illusion......I dont think Ill ever stop wanting variety....and I doubt Id find a gal who would put up with that on a long term basis....

The "darwinian factor" in me compells me to spread my DNA far and wide and often.....I cant help my self

God made me that way

[liisawinkler]

interesting answers guys...personally I think Bricktop is right about that point where heterosexual relationships are more ladened down with responsibilities due to the consequences of many heterosexual sexual encounters...pregnancy, emotional and social factors. BUt with the world of ladyboys, we all know that there is never a chance of impregnating them and we know that you will never have to worry because taking into consideration all factors, ladyboys are still men and men are promiscuous!!!

my main contention is here is that...times are changing...some ladyboys who were confined to prostitution as the only available profession to them now have many options to turn to..they can go to the university to study, some Lbs are now more intelligent and smart...some of them are now capable of looking at their interaction with men as a possible serious 'long-term' commitment...some now understand their emotions that a partner may be someone who they can go with for the rest of their life....
what do you think guys?

[Mai-Kee]

"..., ladyboys are still men and men are promiscuous!!!"

You heard now quite a bit about us here. How about you Salma?
Please open your book...

MK

[liisawinkler]

I take the Fifth Amendment.....

[Lotusman]

Liisa,

Great question/topic. Never thought about it before. I think there are thruths from all of the posts. From we are not exposed to many TS throughout our early years, to feeling that there is nothing to lock me into the relationship except me (and love)...not kids, marriage, etc.

But may of us do take the Butterfly approach, and the girls are the first to lable us as such......

Keeps me thinking....Lotusman