Split Personalities

[stogie bear]

Your services will be needed in the boardroom soon if they don't win a game soon!

It's a basic human instinct to have friends. And friendship is more rewarding if we can just be ourselves.

I'd go further and say that friendship is worthless unless you can be who you are.

This urge for chums is another one of those quirky human things that I have had trouble with all my life. I've probably missed out on a lifetime of fun and laughs, but to be honest I just like my solitude and aloneness.

I do enjoy nights out with some of the people I have met here and that's another limitation of my life... I see the whole world through a prism of this forum and its' members.

I don't know anyone else and nor do I want to. I see all things in the world as it relates to people I know here.

I don't know if you think that's sad or what, but I'm quite happy to limit my personal encounters to a few honest folk from here. Life away from this board is old movies and paperbacks... The 'real world' is a place I have no interest in at all.

So - I suppose I don't need a 'split personality' as anyone I have any interest in is from here and I have nothing to hide.

[PigDogg]

(stogie bear @ Aug. 18 2007,18:38) I just like my solitude and aloneness.

Around 7 years ago I had lots of friends and a social circle that was mostly single guys and gals going out drinking, eating etc.

Then when I started going to the LOS, the hitting on American women angle got stale and I started enjoying reading and being by myself more and more.

But now after a few years of solitude, I'm getting a tad lonely and I feel like being more sociable but although I'd prefer to talk to my chums about ladyboys, I don't feel like opening a can of worms in my final months  in America.

And the intersection portion of the Venn Diagram is shrinking every year.

Venn Diagram WTF?

Circle A is women I want to fuck.
Circle B is women who will fuck me.
This intersection has shrunk in the USA.
But is huge in the LOS.

[Guest]

Old friends are often permanent and there when you want them or need them most.

New friends come and go and many times are unreliable.

So I would be very reluctant to give up old friends, PigDogg (ie, by opening up too much). And as Kahuna said, you don't know what will come next, so it might be you tire of LBs in the future. There are times when I think I may revert and give up the LB circle altogether. A prominent person who has somewhat done that is Nick of C&D who now stays with a lady. As everyone knows, Nick is no fool, so we could be doing the same in a few months or years. Who knows?

[SwoonTV]

i find it both sad and infuriating. i also think that this topic explains very well why the men here are so touchy on the "gay thing". like many here, i don't really think that being into LBs makes you a "gay man" per se, but i think there is a sad sense of homophobia and internalised shame that is all rather pathetic for a bunch of grown men.

"asking May to leave the house when ppl are coming over" - really?! i mean, really?!

[stogie bear]

I would never have insulted Kui by asking her to leave her own house under any circumstances. Job, friends or family... they can all fuck off if the girl I call my girlfriend has to be hidden in the spare room. It's that kind of reprehensible and hypocritical behaviour that sets ladyboys integration into mainsstream society back another generation.

In fact I have even proudly taken Cindy to parties in my snobby neighbourhood and she has always won them over. If she had felt uncomfortable she would have said so and I would have noticed something. Mind you - the women folk weren't as chatty as the drunk old men were!

To sustain any type of relationship with a ladyboy (or with anyone) requires a certain level of commitment and dedication. This requires MORE than simply showing off your trophy to other ladyboy lovers.

All too frequently we see the cowardly face of denial crop up even with so called 'activists' who say one thing and do another.

[Fred_Nguyen]

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 12 2008,04:07) "asking May to leave the house when ppl are coming over" - really?! i mean, really?!

She was just one of 3000. I'm surprised he could even remember her name.

[mesmer]

My respect for both stogie & swoontv is of this moment immeasurable! I see this kinda of shit all the time here in the Boston €“ guys who want to hide their relationship/attraction for transgendered women.
You only live once as far as I can see, what profit is there in living as a coward

BTW Soontv you can spooge in my face anytime

[SwoonTV]

(mesmer @ Jan. 12 2008,10:01) BTW Soontv you can spooge in my face anytime

haha i'll send u a little jar, u can smudge it over your face if u like.

[Stewart]

All too frequently we see the cowardly face of denial crop up even with so called 'activists' who say one thing and do another.

But further back in this thread you said:

In Thailand if you are working here you should divorce your work and your personal life completely.
Thais judge entirely on appearances and you'd be a fool to let them know anything about your life outside the office even if you were shacked up with a female your own age.
Certainly if you were to take a position of authority then this applies even more so.

I agree with your original post far more, and it also is strongly linked to what you have to lose. It is FAR easier for you to be open because you work 'in the space'.

For many people, whether they like it or not, family and work colleagues would freak, and there would be a severe danger of losing a career and high-paying salary - large international companies are NOT going to look kindly on their senior managers being involved with lb's.

As for Fred's comment....about what I would expect

[stogie bear]

Two quotes taken from seperate posts... How clever!

Still applies. You can live a secretive double life of bliss. Many do. But those people don't come out as 'psuedo-crusaders' pretending to fight the good fight while protecting their IDs from their families and bosses.

Most people can live a professional life without chucking their ladyboy 'girlfriends' out on the street while they entertain their peers. Most people can manage a vacation with their family and have the bollocks to introduce their chosen companions.

For me personally - NO JOB and NO amount of money would allow my dignity to sink to abandoning my 'girlfriend'. I've proven this already by sacrificing everything for the love of a fine ladyboy. And although it only lasted a few years it was worth every day spent in the poor house to do it. (And you knew me and Kui when we were dirt poor.)

Money is everywhere - fine living partners are not. If you are clever you can have both... I wasn't and opted for just the one that I thought was worth more to me. No regrets either.

The idea of asking Kui to bugger off while I lorded it with my family would fill me with more shame than it would for me to introduce her to them.

It's a simple choice - one that I made in Kui's favour without a moment of doubt or any subsequent regret.

[SwoonTV]

(Stewart @ Jan. 13 2008,14:40) large international companies are NOT going to look kindly on their senior managers being involved with lb's.

haha i think this is funny, i know i shouldn't laugh but it's funny (to me).

[Stewart]

(SwoonTV @ Jan. 13 2008,15:15)

(Stewart @ Jan. 13 2008,14:40) large international companies are NOT going to look kindly on their senior managers being involved with lb's.

haha i think this is funny, i know i shouldn't laugh but it's funny (to me).

Unfortunately, it is true in most cases. Most large corporations are public companies, which tends to make them behave in a 'middle of the road' sort of way. "Leading edge" lifestyles of their senior managers would make them very uncomfortable

[Stewart]

Two quotes taken from seperate posts... How clever!

It wasn't meant to be clever - it was meant to highlight and discuss the issue. I simply stated that I agreed more with one of your posts and not the other.

[stogie bear]

(Stewart @ Jan. 13 2008,14:28)

Two quotes taken from seperate posts... How clever!

It wasn't meant to be clever - it was meant to highlight and discuss the issue. I simply stated that I agreed more with one of your posts and not the other.

By dividing the two seperate quotes with "But further back in this thread you said:" the implication is that they are two items that contradict each other.

Some people can live a life of professional secrecy and shy away from their families about their chosen lifestyles. Good luck to them - many people have very different priorities than mine. Their little hobby on the side is really just that and no longer a 'lifestyle' if it is buried behind a wall of shame or professional expediency.

[SwoonTV]

stogie bear, your girl is very lucky to have found you!