Split Personalities

[stogie bear]

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 13 2008,14:50) stogie bear, your girl is very lucky to have found you!

Not really. We've gone our seperate ways now and she's happily married to a lucky chap in Germany!

In the end I didn't deserve her. She was very special.

[Naang Faa]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 13 2008,15:00) For me personally - NO JOB and NO amount of money would allow my dignity to sink to abandoning my 'girlfriend'. I've proven this already by sacrificing everything for the love of a fine ladyboy. And although it only lasted a few years it was worth every day spent in the poor house to do it. (And you knew me and Kui when we were dirt poor.)

Money is everywhere - fine living partners are not. If you are clever you can have both... I wasn't and opted for just the one that I thought was worth more to me. No regrets either.

The idea of asking Kui to bugger off while I lorded it with my family would fill me with more shame than it would for me to introduce her to them.

It's a simple choice - one that I made in Kui's favour without a moment of doubt or any subsequent regret.

What can you say about that!......

I've sat here for 40 mins,and all i can say is........
............what a man!

Theres guys who type the good fight,and guys like you...

Respect and admiration,
Naang Faa,

x

[SwoonTV]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 13 2008,16:31) Not really. We've gone our seperate ways now and she's happily married to a lucky chap in Germany!

In the end I didn't deserve her. She was very special.

well i'm sure someone perfect for you is around the corner.

haha "corner", geddit?

[Guest]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 12 2008,06:20) I would never have insulted Kui by asking her to leave her own house under any circumstances. Job, friends or family... they can all fuck off if the girl I call my girlfriend has to be hidden in the spare room. It's that kind of reprehensible and hypocritical behaviour that sets ladyboys integration into mainsstream society back another generation.

In fact I have even proudly taken Cindy to parties in my snobby neighbourhood and she has always won them over. If she had felt uncomfortable she would have said so and I would have noticed something. Mind you - the women folk weren't as chatty as the drunk old men were!

To sustain any type of relationship with a ladyboy (or with anyone) requires a certain level of commitment and dedication. This requires MORE than simply showing off your trophy to other ladyboy lovers.

All too frequently we see the cowardly face of denial crop up even with so called 'activists' who say one thing and do another.

This is all very easy for you to say when you work in the industry and most of your friends and colleagues have no issue with the fact you might live with or spend time with a ladyboy.

I doubt you would be so cavalier if you worked for a large corporate and your high paying job and even lifestyle was at risk?

[stogie bear]

I owned a computer company in the US... sold it to build a house and buy a ranch  and a business in Mexico... Gave it all up for Kui.

I advertised my sexual preferences via TV doing a documentary for HBO. That's how my family found out about me and my preferences.

My mother hasn't spoken to me in six years. I have lost contact with my children. I have given up a great life and a fortune...

I still have no regrets.

You haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about have you!

   

[Monkey]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 13 2008,11:43) My mother hasn't spoken to me in six years. I have lost contact with my children. I have given up a great life and a fortune...

That sucks big time, but at least you've been true to yourself which is far more than most of us here.

I have nothing but respect for that.

[stogie bear]

And I'd do it again too. If the right ladyboy came along I'd have NO PROBLEMS starting again from scratch without a penny and with no family support.

You see - I actually DO walk the walk! Unlike the pretenders with the big mouths who think they have the answers I actually HAVE been through the low end.

By the way - Kui came along before my job in porno.

[newwriter]

Admirable courage of conviction.

I have damn near 50 years invested in my life and up until now (never say never) I refuse to turn my back on my parents, children, and job - for anything or anybody. I wouldn't lie about it. I just couldn't do it.

I deal with the guilt when it hits and move on.

That you have chosen to do otherwise makes you a more honourable lover but I am not sure I agree with your decision. A lot of other people have been hurt by it clearly. And equally clearly, you are convinced you have made the best decision for you. As I said - admirable. A man of conviction - his own convictions.

Mine sound more cowardly but I'm not sure the decision I have chosen thus far for myself has been any easier for me than the one you chose for yourself.

[Stewart]

By dividing the two seperate quotes with "But further back in this thread you said:" the implication is that they are two items that contradict each other.

FFS!! What is WRONG with you?

If you really want to be pedantic, I said "I agree with...far more" ie some merit in both of them, but on balance I agree with one of them far more

If I had said "you fucking hypocrite" Fred-style, fair enough...I didn't

Now are you going to give me 3 's like Ozzie? I assume 3 is the top score, or has does Ozzie need to do better because he only got 3 out of five?

[Naang Faa]

(newwriter @ Jan. 13 2008,20:05) I have damn near 50 years invested in my life and up until now (never say never) I refuse to turn my back on my parents, children, and job - for anything or anybody. I wouldn't lie about it. I just couldn't do it.

I

That you have chosen to do otherwise makes you a more honourable lover but I am not sure I agree with your decision. have chosen thus far for myself has been any easier for me than the one you chose for yourself.

I get the feeling it wasn't his decision to lose his family..
Naang Faa
x

[stogie bear]

I get the feeling it wasn't his decision to lose his family...

Of course it wasn't. My mother opted out of her relationship with me, not the other way around. I can't control other people and how they react to adversity. It took me by surprise but I moved on.

It's a shame but it's her loss, not mine.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(Stewart @ Jan. 13 2008,20:07) If I had said "you fucking hypocrite" Fred-style, fair enough...I didn't

anyone with a most basic understanding of hypocrisy will be laughing at you

[stogie bear]

He he... Stewart likes to stir a stick. Don't let him wind you up.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 13 2008,19:43) I owned a computer company in the US... sold it to build a house and buy a ranch  and a business in Mexico... Gave it all up for Kui.

I advertised my sexual preferences via TV doing a documentary for HBO. That's how my family found out about me and my preferences.

My mother hasn't spoken to me in six years. I have lost contact with my children. I have given up a great life and a fortune...

I still have no regrets.

You haven't got a fucking clue what you are talking about have you!

   

This is very honourable. Your love and devotion to Kui showed you are a real man.

On a side-note, I also have immense respect for a chap who would go fisticuffs with the doormen at Q-Bar over his girl. Oh I'm sorry, the person I'm thinking of didn't do anything of the sort, he just started a new thread of self-pity in Academia.

[newwriter]

(stogie bear @ Jan. 13 2008,21:35) Of course it wasn't. My mother opted out of her relationship with me, not the other way around. I can't control other people and how they react to adversity. It took me by surprise but I moved on.

It's a shame but it's her loss, not mine.

I wasn't suggesting you did but you must have considered the possibility of that result. If your mum's anything like you it was always possible she'd have a strong opinion all her own and be willing to stick to it regardless of other people's opinions on it.

I wonder if you have an opinion on why you chose to alert your family via an HBO TV show rather than tell them direct.