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Just trying to stir up a little controversy here, and also make my thoughts known on how I feel that we as westerners are percieved by the majority of Thai ladyboys. Of course everything is my theory and thinking only, you all surely have your own thoughts on this subject, especially if you have travelled to Thailand more than a few times.
OK, first off please understand one thing; all western guys between the ages of about 38 and 68...... it is extremely rare if not impossible for a young Thai teenage ladyboy to have genuine feelings of love and romance for you. Sorry to break the news to you but it's true; they may hang around with us [yes, of course I am imcluding myself in all this because I am in that age group and not foolish enough to think these rules don't apply to me] for money or other various reasons, but for love or because they actually "like" us? Uh-uh...... if a ladyboy is still below 20 years old she is interested in other young Thai people, preferably a handsome and muscular Thai boy, and the majority of their free time is spent doing just that. Check the crowd of young ladyboys in Bali Seafood every night after 1am to see what I am saying here; you think the 30 or 40 Nana Plaza ladyboys who hang there every night are there for the seafood?
Now, as a Thai ladyboy gets into her 20's, I find that a lot of them by this time have been burned more than once by the Thai boys that they so adored just a few years earlier. Or they find them to be lazy drunks who never get off their asses and depend on the ladyboy to bring home the bacon. So by 21, 22 and 23 they may be more interested in falangs than their teenaged sisters, but in reality it's all still just superficial; deep down they still harbor feelings for at least one and maybe several Thai men and they also go out on their free time generally to places where Thai men can be found as well as falangs; they will keep their options open of course but generally they would prefer a responsible Thai man with a good job and who accepts them as a ladyboy than to be with a falang. Again, guys who are above 35 years old, don't take it personally but I still believe that this age group spends time with us western guys for many reasons but for love? very doubtful......... they may "like" us, they may enjoy spending time with us, and they certainly like the money we spend on them, but when it comes right down to it they are with us because they have to be and not because they want to be.
Every single person who reads this board [and been to Thailand] has had this happen to them; ladyboy "girlfriend" or at least what you considered your GF or someone you liked very much at the least gets a phone call or breaks a date and gives some lame excuse. You KNOW she is lying, she knows it, and yet she still tells you she is going to the hospital to see her brother or meeting a friend because she needs to "talk", but in reality they are moving on to a customer with more money or to a Thai guy they like more than us. If you can't admit that, you're probably living in a fantsay world; again, try and remember the key point here; these girls are generally spending time with us falangs because they have to, and if a better offer comes along we are dust; I accepted this long ago and you all should as well.
Around the mid to late 20's ages is where you have the best chance at finding true love and romance with a ladyboy, but being the superficial, self-absorbed and selfish sex-obsessed westerners that we are {lol}, we always want girls who are fresh and young and tight; we see these older girls getting up there in the years and it takes longer to put on the make-up and maybe we see some belly roll or some shit and we go sprinting right down to Obsessions to see what new tight-body just rolled off the bus from Nakhon Whocares, and then the cycle above starts all over again.
However, if you can hang in there and don't mind dating a girl in her mid to late 20's you will probably end up getting someone who is very smart and streetwise, worldly perhaps, been to some foreign countries and can actually carry on a conversation unlike a teenager. BUT, you also get the baggage; perhaps years of working in a bar, 20 years of gender dysfunction messing with their heads, discrimination, maybe self-loathing, etc..... this last one would be especially true for post-ops. And do we really want to deal with all that shit? Again, we typical males head right down to the nearest go-go bar and get a younger and tighter kid and fool ourselves into thinking she really likes us, and get back into the cycle; it never really ends. And I truly believe that even these older girls would rather have a person of their own race, culture and background than some goofy western guy who wants to do some weird shit that they could never understand.
