How do LBs view their male genitalia?

[stogie bear]

I spent countless hours trying to get you back on line here and the best you can do is that 5 second retort!

[jadeite]

I can't tell you how many times a girl has introduced me to or pointed out to me, a feminine gay male and referred to them as a ladyboy...And they have no idea what the term femboy means...They are what they think they are

That is right. A ladyboy is a state of mind, not a physical appearance. For instance, some ladyboys are prohibited by their family from dressing like a girl, talking like a girl, or taking hormones. While the physical side is suppressed and they look just like a regular guy, it does not change the fact they feel they are a ladyboy and their peers will still respect them as such.

There is no such thing as a femboy to them. I cringe at the term as to what it implies, but that word is only for us to characterize a physical appearance all of them go through that many guys (including myself) find attractive.

Rest assured, there are Thai ladyboys that are ashamed / embarassed of having the extra equipment. I can't tell you how many brand new ones in the bar tape their package back in the bar and in the bedroom to look more lady like. This goes away quickly as they learn the typical punter likes them because of their cock. Looking at online sites like this, you get a very distorted view of them. Deep down, they want you to love them for the girl part rather than their cock. But if you are paying them, they will do whatever you want.

[Ladyboy_Loser!]

I am just going to give you my own personal experience. She did not like her cock, she would hide it whenever we made love. She did not like to have it sucked and she made it very clear from the beginning that she wanted to have the SRS so that she would be a real lady, in her words. No matter what type of Bikini I would buy for her, no matter how good it covered her cock she always felt that it somehow showed and she did not like that. She was more content to swim in shorts and a t-shirt no matter what type of Hotel we stayed in. When she dressed to go out she always wore very tight panties and made sure to stuff her cock under her groin area, I always thought that had to cause a serious case of blue balls. I had no problem with any of this, it was her body and I cared more about her as a person than I did her cock. Anyhow, I had been a serious whore mongering butterfly and there was nothing new she was going to provide me with. Since her surgery, wow, her loving making has been taken to new heights. She and I shag like rabbits, she loves to show off her new "pussy" and she is a lot more open to trying different positions. Now she loves to put on a bikini and show off her body whenever we take a holiday to the beach.

[jimslim]

I've yet to come across a ladyboy who was repulsed by their cock , in fact quite a few have been a little too keen to use theirs  

Maybe I've been hanging out with the wrong sorts  

[thegame925]

With the greatest respect to Ms Wombatos I lived with a non P4P pre-op Malay LB for nearly 10 years and met dozens of her friends, of many nationalities, some of whom were in the Escort business and some of whom had €œregular€ jobs of a traditional nature €“ ranging from Beauty Consultants to Lawyers to Nurses, to Doctors to Journalists etc. Some were pre-op, some were post op.

Some of the pre-ops intended to go for the €œfinal snip€ others (including my partner) wanted to keep the equipment because they loved sex.

My partner was 100% passive, she regarded her penis as her clitoris €“ she had friends who were versatile.

My second non P4P partner with whom I was with for just under 4 years enjoyed her penis, albeit totally passive, but her long-term goal was to be post-op, which she did a few years after we parted (and is now happily married and in the process of adopting a mixed race child).

Over the years I have enjoyed sexual intimacy with P4P transsexuals and with transsexuals working in regular jobs. The majority were pre-ops, but there were many post-ops too.

Some of these encounters were one night stands and some were people I have seen on a regular basis over the years.

I talk to my €œdates€, we go out to dinner and to movies and the theatre €“ I listen to their stories, their hopes, their fears, their ambitions, their problems, etc.

No two people are alike €“ there are many post-ops who regret having that cut because the sex just is not that which it used to be.

There are many post-ops who will admit that their orgasm is in their mind now, but they are happy they had the operation and there are some post-ops where the operation has been more successful for them than they ever dared hope.

I do accept that in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and the Philippines (and India to a lesser extent) there are LBs who are really feminine gays €“ that it is the culture.

I have been with Asian LBs (from nearly all the countries in Asia); Caucasian LBs; Black LBs; Hispanic LBs €“ Apart from Eskimo€™s and Aborigines, I can€™t think of an LB from an ethnic background that I have not been with.

Of the (many) hundreds of LBs that I have had sexual relations with over the years I can only recall four who were adamant that they did not want their penis touched in any way.

Maybe I€™ve been lucky enough to meet the wrong sort of LB.

[sev7en]

(wombatos @ Jun. 23 2008,13:56) A genuine transsexual has the greatest hatred for their own male genitalia and the only thing she ever thinks about is to get rid of it.

I think this is more true than we like to think it is.
Maybe not hatred, but getting rid of it is.

In the p4p, keeping the cock is an income though.
But if they didn´t have to sell cock and arse they would get rid of it if they could afford.
Not everyone but for sure most of them.

And theres a huge different between a feminine asian lb and a butch agressive brasilian shemale.

[manarak]

I have been with an in TS for over ten years now - I definitely prefer the "shemale" type of TS, who do not hate their cock and who like to top & bottom, but who also fully play the feminine part of dressing sexy and seduction.
It is a rare mix.
I know only 4 of those, I appreciate very much the time I can spend with them.

