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After learning to speak fluent Thai and visiting Thailand 5 times a year for 4 years, I was starting to think that Thai people were professional liars.....then I went to the Philippines and realized Thais are just amateurs.
(stogie bear @ Jan. 21 2008,20:15) Everyone tells lies and there are different lies for different occasions.
The question should really be "Why am I upset when a ladyboy lies to me!"
I lie to them all the time. I don't think I have ever given my real name! Mainly because just once I'd like a ladyboy to ask me something new...
We often comment and complain that Thais lie so much, but I don't know if it is that much more than anyone else. And just how much damage do the lies cause anyway?
i know a lot of people that never lie. my mother is one of them. as for asian ladyboys and lying!!! it's just the way asia is. they tell you what they thing you want to hear, not what the truth is.
Kipling once said"east is east and west is west and nair the twain shall meet"
how very true
donnnnnny
(donnnnnny @ Jan. 22 2008,11:29) it's just the way asia is. they tell you what they thing you want to hear, not what the truth is.
OK, while I still wouldnt support that lying is prevalent in Asia, you do have a certain point here.
Its not lying. Its what Asian culture is about - harmonious people with a deep respect for natural flow of things. Asians do not like confrontations (even if it were the necessary truth) and would exhaust all means to avoid it. Im sure theres many instances this cultural trait is misunderstood as deliberate deceit. Then everything seems fine until theyre cornered and better sense gets them, thus the drastic (and undesirable, yes) truth at the end.
True enough brocklanders, this cultural trait is in the Philippines also. Pair that with a strong sense of colonial mentality, you have a bunch of people "in awe" with anything foreign and wouldnt want to get into the way of upsetting them.
But then again, you might be talking of another type of lying, haha!
S
Anything spent less than mad love is a waste of time
call it what you like statuesque. some call it face others lies etc etc.
YOu say that asians will avoid confrontation at all costs?? shit i must be in a different asia then, as i see thais and philipino's fighting all the time. shit just recently there was a huge stoush between kristie from cebu and the other ladyboy who posts here??? forget name.???
personally i prefer the truth over lies, and always have .
if someone lies to me i can see right through it in seconds, and no one is ever going to tell me that lying is ok. we all know it is not and if you do tell lies you will feel bad about it
there you have it. east is east west is west
(dummy_plug @ Jan. 22 2008,06:54) I'm guessing your exposure to LBs is mainly sex workers. Generally speaking, you're not dealing with the best society has to offer.
I think its the slice of society you're dealing with and lying is just their nature. Its a means for them to get what they want, simple as that.
Lying is just part of the game to get (and keep ) your custom , how may LBs would you barfine if they told you the real truth to all our searching questions ......
Probably the two most common lies in the bar game ....
I dont have Thai boyfriend / I dont like Thai man .
This is told almost universally because they understand that number one some guys have a problem with this , ie - it would be a huge blow to their ego to know that your "girlfriend " really prefares a camp Thai man with a bouffant hairstyle who is a bit of a layabout and likes to spend her hard earned cash .
I dont do drugs / I never do
Again they learn that most westerners are not to keen on this whole business , and are pretty frightened to be involved with someone who is , so again they,re not gonna say , yeh I had a great night last night playing cards and smoking ya ba , its fun , my friends do it .
You could go on and on ......
Im so horny , I not cum for three days
Well actually I was just spitroasted an hour ago by two German fellows three times my age , both with rather fetching handlebar moustaches .
Maybe in situations like this the lies are better than the truth .
And I certainly dont think its LBs that hold the monopoly on lying .....
I fact LBs have very little to gain by lying compared to GGs , everyone has heard countless stories of guys falling for bargirls and getting cleaned out big style - marriage /visas/ money , the lot .
I suppose Ive rambled on a bit what Im trying to say is sometimes little lies dont really matter , and Im sure a few of us do it too , and if you learn to go with the flow , not take it all to serious , its all part of the fun and all part of the game .
I mean come on , when you are gettin down and dirty with your cutie , you dont wanna be thinkin of the layabout with the bouffant and his lazy hands all over her do you ?
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