Beer is a model of ours here and a friend of mine, we did several photo shoots together and have hung out quite a bit, we even went shopping all day once for new ATS model clothes. I know she likes Thai boys, because she is 20 and all young ladyboys like Thai boys, despite what they will say; but she would hang out with me and come over and have sex and shit, but she wasn't really into it and who can blame her? Like all young Thai's she would prefer to be with other young Thai's, but would stay with me [or anyone else who pays the bar] because it's a job. I admire her honesty also; I said to her one night "I know you like being with young Thai guys, don't you?" and she says "Yes, you like being with young, slim people so why wouldn't I also?" Most ladyboys would say the same old bullshit right there; "jing jing, I no like those boys.....I like you more mak mak" blaaaaahhhhhh...... hearing the truth is better IMO, and what Beer had the balls to say is what ALL young Thai people are actually thinking; do you really believe they would rather be intimate with Joe from Wisconsin who is 20 years older than them, has hair on his back and in his ears but not on his head, and is 50 pounds past his fighting weight? Why should they....would you?
Ok, so what I am getting at is this..... if you are a young, slim handsome guy in your mid to late 20's, congrats! Because basically you are the only people out there who can get genuine feelings of love and attachment from a young Thai ladyboy, so go out there and knock yourselves out and have a ball. For the rest of us and again this includes myself of course, once you start getting up into your 30's and beyond you have to take this lifestyle for what it is; we get an ego boost from time to time from these young people, they look great to us of course and perform well in bed most of the time, and we enjoy spending part of our days with them.
But love? Sorry, I am not buying it; for the most part that is a one-way street where the western guy falls hard for one of these people {I have seen it literally hundreds of times}, they get as much as they can from the dude and then they are gone. Again, Thai's will stick with the Thai's every time, or else take a better offer from someone else from the west who is maybe younger and slimmer..... if this is something you don't want to admit or hear, sorry for bringing it all up. Yup, sometimes the truth hurts...... but for all you romantics out there, the Truth is this; she probably doesn't like you.
Better you guys than me......I will stick with the short times and not getting burned, it's cheaper and no heart ache later.
OK, first off please understand one thing; all western guys between the ages of about 38 and 68...... it is extremely rare if not impossible for a young Thai teenage ladyboy to have genuine feelings of love and romance for you. Sorry to break the news to you but it's true; they may hang around with us [yes, of course I am imcluding myself in all this because I am in that age group and not foolish enough to think these rules don't apply to me] for money or other various reasons, but for love or because they actually "like" us? Uh-uh...... if a ladyboy is still below 20 years old she is interested in other young Thai people, preferably a handsome and muscular Thai boy, and the majority of their free time is spent doing just that. Check the crowd of young ladyboys in Bali Seafood every night after 1am to see what I am saying here; you think the 30 or 40 Nana Plaza ladyboys who hang there every night are there for the seafood?
Now, as a Thai ladyboy gets into her 20's, I find that a lot of them by this time have been burned more than once by the Thai boys that they so adored just a few years earlier. Or they find them to be lazy drunks who never get off their asses and depend on the ladyboy to bring home the bacon. So by 21, 22 and 23 they may be more interested in falangs than their teenaged sisters, but in reality it's all still just superficial; deep down they still harbor feelings for at least one and maybe several Thai men and they also go out on their free time generally to places where Thai men can be found as well as falangs; they will keep their options open of course but generally they would prefer a responsible Thai man with a good job and who accepts them as a ladyboy than to be with a falang. Again, guys who are above 35 years old, don't take it personally but I still believe that this age group spends time with us western guys for many reasons but for love? very doubtful......... they may "like" us, they may enjoy spending time with us, and they certainly like the money we spend on them, but when it comes right down to it they are with us because they have to be and not because they want to be.
Every single person who reads this board [and been to Thailand] has had this happen to them; ladyboy "girlfriend" or at least what you considered your GF or someone you liked very much at the least gets a phone call or breaks a date and gives some lame excuse. You KNOW she is lying, she knows it, and yet she still tells you she is going to the hospital to see her brother or meeting a friend because she needs to "talk", but in reality they are moving on to a customer with more money or to a Thai guy they like more than us. If you can't admit that, you're probably living in a fantsay world; again, try and remember the key point here; these girls are generally spending time with us falangs because they have to, and if a better offer comes along we are dust; I accepted this long ago and you all should as well.