Of course I also got to know some "genuine transsexuals".
What to say...
Yes, they often hate everything about them that is male. A lot of them have psychological problems and strong feelings. They are controlled by their feelings, in the same way as much women are.
Mostly, I don't get along well with them. A lot are as bitchy and illogical as the crazy girls are.

I have far better understanding with "genuine shemales".

Frankly, I am not attracted by a person that in principle is a woman's mind in a man's body where the interesting part cannot come into play. I also never go with bottom only LBs.


I would be glad if the BM could tell me which girls at Guess or Nana would fit the shemale category.

[jimslim]

(thegame925 @ Jun. 24 2008,13:24) No two people are alike

Maybe I€™ve been lucky enough to meet the wrong sort of LB.

Great post , makes a lot of sense

[Guest]

It's pretty clear you are not a transsexual.

You think no penis = transsexual.

You are living in an American or Western culture where the medical system, society and laws do that equation, and you are sucked in to believing it. Cutting a few inches of skin off your body doesn't suddenly make you female, nor does being embarassed about it.

The vast majority of LBs in the world DO NOT cut off their penis nor dislike it, and are decidedly more feminine than the vast majoriy of females on this planet. That is because they vew it as a sexual organ and not something that determines their gender, aside from the fact it is the most unsuccessful and most expensive operation in the feminization process. There are of course LBs who completely agree with you, but the point is that agreement or disagreement is irrelevant.

A true TS, for which there are decidedly more in this country than yours, view their body as disjoint from their gender, whereas you seem to equate the two, which is exactly what gender prejudice people do.

I think you are the one with serious mental confusion, and maybe if you liked your dick, and your feminine gender at the same tie, you would be happier in life, and be less judgemental than you most certainly are.

Saying the 99% of Thai LBs in Thailand who have and enjoy their penis, are 'faux' TS, is insulting to the extreme.

[sev7en]

(TheCommenter @ Jun. 27 2008,03:43) The vast majority of LBs in the world DO NOT cut off their penis nor dislike it.

Hello, commander , congrats to you first post.

May i ask how you know this? Do we now have an expert starting to post here?

[Naang Faa]

I think there is a mythical mantra for "real"transexuals
"i hate it,cut it off! blah de blah, "felt this way ever since i was four" blah de blah blah!
Why? Do we need to justify ourselves and our actions? Do we need to try to explain the inexplicable? I am also TS and i haven't a clue why,and to be honest i'm past caring about
the why's and whatnots of what make me and my friends tick..
Here is my take on it,take it or leave it...
Every young person with TS feelings doesn't grow up wanting to be half one half the other,
but transitioning is all about personal comfort,only in the western cultures there seems to be a
ridgid rule "you are a man,you are a woman" we're not really open to diversity (first time i went home i was pre-op but everyone presumed i was post because we just don't think that way)..
Post-Op-Pre-Op,i mean to say Pre-Op is a western term,like you are due to have surgery,why can't we be open enough to have Non-Ops?
You can reach a point were you are comfortable with yourself,at ease with anal sex (my friends and i find that a little "ikky") but,if you find it OK then why go and do some riskey surgery in some side soi butchers? I am sure every young ladyboy has a young friend too eagre to under go surgery and having their lives ruined by these so called "surgeons"! If the west was less ridgid in
sexuality would being a she-male be more acceptable? If SRS was guaranteed anatomically correct
and a guarantee of sensation and orgasm afterwards,would more Thai go for it if they had the money? It's all if's and maybe's!...
I am post-op,i have a child,i had a girlfriend for years i had no problems using my penis,and i am a diagnosed TS!
It is,as i said,all about personal comfort,how we feel about ourselves and not how others want us to be!
We stop by Dr Suporns occtionally when i go to Pattaya and i see the many western TS sitting
there drinking tea holding the cup with their thumb and index finger like Lady Windborne,and think to myself are these just acting out a role? To me this looks uncomfortable,forced and against
nature.Are. these diagnosed TS the wests equivalent of the screaming queen ladyboys? maybe,maybe not..
. I am my own personal happiness,now i feel confident and comfortable in my own skin!.
If a young girl can find that before they feel the urge to undergo drastic surgery then fantastic,good for them..but don't go thinking we are better or more femme. When i go the Guess bar,where i know they are all pre-op i don't feel more of a woman than the girls there.
Wombatos,try sitting 3 feet away from Mint,Neung,Jay,Viv or Cindy and tell yourself your more
woman or more feminine minded than them..
Surgery,sadly,does not make us women,but it can help make us the best person we can be,
If your expecting more than that you're heading for a disappointment..
All i feel is unified,i just become Naang Faa
Right,wheres me T-shirt?
x

[seanbeag7]

jesus that has to be post of the month.......  


Get this girl a Guess Bar t-shirt

[Looker]

Wonderful post Naaaaaaaang, You rock!!!
Now please, change the font colour

[Naang Faa]

Gee,thanks guys
(is that a better colour Looker?)
x

[Guest]

fair play nf...good post..

you find anal ikky whats that all about?