Around the mid to late 20's ages is where you have the best chance at finding true love and romance with a ladyboy, but being the superficial, self-absorbed and selfish sex-obsessed westerners that we are {lol}, we always want girls who are fresh and young and tight; we see these older girls getting up there in the years and it takes longer to put on the make-up and maybe we see some belly roll or some shit and we go sprinting right down to Obsessions to see what new tight-body just rolled off the bus from Nakhon Whocares, and then the cycle above starts all over again.
However, if you can hang in there and don't mind dating a girl in her mid to late 20's you will probably end up getting someone who is very smart and streetwise, worldly perhaps, been to some foreign countries and can actually carry on a conversation unlike a teenager. BUT, you also get the baggage; perhaps years of working in a bar, 20 years of gender dysfunction messing with their heads, discrimination, maybe self-loathing, etc..... this last one would be especially true for post-ops. And do we really want to deal with all that shit? Again, we typical males head right down to the nearest go-go bar and get a younger and tighter kid and fool ourselves into thinking she really likes us, and get back into the cycle; it never really ends. And I truly believe that even these older girls would rather have a person of their own race, culture and background than some goofy western guy who wants to do some weird shit that they could never understand.
Beer is a model of ours here and a friend of mine, we did several photo shoots together and have hung out quite a bit, we even went shopping all day once for new ATS model clothes. I know she likes Thai boys, because she is 20 and all young ladyboys like Thai boys, despite what they will say; but she would hang out with me and come over and have sex and shit, but she wasn't really into it and who can blame her? Like all young Thai's she would prefer to be with other young Thai's, but would stay with me [or anyone else who pays the bar] because it's a job. I admire her honesty also; I said to her one night "I know you like being with young Thai guys, don't you?" and she says "Yes, you like being with young, slim people so why wouldn't I also?" Most ladyboys would say the same old bullshit right there; "jing jing, I no like those boys.....I like you more mak mak" blaaaaahhhhhh...... hearing the truth is better IMO, and what Beer had the balls to say is what ALL young Thai people are actually thinking; do you really believe they would rather be intimate with Joe from Wisconsin who is 20 years older than them, has hair on his back and in his ears but not on his head, and is 50 pounds past his fighting weight? Why should they....would you?
Ok, so what I am getting at is this..... if you are a young, slim handsome guy in your mid to late 20's, congrats! Because basically you are the only people out there who can get genuine feelings of love and attachment from a young Thai ladyboy, so go out there and knock yourselves out and have a ball. For the rest of us and again this includes myself of course, once you start getting up into your 30's and beyond you have to take this lifestyle for what it is; we get an ego boost from time to time from these young people, they look great to us of course and perform well in bed most of the time, and we enjoy spending part of our days with them.
But love? Sorry, I am not buying it; for the most part that is a one-way street where the western guy falls hard for one of these people {I have seen it literally hundreds of times}, they get as much as they can from the dude and then they are gone. Again, Thai's will stick with the Thai's every time, or else take a better offer from someone else from the west who is maybe younger and slimmer..... if this is something you don't want to admit or hear, sorry for bringing it all up. Yup, sometimes the truth hurts...... but for all you romantics out there, the Truth is this; she probably doesn't like you.
Better you guys than me......I will stick with the short times and not getting burned, it's cheaper and no heart ache later.
All good food for thought. 
I was very jaded from Western women and their shit . I have been visiting LOS since 1978 and i go for a holiday and treat it as such. 
I first sampled LBs in about 1988.I sample the goodies, indulge my self big time and then go home and get back into western mode.
I like lbs because of the sex and great times. I dont go for lbs to find out the mystery of life. I enjoy my time and to me that makes me happy. 
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